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TribalElder 07-09-2014 01:42 PM

Google Fiber will have the SEC network. Now that they are loose in OP I imagine the only thing keeping people from making the switch away from time warner would be the jayhawk network

http://broadcastingcable.com/news/pr...network/130804

KChiefs1 07-09-2014 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10737940)
Then stop comparing cable-only numbers for Cox to total customer base for RCN. But that would crush your troll attempts.

Anyway, keep trolling on as the SEC Network is already around 30 million subscribers and will keep rolling upwards as the launch date approaches.

BTW, at $1.30/month, the current subscriber base is good for between $450-475 million a year in subscriber fees alone.

Can't wait until Directv jumps onboard.

Discuss Thrower 07-09-2014 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 10739115)
Can't wait until Directv jumps onboard.

The whole AT&T merger thing is probably throwing that through a loop.

Prison Bitch 07-10-2014 07:03 AM

I guess we have to debate cable TV contracts in lieu of Mizzery ever accomplishing anything in sports.

frankotank 07-10-2014 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10735962)

this is my guy right here.
I too scored 4 touchdowns in one game. :D
you go Al.

Bambi 07-10-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 10739565)
this is my guy right here.
I too scored 4 touchdowns in one game. :D
you go Al.

Al Bundy is awesome

Bambi 07-10-2014 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10739267)
I guess we have to debate cable TV contracts in lieu of Mizzery ever accomplishing anything in sports.

It's been a slow offseason in "re-alignment"

frankotank 07-10-2014 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10739619)
Al Bundy is awesome

I still hook up from time to time with my high school guys. beers flow and once the football talk starts......I'll hook my thumbs in my pants like Al does.....they are immediately like.......we know! we know! you scored 4 touchdowns in one game....now shut the **** up. ROFL

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blake5676 07-10-2014 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10739267)
I guess we have to debate cable TV contracts in lieu of Mizzery ever accomplishing anything in sports.

No one on this side of the aisle brags about TV contracts or even really brings it up. People only discuss it bc you and the doe constantly talk about how it's a shitty network that no one wants and is failing miserably.

It takes all of 5 seconds to refute that shit, which is pretty much the only thing I see Mizzou fans doing.

Prison Bitch 07-10-2014 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 10739647)
It takes all of 5 seconds to refute that shit

It takes even less time to notice that I'm not bashing the SEC network nor do I even care about it. So I'm not sure why you're accusing me of doing so.

KChiefs1 07-14-2014 02:21 PM

Can't figure out who was dumber, West Virginia or the Big 12, for this move:

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www.charlestondailymail.com
WVU FOOTBALL: As season tickets decline, athletic department adapts to boost sales

By Mike Casazza, WVU Beat Writer
MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — West Virginia University football season ticket sales are as low as they’ve been in nine years, but the Mountaineers are working with, as opposed to against, a supposed obstacle to boost future sales.

As of Wednesday, WVU had sold 28,983 season tickets, the lowest figure at this point since the Mountaineers were at roughly 24,400 in the 2005 season that ended with a Sugar Bowl victory over Georgia. WVU was a little above 33,000 at this time last year.

“One thing it shows is, yes, the numbers are down. There’s no denying that,” said Matt Wells, WVU’s director of sports marketing. “But overall, I think even with it being a down year, our season-ticket base is still stronger than it was 10 years ago.”

The Mountaineers are also a reasonable option on the secondary ticket market, where fans can buy tickets without involving WVU.

“It’s definitely one of the areas where we know there’s competition,” Wells said.

VividSeats.com, an online ticket marketplace, published a report last week showing WVU to have the 20th-most expensive median ticket price in the country ($95) and the fifth-highest in the Big 12. Of the top 25 schools, WVU was No. 24 in average ticket price ($112). VividSeats.com favors the median price because expensive seats can skew the average price whereas the median provides a number in the middle.

The Mountaineers also play only one of VividSeats.com’s 25 most-expensive games this season. The season-opening Chick-fil-a Kickoff Game’s median price is No. 14 in median ($255) and average price ($293) and No. 18 in “get in” price, which is the lowest ticket available to get into the game ($122).

“It’s interesting information,” Wells said. “I know this was just a snapshot, but if you go back and look at 2012, I know based on conversations and information we received from (online ticket marketplace) StubHub, we had several games that would have been listed (in the top 25).

The Mountaineers played host to the same Big 12 opponents that season, but were also a team held in much higher regard following the Orange Bowl blowout against Clemson.

“Pricing is always something we consider,” Wells said. “One of the factors for why we haven’t raised ticket prices the last three seasons is we’re always cognizant of pricing ourselves out of the market.”

The secondary market opens up that possibility, especially in an era where fans have myriad diversions and many have grown to prefer the living room experience. Even Wells admits “we probably can’t compete” with the secondary marketplaces when it comes to fans buying season tickets and going online to sell the tickets to games they won’t attend or when fans avoid season tickets and simply go online to buy tickets to home games they will attend.

The secondary market is also big enough and popular enough now to provide options beyond season tickets. For the six home games, VividSeats.com shows WVU’s get in prices range from $29-$100, while the average price ranges from $71-$187 and the median price ranges from $64-$172.

Home games for one person would cost $311 at the get in price, $670 at the average price and $615 at the median price.

