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nychief 01-03-2025 10:31 AM

Good for him. I wonder what he'll look like... I imagine quite rusty.

RunKC 01-03-2025 10:32 AM

Rick Burkholder has been phenomenal. You can say what you want about not having enough people but in terms of rehab, PT and functional recovery, Burkholder and his team need to openly tell the NFLPA survey mongers to shut the **** up.

Omenihu, Hollywood and now Watson just this year. Not to forget Mahomes ankle 2 years ago.

DJ's left nut 01-03-2025 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17888296)
LETS ****ING GO, BOYS!

And that also means we can put Nelson in there and have 3 great press corners OMG.

And we could put Uche into a NASCAR package and really create havoc on 3rd downs!!!!!

If Spags didn't ask for ya, you ain't playing. And Spags didn't ask for Nelson.

I really liked the idea (of both Nelson and Uche) but it seems that Spags simply has zero use for either guy. I think he's wrong, but he knows a lot more about this than I do so I guess I just gotta shot up and dribble or something...

Spott 01-03-2025 10:35 AM

Perfect timing.

SHOWTIME 01-03-2025 10:37 AM

We can beat Pitt/Houston without him, but his presence will be huge against Buffalo/Baltimore and the super bowl

DJ's left nut 01-03-2025 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17888313)
We can beat Pitt/Houston without him, but his presence will be huge against Buffalo/Baltimore and the super bowl

That's why I said the bye was key to getting him back, though.

You don't typically tinker with your defensive backfield mid-run in the post-season.

If we had to play next week in the post-season, I'm not sure he'd have been ready. And if he wasn't and we won that game, I don't think Andy would make the switch.

He won't be needed against Pitt/Houston, but he'll have to be a part of it, IMO. Because I'd be a little surprised to just see him dropped into a game against Buffalo or Baltimore.

JPH83 01-03-2025 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17888305)
And we could put Uche into a NASCAR package and really create havoc on 3rd downs!!!!!

If Spags didn't ask for ya, you ain't playing. And Spags didn't ask for Nelson.

I really liked the idea (of both Nelson and Uche) but it seems that Spags simply has zero use for either guy. I think he's wrong, but he knows a lot more about this than I do so I guess I just gotta shot up and dribble or something...

Yeah, can't complain when this is just plain good news, but...man I'd have liked to see more of Uche and Nelson. Really think the former could've rounded out the DL perfectly.

Chiefspants 01-03-2025 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17888305)
And we could put Uche into a NASCAR package and really create havoc on 3rd downs!!!!!

If Spags didn't ask for ya, you ain't playing. And Spags didn't ask for Nelson.

I really liked the idea (of both Nelson and Uche) but it seems that Spags simply has zero use for either guy. I think he's wrong, but he knows a lot more about this than I do so I guess I just gotta shot up and dribble or something...

Spags seems to have no use at all for one trick ponies, or, more specifically, one trick ponies who won’t even try to learn new tricks.

I mean, he had Mike Pennel running his ass off in coverage against the Steelers.

wazu 01-03-2025 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17888325)
I mean, he had Mike Pennel running his ass off in coverage against the Steelers.

LMAO

I somehow missed that. I really hope that's just some crazy shit he wanted to put on tape for other teams.

493rd 01-03-2025 10:51 AM

Well this is unbelievably and unexpected great news.

Graystoke 01-03-2025 10:52 AM

My word! This is all coming together nicely.
As Wazu said...TO THE ****ING SHIP!

UChieffyBugger 01-03-2025 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17888316)
That's why I said the bye was key to getting him back, though.

You don't typically tinker with your defensive backfield mid-run in the post-season.

If we had to play next week in the post-season, I'm not sure he'd have been ready. And if he wasn't and we won that game, I don't think Andy would make the switch.

He won't be needed against Pitt/Houston, but he'll have to be a part of it, IMO. Because I'd be a little surprised to just see him dropped into a game against Buffalo or Baltimore.

When it comes to good players "dropping them in" isn't a problem. Because they are better than their replacements. Watson was having an all-pro type of season statistically so I think they would be willing to wait for him tbh.

DJ's left nut 01-03-2025 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17888325)
Spags seems to have no use at all for one trick ponies, or, more specifically, one trick ponies who won’t even try to learn new tricks.

