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MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967625)
That's a laughably low standard. OBJ isn't a good LT, barely servicable. He got Mahomes hurt in 2022, got Burrow hurt in 2023, and missed almost half the year in 2024.

I liked the part where our OL gave up zero sacks to a stacked Eagles defense in a Super Bowl and put up 38 points.

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 12:26 PM

Sure, if we can play on a field that completely neutralizes any pass rush threat all the time throw out any scrub muffin we can find.

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967636)
Sure, if we can play on a field that completely neutralizes any pass rush threat all the time throw out any scrub muffin we can find.

That was the Eagles fans excuse. Surprised you 100% accepted it.

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17967641)
That was the Eagles fans excuse. Surprised you 100% accepted it.

LMAO Toma himself acknowledged how ****ing terrible it was and went into a deep dive as to exactly why.

FloridaMan88 02-13-2025 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17967633)
I liked the part where our OL gave up zero sacks to a stacked Eagles defense in a Super Bowl and put up 38 points.

Also have to acknowledge that Andrew Wylie was part of that offensive line.

A not great, but serviceable and low cost RT… who Veach decided to “upgrade” from with Jawaan Taylor and his $20 million AAV.

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967644)
LMAO Toma himself acknowledged how ****ing terrible it was and went into a deep dive as to exactly why.

Both teams had to play on the same field.


That's football. Boo hoo, poor Eagles had to play on grass.


LMAO

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17967657)
Both teams had to play on the same field.


That's football. Boo hoo, poor Eagles had to play on grass.


LMAO

Uhh. Right. Both offenses had an incredible advantage playing on a field that shoddy.

Mecca 02-13-2025 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17967645)
Also have to acknowledge that Andrew Wylie was part of that offensive line.

A not great, but serviceable and low cost RT… who Veach decided to “upgrade” from with Jawaan Taylor and his $20 million AAV.

They gave Browns money to Taylor, Wylie wasn't going to be low cost anymore and they felt they could get more athletic.

For the most part Taylor is the player he's always been.

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967666)
Uhh. Right. Both offenses had an incredible advantage playing on a field that shoddy.

The thought was we would easily replace Orlando Brown Jr.


That hasn't happened yet.

Sassy Squatch 02-13-2025 12:47 PM

Really haven't put their best foot forward on it. Donovan Smith was a pivot that worked out and Suamataia/Morris both unfortunately flopped.

RunKC 02-13-2025 01:23 PM

PFF has Cam Robinson projected for $18.75M/yr over 3 years.

Yeah I’d do that. Backload it to the 3rd year with a clean way out and we good

DJ's left nut 02-13-2025 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17967667)
They gave Browns money to Taylor, Wylie wasn't going to be low cost anymore and they felt they could get more athletic.

For the most part Taylor is the player he's always been.

Yup.

I'm disappointed in the Taylor deal because I thought he'd A) transition to LT and B) continue to to progress given where he was in his career and the fairly poor organization he'd been in for the years prior.

He just didn't get better. He's the same guy he's always been.

Which does NOT make him a bad player. At all. It means he's been a little overpaid (or at least will have been by the time next year's deal is over) and didn't fit the needs of the team as well as I hoped he would.

It's been a B-/C+ deal. There are worse teams signed by NFL teams every season. There are guys who simply don't make the field and the team falls apart around them.

I mean you compare it to, say, the Omenihu deal that nobody really complains about. He got $16 million and didn't really contribute to the 2023 championship run after getting hurt in the playoffs. He wasn't as impactful this year as he was at his best last year and we didn't go as far with him in the lineup than we did without him in the lineup last season.

At $16 million for 8 sacks over 17 games that deal ended up being....eh. B-/C+.

DRM08 02-13-2025 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17967569)
Suamataia
Morris
Suamataia
Morris
Thuney
Humphries
Thuney

There's 17 games in a ****ing season and he had a 4 man rotation playing musical chairs all year. Just saying he needed to suck it up is a bit lame IMO.

5 different people at Left Tackle in 5 Super Bowl appearances. You would think this occurred over a 15-20 year period. NOPE. It was just a 6 year period. This isn't sustainable. Josh Allen has had the same dude at Left Tackle for 99% of the games over the last 7 years.

MahomesMagic 02-13-2025 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17967804)
5 different people at Left Tackle in 5 Super Bowl appearances. You would think this occurred over a 15-20 year period. NOPE. It was just a 6 year period. This isn't sustainable. Josh Allen has had the same dude at Left Tackle for 99% of the games over the last 7 years.

The GM prior to Beane had a hell of a draft in 2017.

Grabbed the Left Tackle Dion Dawkins with a 3rd round pick a year before they drafted Josh.


We haven't hit on any of the tackles we drafted in the last 7 years.

O.city 02-13-2025 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17967756)
Yup.

I'm disappointed in the Taylor deal because I thought he'd A) transition to LT and B) continue to to progress given where he was in his career and the fairly poor organization he'd been in for the years prior.

He just didn't get better. He's the same guy he's always been.

Which does NOT make him a bad player. At all. It means he's been a little overpaid (or at least will have been by the time next year's deal is over) and didn't fit the needs of the team as well as I hoped he would.

It's been a B-/C+ deal. There are worse teams signed by NFL teams every season. There are guys who simply don't make the field and the team falls apart around them.

I mean you compare it to, say, the Omenihu deal that nobody really complains about. He got $16 million and didn't really contribute to the 2023 championship run after getting hurt in the playoffs. He wasn't as impactful this year as he was at his best last year and we didn't go as far with him in the lineup than we did without him in the lineup last season.

At $16 million for 8 sacks over 17 games that deal ended up being....eh. B-/C+.

Browsing around some stuff today...I just don't see how Chase Young isn't your ideal guy to drop into this defense. They don't like speed guys, he's not just a speed guy. They don't like older players, he's 26.

Just makes too much sense to me.


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