Season tickets through WVU are $1,100 in Touchdown Terrace and $365 in six seating zones around the stadium. Four of those zones require donations of $125, $250, $425 or $500 to the Mountaineer Athletic Club.

Wells said he doesn’t believe the secondary market is that detrimental to season ticket figures, though.

“I feel like the majority of fans who meet that criteria are truly not good targets for us to be season ticket holders,” he said. “I think there are other factors you can point to that impact season ticket sales being down.”

Still, Wells said there are occasions when WVU’s single-game sales are affected by the secondary market. A ticket holder could, for example, sell seats online to the Towson game — or, more severely, a bowl game — for less money or with a better seat than what WVU could offer.

WVU has found a way to benefit from that through a partnership with StubHub.

“The secondary market is not going anywhere,” Wells said. “We could either stick our heads in the sand and act like it doesn’t exist or partner with them and integrate our system.”

The Mountaineers and StubHub are in the second year of a three-year contract that features StubHub marketing and sponsorship, but also a demographic-sharing effort to help the school. Wells said StubHub provides WVU buyer information that the athletic department uses to stimulate future purchases through the university.

Wells called those “warm leads” to find customers and hundreds or maybe thousands of new patrons in the future.

“Previously, we were blind to the buyer,” Wells said. “We knew we had tickets out there on StubHub and if we wanted to, we could go there and look up the section, row and seat and identify the seller, but we had no clue who was buying. Now we have that ability. We can target those buyers with marketing messages, with us making them aware of season tickets being on sale, of single-game tickets being on sale, of mini-packages being on sale, of specific promotions, all in an effort to turn that buyer into our customer.”

Contact sportswriter Mike Casazza at mikec@dailymailwv.com or 304-319-1142.

His blog is at blogs.charlestondailymail.com/wvu. Follow him on Twitter at @mikecasazza.

KChiefs1 07-14-2014 02:41 PM

College Football Mag's are out & here is a story from Athlon:

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Athlon Sports
College Football Realignment Winners and Losers for 2014
By Steven Lassan

No surprise: The SEC is a big winner.

A rocky period in college football has recently passed. Conference realignment seemingly dominated the headlines since 2011, forcing changes in membership for every league.

The Big East and WAC are no more in football, and the SEC, ACC and Big Ten have all expanded to 14 teams.

BYU decided to go Independent in football, while Notre Dame joined the ACC as a partial member.

Those are just a few of the changes that have taken place over the last few years.

What has the last few seasons in college football brought in realignment and what is the impact for the future? Let’s take a look at the changes, impact and grades for each of the Power 5 leagues in realignment over the last few years.

Grading College Football’s Conferences in Realignment

ACC
The Changes: The ACC added Louisville (2014), Syracuse and Pittsburgh (2013). Maryland left for the Big Ten (2014). Notre Dame joined as a member in all sports but football and hockey.

The Impact: Maryland was a founding member of the ACC, and the decision to leave for the Big Ten caught some off guard. However, Louisville is a solid all-around addition to the conference and ranks higher on Athlon’s program ranking (No. 29 for Cardinals, No. 40 for Terrapins). Syracuse and Pittsburgh help the ACC increase its footprint in the Northeast.

As a 14-team league, along with the Notre Dame affiliation, the ACC has stabilized after a period of uncertainty. The conference also has a solid bowl setup, including an agreement with the Orange Bowl. Having a period of 10-15 years without any changes would help the conference continue to develop its identity. The divisional alignment has been a source of debate in recent years, and there could be changes to the Atlantic-Coastal setup.

What’s Next: Will the ACC stay as a 14-team league? Unless there is a major shift again in conferences, the ACC seems unlikely to expand. Of course, if the ACC wanted to expand, Notre Dame would be its first call to become a full-time member. UConn was mentioned with Louisville as a possible replacement for Maryland, and if the ACC wanted to expand to 16, the Huskies would likely be in the mix again.

Grade: B. Losing a founding member was a surprise, but the ACC added three solid programs in Louisville, Syracuse and Pittsburgh. Most importantly, the rumors about Florida State and Clemson possibly leaving the conference never came to fruition.

Related Content: History of ACC Realignment

Big Ten
The Changes: The Big Ten hasn’t seen many changes in its conference history. Penn State officially joined the league for football in 1993, but prior to that, the last addition to the conference was Michigan State in 1950. However, there have been three changes to the league's membership in the last four years. Nebraska joined in 2011, and Maryland and Rutgers will debut in the Big Ten in 2014.

The Impact: The reaction to the Big Ten’s additions were mixed. Nebraska – a top 25 program – was a huge positive for the conference on the gridiron. Maryland and Rutgers? Not so much excitement among college football fans. Since 2000, the Terrapins are 93-80, and the Scarlet Knights are 86-86. While both programs have upside, neither is expected to make a huge impact in terms of winning a national championship on a consistent basis. Instead, the additions of Rutgers and Maryland are a key component for the Big Ten’s Northeast/East Coast expansion. Even though success on the field matters, realignment isn’t necessarily about wins and losses. Media markets and expanding the footprint can be just as valuable for a conference.

What’s Next: Much like the ACC, the next question for the Big Ten is to stay at 14 or expand to 16? If a 16-team set up is in the Big Ten’s future, North Carolina, Georgia Tech and Virginia have been mentioned as possible candidates.

