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Discuss Thrower 06-05-2017 12:22 PM

Smith will get an extension if Mahomes doesn't perform well in the preseason.

BlackOp 06-05-2017 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12902992)
I don't believe Mahomes will be ready to start the 2018 and even if he proves me wrong, the Chiefs should keep Smith on the roster as insurance or trade bait before the season starts.

There is also the possibility of Smith having a career year..which would make things interesting if Mahomes isnt quite ready. He knows he has to perform this year...he was the #1 rated QB the year after they drafted Kaepernick then was injured.

Dayze 06-05-2017 12:24 PM

first time in a LONG time that I'm excited about pre-season so see what we have in a few players. I usually just completely ignore PS altogether for the most part.

staylor26 06-05-2017 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 12903010)
Smith will get an extension if Mahomes doesn't perform well in the preseason.

Lol no. You don't draft a QB in the 1st then turn around and give your starter an extension.

O.city 06-05-2017 12:34 PM

The 17 mil from cutting smith would go a long way into locking up the young guys here and it adding more weapons for your young qb. I'd be surprised if he's in the roster next june

KChiefs1 06-05-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12902997)
How do you envision us getting a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Smith?


In my dreams.


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DaneMcCloud 06-05-2017 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12902997)
How do you envision us getting a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Smith?

The same way the Eagles received a #1 and #4 from Minnesota.

An injured starter.

DaneMcCloud 06-05-2017 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12903005)
What team is trading a 2nd round pick for a 34 year old QB that doesn't throw for more than 20 TDs in a season?

Did someone duplicate our team?

Yes, the Bills and the Jets.

DaneMcCloud 06-05-2017 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12903023)
The 17 mil from cutting smith would go a long way into locking up the young guys here and it adding more weapons for your young qb. I'd be surprised if he's in the roster next june

If the Chiefs release Smith early next year, it won't be to add offensive free agents. For one, they tried that with Bowe and Maclin, giving identical 5 year, $55 million dollar deals that blew up in their face.

#2, the list of free agent wide receivers is pretty much dogshit. I doubt the Dolphins allow Jarvis Landry to leave, same with the Texans and DeAndre Hopkins. Alshon Jeffery will be 28 and he's injury prone. Maybe they might be able to lure Allen Robinson but it's likely that the Jags will at least use the Transition Tag on him, so he'll cost at least a #2 and $6 million per.

The rest are a whole lot of "meh".

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agen...wide-receiver/

The Tight End market is pretty weak as well. They're already paying Kelce $9 million per, so they're not going to get into a bidding war and pay Tyler Eifert $10 million per or more (and Cincy is likely to keep him). If Escobar or Travis plays well, both will be on the cheap (and Travis will be under contract next year, anyway).

Again, the rest are a whole lot of "meh" and none deserve big contracts.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2018/tight-end/

They're going to save a ton of cap room after releasing DJ, Hali, Reid, Harris, etc. and unless Mahomes plays like Dak and/or Smith takes a gigantic step back, I don't see the Chiefs rushing to clear cap space by releasing Smith with the reasoning of getting more weapons for Mahomes.

They'll continue to do that in the draft.

DJ's left nut 06-05-2017 01:12 PM

Allen Robinson can/should be the target if the Jags don't franchise him.

Teams do not receive any compensation for losing a player slapped with the transition tag so if the Jags use it on Robinson, who cares? That just gives them right of first refusal.

Robinson would be an outstanding fit here. He's young, he's aggressive, he's fast and he has great size. He'd be something like 25 yrs old in his first season here so you'd think there'd be plenty of tread left on the tires.

I see no reason to just close the door on him or refer to him as 'pretty much dogshit'. In his 2nd year in the NFL, the only year with even remotely stable QB play, he had 1,400 yards and 80 receptions.

The guy's a slam-dunk pickup but I doubt we'll be so lucky. The Jags would be nuts to let him hit the market.

O.city 06-05-2017 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12903055)
If the Chiefs release Smith early next year, it won't be to add offensive free agents. For one, they tried that with Bowe and Maclin, giving identical 5 year, $55 million dollar deals that blew up in their face.

#2, the list of free agent wide receivers is pretty much dogshit. I doubt the Dolphins allow Jarvis Landry to leave, same with the Texans and DeAndre Hopkins. Alshon Jeffery will be 28 and he's injury prone. Maybe they might be able to lure Allen Robinson but it's likely that the Jags will at least use the Transition Tag on him, so he'll cost at least a #2 and $6 million per.

The rest are a whole lot of "meh".

