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Bambi 10-09-2014 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996205)
Dude - just stop.
http://www.lostlettermen.com/article...er-gus-malzahn

Saul Good 10-09-2014 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996205)
Dude - just stop.
He's right.

ChiTown 10-09-2014 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10996214)
That's not the point. The point is, Malzahn would have treated the ku job the same way he treated the Arky State job. 1 yr and he's gone to the SEC. His record at ku wouldn't have been much if any better than Weis. Weis inherited a load of shit from Radio, just as Malzahn would have inherited.

Saul Good 10-09-2014 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996219)
That's not the point. The point is, Malzahn would have treated the ku job the same way he treated the Arky State job. 1 yr and he's gone to the SEC. His record at ku wouldn't have been much if any better than Weis. Weis inherited a load of shit from Radio, just as Malzahn would have inherited.
If he had sucked that first year at Kansas, Auburn wasn't going to offer him the job.

ChiTown 10-09-2014 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10996225)
If he had sucked that first year at Kansas, Auburn wasn't going to offer him the job.
You mean like when Auburn hired Gene Chizik after going 3-9 and 2-10 at ISU?

Bambi 10-09-2014 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996219)
That's not the point. The point is, Malzahn would have treated the ku job the same way he treated the Arky State job. 1 yr and he's gone to the SEC. His record at ku wouldn't have been much if any better than Weis. Weis inherited a load of shit from Radio, just as Malzahn would have inherited.
Why do you think that? Do SEC coaches get paid that much more than KU coaches?

Is there less exposure? Bob Stoops, Mack Brown, Mike Gundy....these coaches are underexposed?

Those schools have KU on stadium size so I suppose if Malzan refused to coach anywhere with a stadium under 80k then you have a point.

But dude wanted the job. Zenger hired Weis. And here we are.

Saul Good 10-09-2014 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996232)
You mean like when Auburn hired Gene Chizik after going 3-9 and 2-10 at ISU?
Auburn was a completely different program at that time.

ChiTown 10-09-2014 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10996235)
Why do you think that? Do SEC coaches get paid that much more than KU coaches?

Is there less exposure? Bob Stoops, Mack Brown, Mike Gundy....these coaches are underexposed?

Those schools have KU on stadium size so I suppose if Malzan refused to coach anywhere with a stadium under 80k then you have a point.

But dude wanted the job. Zenger hired Weis. And here we are.
I'm not sure how to explain this to you. But, Gus Malzahn was a rental for whatever school he went to when he left Auburn to go to Arky State. He wasn't coming to ku to stay any longer there than he did at ASU. Once the AU job opened, he was gone - my point.

If you think that prospective Coaches look at the ku job the same as they look at a job in the upper half of the SEC, well, I can't help you.

ChiTown 10-09-2014 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10996247)
Auburn was a completely different program at that time.
They wanted Chizik, the same way they wanted Malzahn - success or not at their former Programs. They were both SEC guys. Chizik was a former FL alum and DC for AU. Malzahn spent time with AR and AU as an OC, and coached Cam Newton to a Heisman.

Saul Good 10-09-2014 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 10996274)
They wanted Chizik, the same way they wanted Malzahn - success or not at their former Programs. They were both SEC guys. Chizik was a former FL alum and DC for AU. Malzahn spent time with AR and AU as an OC, and coached Cam Newton to a Heisman.
You may be right, but I don't think it was a foregone conclusion.

Lzen 10-09-2014 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10996150)
That's a step in the right direction, only paying two head coaches at a time. Keep that up. :D
Ahem...

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10996144)
Weis isn't going to be on the books either, he accepted a reduced buyout already. But carry on

Lzen 10-09-2014 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10996181)
Consider the source. Dude is a terrible poster.
Actually, I like Cochise. He just goes brain dead when it comes to discussing all things KU. I don't hold that against him. Happens to most MU fans. ;)

Prison Bitch 10-09-2014 10:09 AM
Moosters lose their minds over KU. Jealous of the success. As to buyouts, Gill's $6M buyout was made within 2 months of his termination as per his employment contract. It was funded entirely by boosters including Dana Anderson who footed $800k of it.

The canard "How many coaches is KU paying!?!?!?" was always dumb and factually incorrect. They've technically never been paying more than 1 at a time. But then, would we expect any diff from a Mooster?

Eleazar 10-09-2014 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 10996301)
Actually, I like Cochise. He just goes brain dead when it comes to discussing all things KU. I don't hold that against him. Happens to most MU fans. ;)
:p

Well, bambi saying you're terrible is a badge of honor, so I've got that going for me.

Lzen 10-09-2014 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10996314)
Moosters lose their minds over KU. Jealous of the success. As to buyouts, Gill's $6M buyout was made within 2 months of his termination as per his employment contract. It was funded entirely by boosters including Dana Anderson who footed $800k of it.

The canard "How many coaches is KU paying!?!?!?" was always dumb and factually incorrect. They've technically never been paying more than 1 at a time. But then, would we expect any diff from a Mooster?
Aw geez, Gill. That guy should be charged for highway robbery. :doh!:


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