Grade: B. Again, not everything in conference realignment makes sense in terms of wins and losses. Adding Rutgers and Maryland adds two valuable media markets, along with a key recruiting area. Nebraska had one of the top dynasties of the Associated Press poll era and can be a consistent contender for the Big Ten title. Also, the additions of Rutgers and Maryland helped to align the Big Ten into an easier-to-remember East/West format.

Related Content: History of Big Ten Realignment

Big 12
The Changes: The Big 12 has been reduced from 12 teams to 10. In 2011, Nebraska left for the Big Ten and Colorado departed for the Pac-12. Missouri and Texas A&M departed for the SEC in 2012. TCU and West Virginia joined the Big 12 to bolster the league’s lineup to 10 teams.

The Impact: With Nebraska, Texas A&M and Missouri departing, the Big 12 has lost three top-30 programs. West Virginia and TCU are solid additions, but the conference no longer has some outstanding rivalry games between Texas A&M-Texas, Baylor-Texas A&M, Nebraska-Oklahoma and Missouri-Kansas. Not having a conference title game could hurt the Big 12 in the future, especially if that factors into the playoff committee’s criteria.
What’s Next: Expect the debate about the Big 12 and a 10- or 12-team set up to continue. The conference continues to insist it's content with a 10-team setup, but realignment rumors will never go away – at least from the fans. If the Big 12 does decide to expand in the future, it’s all about adding value. So which programs could do that? BYU and UCF? South Florida? Cincinnati? Perhaps the Big 12 would make a run at teams like Florida State and Clemson (igniting old message board rumors again). Adding East Coast teams to bridge the gap from West Virginia to the rest of the conference would seem to be a top priority – if the Big 12 expands.

Grade: C. The Big 12 has two things going for it. The conference seems to be stable – for now – and Oklahoma and Texas are still in the conference. Losing Texas A&M, Missouri and Nebraska was a setback, but West Virginia and TCU are good additions, especially after both programs have time to adjust to their new conference. The Big 12 probably isn’t as powerful as it once was. However, as long as Oklahoma and Texas are top-20 teams on a consistent basis, the conference should be in good shape.

Related Content: West Virginia Searches for Answers After Rocky Start in Big 12

Pac-12
The Changes: The Pac-12 didn’t lose a member and added Colorado and Utah to become a 12-team league in 2011.

The Impact: The Pac-12 is one of the biggest winners in college football over the last five years. Colorado and Utah haven’t experienced a ton of success so far, but the rest of the conference is on the rise. Thanks to an improved television deal, improved revenue and better facilities, the Pac-12 is now the No. 2 conference in college football. Expect Colorado and Utah to improve over the next few years, adding to what is one of the deepest conferences in the nation.

What’s Next: Further realignment seems unlikely, largely because there are few candidates that could join the conference. Remember the Pac-16 proposal that included Texas and Oklahoma? Maybe that’s a possibility in the future. However, the Pac-12 is stable and clearly entrenched as one of the premier conferences.

Grade: B+. We could easily upgrade this to an A. The Pac-12 has moved up the ladder in conference hierarchy, and Utah and Colorado will improve over time. Not much has gone wrong for the conference over the last few seasons.

SEC
The Changes: The SEC made its first changes in membership since 1991 by adding Missouri and Texas A&M in 2012. The league did not lose any members.

The Impact: The addition of the Aggies and Tigers gave the SEC two valuable media markets in Missouri (St. Louis/Kansas City) and Texas (Houston). And both programs also have experienced plenty of success over the last two years. Texas A&M is 20-6 since joining the SEC and had a Heisman winner in Johnny Manziel, while Missouri claimed the East Division title in 2013.

What’s Next: Just like the ACC, Big Ten and Pac-12, the only question surrounding the SEC in the future is whether or not the conference will expand to 16 teams. If the SEC does expand to 16 teams, there has been plenty of discussion that teams in Virginia and North Carolina are the next targets.

Grade: A+. The SEC was the No. 1 conference in the nation prior to realignment and solidified its place at the top with the addition of Texas A&M and Missouri. The conference is deeper and has expanded its footprint into Texas – one of the nation’s most fertile recruiting areas.


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KChiefs1 07-14-2014 02:53 PM

More:

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Biggest winner in the realignment shuffle? I’ll take the ACC, or rather, the Louisville Cardinals. Louisville may have “lost” it’s match with West Virginia for Big 12 membership, but now the Cards’ powerhouse football and basketball teams (women’s hoops, too) head for the ACC along with a baseball team that reached the College World Series this year. Big East “basketball schools” also more than doubled their TV intake from the old Big East set up…


Biggest loser? Has to be the Mountaineers, who may have won the battle with Louisville, but they’re losing the $$$ war overall. WVU’s closest competition comes from Iowa State, 870 miles from Morgantown, and already the mountain moaning has reverberated throughout the Big 12. And rivalries? With whom does WVU relate? Stupid is as stupid does…


The Power Five conferences (ACC, Big 10, Big 12, SEC, Pac-12) shouldn’t expect any more tremors for a while, as all are locked into long-term TV deals. While no one knows if the seismic shifts that have occurred over the past decade will ever happen again, when the current TV deals come up for renewal or extension, there will be rumbling again. It’s inevitable. Over the past 25 years, more than 60% of the current FBS schools (128 major football schools) have changed leagues…


Although, in just a couple of months, we’re all liable to hear a bit more rumbling from the Power Five membership as a result of changes in the way they’ll look after themselves through the NCAA. Stay tuned…

Bambi 07-14-2014 08:37 PM

ouch…

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blake5676 07-14-2014 08:44 PM

Dude is ridiculous. Saw a Vine of some crazy behind the back no look reverse jam he did in warmups...looked effortless.