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agen...wide-receiver/

The Tight End market is pretty weak as well. They're already paying Kelce $9 million per, so they're not going to get into a bidding war and pay Tyler Eifert $10 million per or more (and Cincy is likely to keep him). If Escobar or Travis plays well, both will be on the cheap (and Travis will be under contract next year, anyway).

Again, the rest are a whole lot of "meh" and none deserve big contracts.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2018/tight-end/

They're going to save a ton of cap room after releasing DJ, Hali, Reid, Harris, etc. and unless Mahomes plays like Dak and/or Smith takes a gigantic step back, I don't see the Chiefs rushing to clear cap space by releasing Smith with the reasoning of getting more weapons for Mahomes.

They'll continue to do that in the draft.

It doesn't necessarily have to be offensive weapons per say, though. All those guys they'll cut will need to have replacements added and they'll need a starter or three on defense.

Using Mahomes cheap years to load up the defense so they don't have to put so much pressure in him early is another big factor.

They traded up for Mahomes can get out from under Smith next years gaining a lot of money to lock up some more of their young core.

Hammock Parties 06-05-2017 01:14 PM

Not only will Smith remain on the roster in 2018, he will then be traded for two FIRST round picks, and THEN win a Super Bowl! WITH THE BROWNS! AFTER BEING NAMED LEAGUE MVP!

HE WILL BEAT ALL THE ODDS! FINALLY!!!!111one

The Franchise 06-05-2017 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12903079)
Allen Robinson can/should be the target if the Jags don't franchise him.

Teams do not receive any compensation for losing a player slapped with the transition tag so if the Jags use it on Robinson, who cares? That just gives them right of first refusal.

Robinson would be an outstanding fit here. He's young, he's aggressive, he's fast and he has great size. He'd be something like 25 yrs old in his first season here so you'd think there'd be plenty of tread left on the tires.

I see no reason to just close the door on him or refer to him as 'pretty much dogshit'. In his 2nd year in the NFL, the only year with even remotely stable QB play, he had 1,400 yards and 80 receptions.

The guy's a slam-dunk pickup but I doubt we'll be so lucky. The Jags would be nuts to let him hit the market.

He'd be worthless if they trade for Smith.

RunKC 06-05-2017 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12903055)
If the Chiefs release Smith early next year, it won't be to add offensive free agents. For one, they tried that with Bowe and Maclin, giving identical 5 year, $55 million dollar deals that blew up in their face.

#2, the list of free agent wide receivers is pretty much dogshit. I doubt the Dolphins allow Jarvis Landry to leave, same with the Texans and DeAndre Hopkins. Alshon Jeffery will be 28 and he's injury prone. Maybe they might be able to lure Allen Robinson but it's likely that the Jags will at least use the Transition Tag on him, so he'll cost at least a #2 and $6 million per.

The rest are a whole lot of "meh".

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agen...wide-receiver/

The Tight End market is pretty weak as well. They're already paying Kelce $9 million per, so they're not going to get into a bidding war and pay Tyler Eifert $10 million per or more (and Cincy is likely to keep him). If Escobar or Travis plays well, both will be on the cheap (and Travis will be under contract next year, anyway).

Again, the rest are a whole lot of "meh" and none deserve big contracts.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2018/tight-end/

They're going to save a ton of cap room after releasing DJ, Hali, Reid, Harris, etc. and unless Mahomes plays like Dak and/or Smith takes a gigantic step back, I don't see the Chiefs rushing to clear cap space by releasing Smith with the reasoning of getting more weapons for Mahomes.

They'll continue to do that in the draft.

Dorsey won't allow Ford and Morse to be FA's IMO. I think they try to get both of these guys, Santos and Conley new deals without letting them enter FA.

Also think they are going to try to work on Mitchell or Nelson too.

O.city 06-05-2017 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12903079)
Allen Robinson can/should be the target if the Jags don't franchise him.

Teams do not receive any compensation for losing a player slapped with the transition tag so if the Jags use it on Robinson, who cares? That just gives them right of first refusal.

Robinson would be an outstanding fit here. He's young, he's aggressive, he's fast and he has great size. He'd be something like 25 yrs old in his first season here so you'd think there'd be plenty of tread left on the tires.

I see no reason to just close the door on him or refer to him as 'pretty much dogshit'. In his 2nd year in the NFL, the only year with even remotely stable QB play, he had 1,400 yards and 80 receptions.

The guy's a slam-dunk pickup but I doubt we'll be so lucky. The Jags would be nuts to let him hit the market.

Maybe they'd be interested in sending us Jalen Ramsey? Maybe?


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