I mean, he had Mike Pennel running his ass off in coverage against the Steelers.

But here's the thing - Uche isn't one-trick.

He's been a stand-up OLB in his time at NE. The guy has played in coverage plenty and been just fine in the role.

As a rusher he has one real trick, but he WILL show an effective bull rush at times that he throws on the back of the speed rush.

I just think this is a measurables thing with Spags and I don't understand it. The things he could do with the zone blitzes, etc... are MUCH more substantial with Uche at DE with his coverage experience than they would be with Danna, Pennel, etc...

And you could even have him do some crazy rotational stuff with Chenal where both guys stand up, one comes down to rush and the other goes into coverage and teams can't diagnose which.

It just seemed like he didn't feel like taking the time mid-season to incorporate the skill-set.

But to act like Uche is just some Bruce Irvin guided missile out there doesn't give him enough credit. He can do more than that.

Chiefspants 01-03-2025 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17888326)
LMAO

I somehow missed that. I really hope that's just some crazy shit he wanted to put on tape for other teams.

Uche refusing to line up inside (or making a stink about it, as some said he did) is honestly the moment that’d make me think Spags would cut him loose. I think he does these things (lining up Uche on the inside, putting Pennel in coverage, etc), not because they’ll work, but because he wants his defense to be as flexible and unpredictable as possible.

SD15 01-03-2025 10:59 AM

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RunKC 01-03-2025 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17888305)
And we could put Uche into a NASCAR package and really create havoc on 3rd downs!!!!!

If Spags didn't ask for ya, you ain't playing. And Spags didn't ask for Nelson.

I really liked the idea (of both Nelson and Uche) but it seems that Spags simply has zero use for either guy. I think he's wrong, but he knows a lot more about this than I do so I guess I just gotta shot up and dribble or something...

George Pickens syndrome

These guys aren’t young anymore. Marcus Peters was the last straw for Andy. Spags and Andy just don’t want these ****ing assholes anymore. The last time Uche played he was not happy lining up inside. He was jawing at Omenihu. No wonder NE was selling him cheap.

I think it depends on a lot of factors but Verderame and Derrick have alluded to Uche wanting things his way so he can rush outside and work for a contract.

They don’t want to deal with it anymore and I don’t blame them

smithandrew051 01-03-2025 11:02 AM

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If not, see a dick doc and let’s roll.

BWillie 01-03-2025 11:04 AM

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DJ's left nut 01-03-2025 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17888350)
George Pickens syndrome

These guys aren’t young anymore. Marcus Peters was the last straw for Andy. Spags and Andy just don’t want these ****ing assholes anymore. The last time Uche played he was not happy lining up inside. He was jawing at Omenihu. No wonder NE was selling him cheap.

I think it depends on a lot of factors but Verderame and Derrick have alluded to Uche wanting things his way so he can rush outside and work for a contract.

They don’t want to deal with it anymore and I don’t blame them

Uche has never been known as a malcontent and frankly he SHOULDN'T be happy lining up inside. It's stupid to have stuck him in there (especially if the players freelanced it around him) because he's not at all equipped for that.

If Reid goes down into the box and tells Chenal to get back to safety, Chenal would be understandably irked by it. And it would be equally foolish.

Why shouldn't Uche and Spags be in alignment here? Uche SHOULD want to rush from the outside and frankly Spags should want him doing it.

Nobody says give Uche 50 snaps. But 10-12 snaps/gm in obvious passing downs SHOULD be Uche out wide. Instead we had him on the bench while Malik Herring was taking snaps against TB as they were driving the field to tie the game and potentially win it.

Uche may well be frustrated -- he probably should be.

RunKC 01-03-2025 11:16 AM

I think Omenihu playing that spot makes him less valuable and not needed. Maybe Uche was like Nelson…an insurance policy, because as soon as Omenihu got back he was taking those snaps on 3rd down.

Can’t really argue the results. The pass rush has been significantly better since Omenihu got back. Season high 5 sacks in a game without Chris Jones. Also the McDuffie INT vs Houston was due to Omenihu getting in Stroud’s face forcing the errant throw.

dirk digler 01-03-2025 11:26 AM

Does that mean him coming back I shouldn't believe what Reid says about injuries. He just said last week it was a stretch

Buehler445 01-03-2025 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17888236)
We've been speculating about what it would take for the Chiefs to blowtorch their way through an entire postseason.