WhawhaWhat 07-14-2014 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10746976)
ouch…

This one is more impressive. Blocking the shit out of Nerlens Noel.

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Prison Bitch 07-14-2014 09:00 PM

It says a lot about the SEC when Mizzou and Texas A&M vastly improve that conference.

Bambi 07-14-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10747023)
This one is more impressive. Blocking the shit out of Nerlens Noel.

I figured Wiggins had made enough posters out of the Kentucky star in one night. ;)

Bambi 07-14-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10747031)
It says a lot about the SEC when Mizzou and Texas A&M vastly improve that conference.

One of the poorest articles I've read in some time. Has there been a college sports publication that's been steamrolled by the competition more than Athlon has in the last 4-5 years?

TribalElder 07-14-2014 09:09 PM

disregard football

bring up basketball

Bambi 07-14-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10747058)
disregard football

bring up basketball

please, post some professional mizzou highlites. I'm sure everyone's eager to see what Kim English is up to in Siberia.

Bowser 07-14-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747077)
please, post some professional mizzou highlites. I'm sure everyone's eager to see what Kim English is up to in Siberia.

Tell us how Chalmers is doing these days.

Bambi 07-14-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10747079)
Tell us how Chalmers is doing these days.

He just resigned with the team he's won two championships with.

Maybe you want to rethink that one?

Bowser 07-14-2014 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747094)
He just resigned with the team he's won two championships with.

Maybe you want to rethink that one?

Surprised they took him back after the enormous amount of shit he deposited in his shorts against the Spurs.

Now that LBJ is no more, Chalmers is going to steal money for a few years and fade away. Guess there's worse places than South Beach to pull a disappearing act.

Prison Bitch 07-14-2014 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747094)
He just resigned with the team he's won two championships with.

Maybe you want to rethink that one?

Looking at his player profile (I found out his name is actually Almario), he's got 3,795 points. So he'll pass Jon Sundvold in career points this year. Sundvold is #5 all time in Mizzery NBA scorers:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...llege=missouri


Almario has also pulled in $14.8m before this deal. So $22.5m with the extension. That'll move him past Kleiza (18m) into 2nd place behind Keyon Dooling at $30m. Don't know if he'll catch Dooling.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...doolike01.html

Prison Bitch 07-14-2014 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10747099)
Surprised they took him back after the enormous amount of shit he deposited in his shorts against the Spurs.

Now that LBJ is no more, Chalmers is going to steal money for a few years and fade away. Guess there's worse places than South Beach to pull a disappearing act.

Mario is over 25 win shares now, which puts him just ahead of Larry Drew (24) and Keyon (18). He's got an outside shot this year to surpass Peeler and Stipanovich at 30 to become the most valuable NBA player ever in the group MU + Mario.

TribalElder 07-14-2014 09:53 PM

Basketball season is over

Bowser 07-14-2014 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10747170)
Mario is over 25 win shares now, which puts him just ahead of Larry Drew (24) and Keyon (18). He's got an outside shot this year to surpass Peeler and Stipanovich at 30 to become the most valuable NBA player ever in the group MU + Mario.

Amazing. no1curr

KChiefs1 07-14-2014 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10747058)
disregard football

bring up basketball

Isn't there some sorta basketball thread to put that in? This is a conference realignment thread right?

KChiefs1 07-14-2014 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10747185)
Basketball season is over


It's a secondary sport in conference realignment.

KChiefs1 07-14-2014 11:12 PM

Tv rating for conference team.

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Conference and team rankings based on the final ratings for the 2013 College Football Regular Season, inclusive of conference championship games, are presented below.

The SEC is the highest rated conference with 12 teams in the Top 25, including 6 teams in the Top 10.

Ratings include only games on ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC, ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, and FOX Sports 1. Data for other networks are unavailable (e.g., Big Ten Network, Pac-12 Network, Longhorn Network), and this boosts averages for teams playing on those networks since ratings are generally low (e.g., Michigan on the Big 10 Network and Texas on the Longhorn Network).

Some teams benefit from having a low number of rated games since only their most attractive matchups are picked up by top TV stations (e.g., Northwestern ranked #20 with only 5 rated games due to opponents like Ohio State driving ratings).

Individual game data was collected from Sports Media Watch. Only teams with 4 or more rated games are included in the list.

