Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 10251951)

WVU and TCU benefited in playing in weak conferences. Now that they are playing with the big boys they are starting to show their true quality. Lets see if either accomplish more than Missouri did in the Big 12 before stating they were better replacements for what was lost.

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 10251946)

I understand, but there is no reason why the Border War can't resume. Even in the SEC you see long standing OOC rivalries played every year. UGA-GT, USC-Clem, UF-FSU. Granted playing KU does not help our OOC, but it is still a longstanding rivalry in college football and one that should continue. The loss of rivalries is the saddest part of realignment although I do think Mizzou has gotten the better end of the realignment deal. It will be hard for us to establish rivalries in the SEC like we had with KU.

Think about it like the NFL, when they realigned and the AFC West lost Seattle no one was that bothered as the Seahawks were never true rivals to the other four teams. Now had the AFC West lost Denver, KC, Oakland, or SD it would have been a different story. Those rivalries are rooted in history and the beginning of the old AFL. You can't replace it with anyone else just like you can't replace the Border War with any other team.

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 10251946)

it is still a longstanding rivalry in college football and one that should continue.

The loss of rivalries is the saddest part of realignment although I do think Mizzou has gotten the better end of the realignment deal.

It will be hard for us to establish rivalries in the SEC like we had with KU.

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10251991)

I don't agree with any of this. The fact that we used to be rivals doesn't mean we need to continue being rivals unless it's good for us. The move to the SEC was better for our school in every possible way. It's not sad to never see KU again. It all is part and parcel to the profile of our program increasing.

The SEC schools consider all the other schools who are competitive in football to be rivals. In a conference like this, every game is a big game. The Florida fans have Georgia to hate, but they also have massive rivalries with Bama, LSU, and Tennessee, for example. People coming from the Big 8 environment don't really get this because it wasn't the way it was there, but being in the SEC replaces the model of having just one major rivalry. It's a different animal. Your rivalry is with the entire conference.

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10251969)

The teams choosing to leave conferences are choosing to end rivalries.

There isn't an example out there that disproves that.

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10252058)

They can't because Kansas refused. It's not up to MU.

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 10252085)

This is a lie and you know it. Mizzou has an open offer to play KU anytime, anywhere. KU refuses to play, therefore KU, and no one else, ended the series. Mizzou fans have moved on, but when you say stupid lying shit like this, it needs to be corrected. Conference affiliation is not necessary for a rivalry game to occur. Many, many bitter rivalries have been cited in this thread that occur between teams from different conferences.

Quit lying and man up and just say KU ended it. I know you won't, because you are either too stupid to do so, or lack the integrity, or both.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10252083)

I've got no interest in reviving the rivalry. When your rival is that terrible, it can only hold you back. Just win tomorrow, and we're everybody's rival.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10252083)

I've got no interest in reviving the rivalry. When your rival is that terrible, it can only hold you back. Just win tomorrow, and we're everybody's rival.

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10252107)

There's a first time for everything.

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10251901)

I don't think Kansas is going to come knocking wanting to play football games anytime soon. The last thing they need when their program is a dumpster fire like it usually is would be a tough out of conference game.

I would be in favor of Missouri now and forever moving on from the former rivalry anyway. We are in an entirely new conference now, we are building new traditions and history. The old Big 8 was fun, but it's time to live in the present.

We don't really gain anything by beating a team that has only had a winning conference record 1 of the last 20-odd years. It will just reduce our SOS. We gave them a chance to continue playing each other, and they did the jilted ex-girlfriend act, so fine. We moved on and moved up. They can enjoy Wildcat fans filling up their stadium every other year if they need a rivalry fix in the fall.

I think we've got some interesting things brewing between ourselves and South Carolina, A&M, GA and FL. The neat thing about the SEC is that pretty much all of these teams are all rivals. All these series are hotly contested and competitive.

We don't need anything from them. Their football program has sunk back into the depths after raising the periscope for a few brief moments in the last decade. They are back to being the Duke or Kentucky of their conference. There really doesn't need to be any more ink wasted on Missouri/Kansas.