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Originally Posted by dlphg9
(Post 17616793)
You can't do all of this build up all season for absolutely no payoff. There were some good parts, but God damn the Lannister scenes were completely ****ing stupid. The Alicent coming to talk to Rhaenyra stuff was ****ing stupid. Those 2 things took up way too much time and were just stupid.
Is Halaena hanging out with the 3 eyed Raven? She can see all this shit just like Bran was able to, but didn't decide to save her kid?
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It depends on what you define as "payoff." If they were following a traditional 10-episode arc, episode 9 would be the one where all the things happen, and episode 10 would be a little action and a lot of set-up. In an 8-episode season, that formula changes, I guess.
But I thought there was a good deal of character-driven payoff in this one, even if there was not a big dragon showdown (it would have required a major deviation from the books to have anything like that happening this episode).
The Lannister scenes set up something important, though - which is indicative of why the Triarchy agreed to the proposal. They could have shortened it, sure, but they're again emphasizing SHOWING us things as they happen rather than TELLING us after the fact.
If Lannister had shown up with that fleet without all those scenes, would it have worked? Sure, it would have. But people also could have - and would have - complained about that.
Alicent came to Rhaenyra in an attempt to prevent thousands of people - including herself and her daughter - from getting nuked by the dragons. This is a deviation from the books, possibly, but it does continue the journey with that character - showing her regrets and attempts to mitigate the bad effects of some of her mistaken choices.
They are trying really hard to portray both Alicent and Rhaenyra as fully developed characters, neither all good nor all bad but both generally trying to do the right thing. I'm here for it.
Re: Halaena ... It is clear the Targaryens have some magic in their blood (go figure!) and some can occasionally see the future. It's a different gift than that of the First Men we've seen (the Reeds, the Starks), or at least the first example of that gift existing outside the First Men. We've seen some subtle hints of Halaena "seeing" things but again, prophecy is a fickle thing and no vision tends to flow entirely true. They're showing us reason to believe in "Aegon's Dream" and also setting up some fun and tragic things with Rhaegar Targaryen, should the timeline of Robert's Rebellion ever be explored.