Conference TV Ratings

Rank Conference Avg Viewers Avg Rating # of Rated Gms
1 SEC 3,805,794 2.34 120
2 Big 10 2,920,815 1.84 82
3 ACC 1,961,674 1.25 88
4 Pac 12 1,759,673 1.11 76
5 Big 12 1,625,221 1.01 92
6 MWC 1,010,406 0.65 49
7 AAC 971,983 0.65 60
8 MAC 792,583 0.50 36
9 C-USA 780,254 0.50 42
10 Sun Belt 603,694 0.42 18


Top College Football Teams by TV Ratings

Rank Team Avg Viewers Avg Rating # of Rated Gms
1 Alabama 6,465,000 3.9 10
2 Texas A&M 5,263,900 3.3 10
3 Michigan 5,257,381 3.3 7
4 Ohio State 5,240,455 3.2 11
5 Auburn 5,216,500 3.2 10
6 Georgia 4,832,300 3.0 10
7 LSU 4,531,818 2.7 11
8 Missouri 3,991,500 2.4 8
9 Notre Dame 3,906,364 2.5 11
10 Michigan State 3,769,111 2.4 9
11 South Carolina 3,499,875 2.2 8
12 Florida 3,369,583 2.1 8
13 Nebraska 3,240,833 2.1 6
14 Florida State 3,232,417 2.0 12
15 Tennessee 3,082,630 2.0 9
16 Oklahoma 3,027,083 1.9 12
17 Clemson 2,970,417 1.8 10
18 Stanford 2,741,550 1.7 10
19 Oklahoma State 2,698,630 1.7 9
20 Northwestern 2,684,300 1.7 5
21 Wisconsin 2,671,278 1.7 9
22 Penn State 2,652,000 1.7 6
23 Mississippi State 2,607,429 1.6 7
24 Mississippi 2,536,750 1.5 8
25 Arkansas 2,485,000 1.5 6
26 Texas 2,408,778 1.5 9
27 Oregon 2,372,350 1.5 10
28 North Carolina 2,244,500 1.5 4
29 UCLA 2,235,650 1.4 10
30 USC 2,205,000 1.4 8
31 Purdue 2,203,500 1.5 4
32 Iowa 2,171,250 1.4 6
33 Miami 2,095,300 1.3 11
34 Arizona State 2,092,286 1.3 7
35 Pittsburgh 2,074,000 1.3 5
36 Texas Tech 1,919,300 1.2 10
37 Baylor 1,873,700 1.1 10
38 Boston College 1,734,125 1.2 4
39 Vanderbilt 1,730,800 1.1 5
40 UCF 1,639,667 1.1 6
41 Illinois 1,627,600 1.1 5
42 Minnesota 1,616,524 1.1 7
43 Arizona 1,601,375 1.0 4
44 Virginia Tech 1,556,111 1.0 9
45 Georgia Tech 1,496,000 1.0 8
46 Washington 1,457,750 0.9 8
47 Louisville 1,435,375 1.0 8
48 TCU 1,352,125 0.9 8
49 Kentucky 1,323,857 0.8 7
50 Oregon State 1,278,286 0.8 7
51 Duke 1,278,000 0.8 7
52 West Virginia 1,271,200 0.8 10
53 Rice 1,211,500 0.8 4
54 Indiana 1,191,875 0.8 4
55 Boise State 1,189,429 0.8 7
56 San Diego State 1,134,250 0.7 4
57 BYU 1,129,444 0.7 9
58 Northern Illinois 1,115,250 0.8 4
59 Kansas State 1,058,167 0.7 10
60 Washington State 1,025,500 0.6 8
61 UConn 1,013,250 0.6 4
62 Navy 990,600 0.7 5
63 Cal 986,000 0.7 8
64 Maryland 979,000 0.6 6
65 Virginia 883,500 0.6 6
66 Fresno State 871,286 0.6 7
67 SMU 868,000 0.5 6
68 Air Force 849,000 0.6 5
69 Wake Forest 758,833 0.5 6
70 USF 743,333 0.5 6
71 Utah State 731,000 0.5 4
72 Ohio 710,000 0.5 4
73 Utah 662,000 0.4 5
74 Iowa State 644,000 0.4 9
75 Nevada 644,000 0.4 4
76 Rutgers 594,222 0.4 9
77 Buffalo 585,800 0.4 5
78 San Jose State 569,750 0.4 4
79 Kansas 564,571 0.4 7
80 Cincinnati 531,750 0.4 8
81 Bowling Green 519,800 0.3 5
82 Toledo 479,500 0.3 4
83 UL-Lafayette 409,750 0.3 4
84 Houston 371,000 0.3 8
85 Tulsa 355,200 0.2 5
86 Marshall 303,800 0.2 5
87 New Mexico 281,750 0.2 4
88 Troy 145,500 0.1 4

WhawhaWhat 07-15-2014 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10747143)
Almario has also pulled in $14.8m before this deal. So $22.5m with the extension. That'll move him past Kleiza (18m) into 2nd place behind Keyon Dooling at $30m. Don't know if he'll catch Dooling.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/...doolike01.html

I was a huge fan of Dooling back in the day. Dude had hops.

|Zach| 07-15-2014 06:17 AM

So this thread is still a thing in the world?

WhawhaWhat 07-15-2014 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 10747443)
So this thread is still a thing in the world?

Aren't you still posting in the World Cup thread?

|Zach| 07-15-2014 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10747452)
Aren't you still posting in the World Cup thread?

That ended a few days ago.

Mizzou sitting pretty in the best conference in the nation was years ago.

TribalElder 07-15-2014 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 10747455)
That ended a few days ago.

Mizzou sitting pretty in the best conference in the nation is now

FYP

WhawhaWhat 07-15-2014 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 10747455)
That ended a few days ago.

Mizzou sitting pretty in the best conference in the nation was years ago.

Maryland and Rutgers just switched to the Big Ten on July 1. Conference realignment lives!!

|Zach| 07-15-2014 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10747462)
Maryland and Rutgers just switched to the Big Ten on July 1. Conference realignment lives!!

Ha. Fair enough.

WhawhaWhat 07-15-2014 06:47 AM

Not to mention that eventually the 4 teams in the college football playoffs will be the winners of the 4 major 16 team conferences, SEC, Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC.

|Zach| 07-15-2014 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10747466)
Not to mention that eventually the 4 teams in the college football playoffs will be the winners of the 4 major 16 team conferences, SEC, Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC.

Because that is what this thread has been about. Realignment and playoffs.

All I see are blabbering Kansas fans rationalizing weird non sensical things they say.

WhawhaWhat 07-15-2014 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 10747472)
Because that is what this thread has been about. Realignment and playoffs.

All I see are blabbering Kansas fans rationalizing weird non sensical things they say.

Multi purpose thread for the masses. We take all kinds.

TribalElder 07-15-2014 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 10747472)
Because that is what this thread has been about. Realignment and playoffs.

All I see are blabbering Kansas fans rationalizing weird non sensical things they say.

They are just butthurt like bill self because he wasn't the Cleveland cavs first choice, calapari was and used that to get a big raise in Kentucky.

Prison Bitch 07-15-2014 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by |Zach| (Post 10747472)
All I see are blabbering Kansas fans rationalizing weird non sensical things they say.

"Those were 2 great soccer quarterfinals today" - Fat Zach, following Argentina 1-Belgium 0 & Holland 0-Costa Rica 0.

|Zach| 07-15-2014 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10747479)
"Those were 2 great soccer quarterfinals today" - Fat Zach, following Argentina 1-Belgium 0 & Holland 0-Costa Rica 0.

USA...The world...riveted by it all.

It is fine if you were not. What a fantastic ****ing World Cup that was. That final even had Lebron James talking about how big it was compared to an NBA Final.

Bambi 07-15-2014 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10747477)
They are just butthurt like bill self because he wasn't the Cleveland cavs first choice, calapari was and used that to get a big raise in Kentucky.

Bill Self turns down the chance to coach LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and Andrew Wiggins to NBA glory.

Says all you need to say about what Kansas is.

Talk about sitting pretty...

RustShack 07-15-2014 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747662)
Bill Self turns down the chance to coach LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and Andrew Wiggins to NBA glory.

Says all you need to say about what Kansas is.

Talk about sitting pretty...

Too bad he had no idea that James or the #1 pick would be there.

RustShack 07-15-2014 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 10747466)
Not to mention that eventually the 4 teams in the college football playoffs will be the winners of the 4 major 16 team conferences, SEC, Big 10, Pac 12 and ACC.

Lol no.

Bambi 07-15-2014 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10747670)
Too bad he had no idea that James or the #1 pick would be there.

huh? He talked to the Cavs the entire time. Why do you think they took Wiggins?

RustShack 07-15-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747694)
huh? He talked to the Cavs the entire time. Why do you think they took Wiggins?

ROFL

Blatt was already their coach when they drafted Wiggins. They also called Hoiberg before they called Self.

TribalElder 07-15-2014 10:35 AM

And Izzo in there also

RustShack 07-15-2014 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10747707)
And Izzo in there also

They talked to several coaches. College and NBA assistants. Callipari was the only guy they formally offered the job to before Blatt.

Prison Bitch 07-15-2014 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747662)
Bill Self turns down the chance to coach LeBron James, Kyrie Irving and Andrew Wiggins to NBA glory.

Says all you need to say about what Kansas is.

Talk about sitting pretty...


Nothing makes local area fans of other schools as angry as Kansas basketball. We all know why. The general feeling in Lawrence has always been: "take care of your own house. Don't hate us because we're beautiful." And it's true: don't hate the playa, hate the inventor of the game.


Screaming about basketball posts isn't a solution to your woes. Winning is.

TribalElder 07-15-2014 10:48 AM

Billy would get exposed on the next level like Saban in the nfl

Self should stay in kansas where he has a chance

Bambi 07-15-2014 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10747725)
Nothing makes local area fans of other schools as angry as Kansas basketball. We all know why. The general feeling in Lawrence has always been: "take care of your own house. Don't hate us because we're beautiful." And it's true: don't hate the playa, hate the inventor of the game.


Screaming about basketball posts isn't a solution to your woes. Winning is.

Talking Kansas Basketball is talking about the elite in sports with other like-minded fans.

True we don't have this with KU Football, Chiefs Football, Royals or obviously any other local college teams. I'm definitely used to it and try hard not to rub it in when it comes to accomplishment both in the collegiate ranks and in the pros.

I mean KU Football is a laughingstock right? Then why is it all I see are KU players in the NFL playoffs and nothing from mizzou and Iowa State?

And we're not even talking about the sport KU is good in.

TribalElder 07-15-2014 10:50 AM

4 touchdowns in 1 game memories time

Bowser 07-15-2014 10:51 AM

Lol. Self has a "Get Out of Jail Free" card in Lawrence. He doesn't pay for food, get tickets, and could possibly be elected mayor tomorrow if he so chose, and that's not mentioning how his salary stretches out even further because he is in Lawrence Kansas.

Self is on easy street, why would he want to leave? Of course, if he makes last year a habit and can't get into the sweet sixteen a few years in a row....

RustShack 07-15-2014 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10747734)
Billy would get exposed on the next level like Saban in the nfl

Self should stay in kansas where he has a chance

No kidding. He has a hard enough time winning with a big talent advantage, he doesn't have a chance when he's on a level floor or coaching against better players.

WhawhaWhat 07-15-2014 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747735)
I mean KU Football is a laughingstock right? Then why is it all I see are KU players in the NFL playoffs and nothing from mizzou and Iowa State?

Because you've only watched one game, college and pro, in the past 2 years.

Prison Bitch 07-15-2014 11:14 AM

Kansas basketball should be emulated by all, not scorned. Of course the hot chick in school is always hated by the chubby uglies. Human nature is lame.

Bambi 07-15-2014 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10747810)
Kansas basketball should be emulated by all, not scorned. Of course the hot chick in school is always hated by the chubby uglies. Human nature is lame.


LMAO that was kinda mean PB.

Pitt Gorilla 07-15-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747735)
Talking Kansas Basketball is talking about the elite in sports with other like-minded fans.

True we don't have this with KU Football, Chiefs Football, Royals or obviously any other local college teams. I'm definitely used to it and try hard not to rub it in when it comes to accomplishment both in the collegiate ranks and in the pros.

I mean KU Football is a laughingstock right? Then why is it all I see are KU players in the NFL playoffs and nothing from mizzou and Iowa State?

And we're not even talking about the sport KU is good in.

You're even bad at lying.

Bambi 07-15-2014 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10747845)
You're even bad at lying.


It's already been established that KU players and MU players are fairly equally represented in the nfl with KU players landing much bigger contracts lately... I find this surprising with mizzou being the football factory that it is.

I don't even know if there are any Iowa state players in the NFL.

Bambi 07-15-2014 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10747738)
Lol. Self has a "Get Out of Jail Free" card in Lawrence. He doesn't pay for food, get tickets, and could possibly be elected mayor tomorrow if he so chose, and that's not mentioning how his salary stretches out even further because he is in Lawrence Kansas.



Self is on easy street, why would he want to leave? Of course, if he makes last year a habit and can't get into the sweet sixteen a few years in a row....


Kinda sounds like Pinkle. Well, except for the whole missing of National Champioships, BCS/playoff appearances and all...

blake5676 07-15-2014 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747863)
It's already been established that KU players and MU players are fairly equally represented in the nfl with KU players landing much bigger contracts lately... I find this surprising with mizzou being the football factory that it is.

I don't even know if there are any Iowa state players in the NFL.

We've done this before, moron. Please refer to posts #4172

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=4172

and post #4182

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=4182


Refuting your lies and BS is honestly pointless, because you ignore it and move on after you get spanked.

Rather than ignoring this, why don't you give your opinion and let us know why these HARD STATISTICS, using PB's own source and chosen method of player evaluation, are wrong?

And before you start down the "more $$ and contracts" route, lets establish that you had 3 players playing for a contract this past year. Stuckey got 4 years for 7M, Collins 5 years for 30M and Talib got 6 for 58M (only 3 years and 27 of which is guaranteed).

Nowhere has any Mizzou fan said these players suck. Talib is above average, Harris looks promising and is pretty solid and Colins is the definition of average. You have nothing else of note in the NFL.

Bambi 07-15-2014 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 10747913)
We've done this before, moron. Please refer to posts #4172

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=4172

and post #4182

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=4182


Refuting your lies and BS is honestly pointless, because you ignore it and move on after you get spanked.

Rather than ignoring this, why don't you give your opinion and let us know why these HARD STATISTICS, using PB's own source and chosen method of player evaluation, are wrong?

And before you start down the "more $$ and contracts" route, lets establish that you had 3 players playing for a contract this past year. Stuckey got 4 years for 7M, Collins 5 years for 30M and Talib got 6 for 58M (only 3 years and 27 of which is guaranteed).

Nowhere has any Mizzou fan said these players suck. Talib is above average, Harris looks promising and is pretty solid and Colins is the definition of average. You have nothing else of note in the NFL.

So when do the MU players get paid?

Bambi 07-15-2014 12:15 PM

Because this list is pretty one-sided

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=4186

Bowser 07-15-2014 12:45 PM

LMAO

How much was Gabbert's signing bonus again?

blake5676 07-15-2014 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747920)
Because this list is pretty one-sided

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=4186

Well, you completely bypassed my post and ignored the question I posed. But I'll bite and respond.

Two points first.

1) Talib and Collins just signed free agent contracts.

2) Your list there is incorrect/not up to date.

Something else that should be noted before showing you what an idiot you are is that these contracts are NOT GUARANTEED. If Talib plays out his entire 6 years at that price then I'll stop posting forever and you won't have to get bitch slapped so often.

Maclin is on a one year prove it deal after tearing his ACL. He was offered a 5 year deal but declined.

Ziggy Hood signed a 4 year 16M deal in the offseason.

Aldon Smith had his last option picked up from his rookie contract, and is making almost $10M this season, a higher number than any KU player. And he has not been able to sign a FA contract yet.

The same can be said for Sheldon Richardson and Weatherspoon. Still playing on rookie contracts.

William Moore signed a 5 year 35M deal last spring

Justin Smith restructured for cap reasons and signed an extension. He's not going to get another long term deal at his age. But he's still making 7.5M this year and next.


Your logic is completely flawed valuing these players.

According to you, Darrell Stuckey and his pedestrian 4 year 7M deal means he's a better player than Chris Harris, bc Harris is only owed 2.2 since he's still playing on his rookie contract.

Just give up.

Bowser 07-15-2014 12:47 PM

This is an exercise in complete futility, of course. It is fun to watch the Wonder Twins flail and throw haymakers in ANY attempt to shine a relevant light on KU, though.

Sully 07-15-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747735)
why is it all I see are KU players in the NFL playoffs and nothing from Mizzou


ROFL

duncan_idaho 07-15-2014 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10747920)
Because this list is pretty one-sided

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=4186

Your and idiot.

Bambi 07-15-2014 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 10747965)
Well, you completely bypassed my post and ignored the question I posed. But I'll bite and respond.

Two points first.

1) Talib and Collins just signed free agent contracts.

2) Your list there is incorrect/not up to date.

Something else that should be noted before showing you what an idiot you are is that these contracts are NOT GUARANTEED. If Talib plays out his entire 6 years at that price then I'll stop posting forever and you won't have to get bitch slapped so often.

Maclin is on a one year prove it deal after tearing his ACL. He was offered a 5 year deal but declined.

Ziggy Hood signed a 4 year 16M deal in the offseason.

Aldon Smith had his last option picked up from his rookie contract, and is making almost $10M this season, a higher number than any KU player. And he has not been able to sign a FA contract yet.

The same can be said for Sheldon Richardson and Weatherspoon. Still playing on rookie contracts.

William Moore signed a 5 year 35M deal last spring

Justin Smith restructured for cap reasons and signed an extension. He's not going to get another long term deal at his age. But he's still making 7.5M this year and next.


Your logic is completely flawed valuing these players.

According to you, Darrell Stuckey and his pedestrian 4 year 7M deal means he's a better player than Chris Harris, bc Harris is only owed 2.2 since he's still playing on his rookie contract.

Just give up.

Go for it. Update my list.

Bambi 07-15-2014 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 10747968)
ROFL

Actually you're right. There's plenty to see from MU in the NFL

http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/23/53/71.../5/628x471.jpg

http://prod.images.chargers.clubs.nf...960&height=720

http://www.broncosgab.com/wp-content...ris-Harris.jpg

http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-conte...ib-chillin.jpg

http://www.nfladvisor.com/wp-content...SI_7464825.jpg

http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/S...p4gJZShqyl.jpg

MU in the NFL? Not so much...

http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/wp-c...th-mugshot.jpg

http://www.bayareasportsguy.com/wp-c...st-mugshot.jpg

http://underneathestarz.files.wordpr...014/03/ms1.jpg

http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/8045.../124854409.jpg

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/uploads/cho.../blaine2.0.jpg
http://www.komu.com/images/news/spor...re_mugshot.jpg

Bowser 07-15-2014 01:05 PM

KU FOOTBALL IS RELEVANT DAMN YOU ALL

ROFL ROFL

Bowser 07-15-2014 01:05 PM

So is this the point where MU fans are supposed to post a pic of the beard licker with her tits flopping out?

Pitt Gorilla 07-15-2014 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10747988)
So is this the point where MU fans are supposed to post a pic of the beard licker with her tits flopping out?

One might post a picture of Sheldon Richardson accepting the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year Award:
http://imgick.nj.com/home/njo-media/...9d26b03d99.jpg

Aldon and Justin Smith making the Pro Bowl:

http://nfl49ers.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=588&h=277

Moore and Spoon doing work:

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/W...TeahGvyn0m.jpg

Talib's mugshot

http://www.pitch.com/imager/aqib-tal..._talib_mug.jpg

or whatever. I'm not sure why bambi didn't post those.

blake5676 07-15-2014 01:50 PM

Newest rumblings about the SEC Network.


http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...cle727785.html

Bambi 07-15-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10748050)
One might post a picture of Sheldon Richardson accepting the NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year Award:
http://imgick.nj.com/home/njo-media/...9d26b03d99.jpg

Aldon and Justin Smith making the Pro Bowl:

http://nfl49ers.files.wordpress.com/...pg?w=588&h=277

Moore and Spoon doing work:

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/W...TeahGvyn0m.jpg

Talib's mugshot

http://www.pitch.com/imager/aqib-tal..._talib_mug.jpg

or whatever. I'm not sure why bambi didn't post those.

Now we're talking. Good post

Sully 07-15-2014 01:59 PM

Let's have an honestly/joke check;

Say you run an NFL team, and have your choice between the top 5 players that played at kU or the top 5 players from Mizzou.
Which 5 do you take?

kepp 07-15-2014 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sully (Post 10748069)
Let's have an honestly/joke check;

Say you run an NFL team, and have your choice between the top 5 players that played at kU or the top 5 players from Mizzou.
Which 5 do you take?

I know where the Dline would come from.


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