Hmmm.

(1) #1 seed. Check.
(2) Extra rest for team that had a super-early bye week. Check
(3) Offense getting healthy Marquise Brown back and instantly integrating him. Check.
(4) Xavier Worthy rounding into form at the close of his rookie season. Check (and throw in a bonus for him getting extra rest late to help with the rookie wall). Check.
(5) Defensive line healthy. Linebacking corps healthy. Secondary healthy. Check.

Watson completes the puzzle for #5. Let's go get it.

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smithandrew051 01-03-2025 11:49 AM

It was a good chance for Veach and Spags to get other guys experience and evaluation in real situations.

Blessing in disguise as long as he can play well upon return.

DJ's left nut 01-03-2025 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17888364)
I think Omenihu playing that spot makes him less valuable and not needed. Maybe Uche was like Nelson…an insurance policy, because as soon as Omenihu got back he was taking those snaps on 3rd down.

Can’t really argue the results. The pass rush has been significantly better since Omenihu got back. Season high 5 sacks in a game without Chris Jones. Also the McDuffie INT vs Houston was due to Omenihu getting in Stroud’s face forcing the errant throw.

Omenihu can come inside and be a really strong interior rusher, though. Better than Wharton.

And Jones could absolutely use more rest than we've given him this year.

Having Omenihu capable of coming inside and Uche capable of providing a different look that teams have to prepare for is nothing but an asset. And its one we simply didn't attempt to incorporate at all.

I've said this w/r/t FAU before as well -- we set about turning him into Omenihu rather than leaning into what his strengths were. We're just a little dogmatic with our DEs, IMO.

BossChief 01-03-2025 11:55 AM

Incredible news!!! This is such an incredible time to be a Chiefs fan. Love y’all.

St. Patty's Fire 01-03-2025 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17888326)
LMAO

I somehow missed that. I really hope that's just some crazy shit he wanted to put on tape for other teams.

Spags routinely drops his DL into coverage. It's a great way to generate simulated pressures. These plays are designed to force the QB to throw or get sacked before the matchup of a 300lb DL on a pass catcher bones us. There have been a few times where teams get us on these calls but most of the time Spags times them perfectly and they often are used on some of our biggest plays. Anytime is doesn't work people act like it's a completely unheard-of and ridiculous thing but it's all part of why our defense is what it is nowadays

BossChief 01-03-2025 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17888403)
Omenihu can come inside and be a really strong interior rusher, though. Better than Wharton.

And Jones could absolutely use more rest than we've given him this year.

Having Omenihu capable of coming inside and Uche capable of providing a different look that teams have to prepare for is nothing but an asset. And its one we simply didn't attempt to incorporate at all.

I've said this w/r/t FAU before as well -- we set about turning him into Omenihu rather than leaning into what his strengths were. We're just a little dogmatic with our DEs, IMO.

There’s a piece to the Uche puzzle we aren’t aware of.

Dude produced, then disappeared…then traded for pennies…then became a ghost.

dirk digler 01-03-2025 12:02 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jaylen Watson has returned to practice. <a href="https://t.co/8ng3XUfkEK">pic.twitter.com/8ng3XUfkEK</a></p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1875239998800470370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

loochy 01-03-2025 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17888415)
Jaylen Watson has returned to practice. pic.twitter.com/8ng3XUfkEK
— Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) January 3, 2025
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Wow, he looks FAST

DJ's left nut 01-03-2025 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 17888406)
Spags routinely drops his DL into coverage. It's a great way to generate simulated pressures. These plays are designed to force the QB to throw or get sacked before the matchup of a 300lb DL on a pass catcher bones us. There have been a few times where teams get us on these calls but most of the time Spags times them perfectly and they often are used on some of our biggest plays. Anytime is doesn't work people act like it's a completely unheard-of and ridiculous thing but it's all part of why our defense is what it is nowadays

Oh CP has been screeching about zone blitzes every time they don't work since the dawn of the board, I believe.

Yeah, when they bust, they look awful. And they're not something to be used frequently (or with a real pattern).

But they can really !@#$ a young quarterback up something awful and it's funny as hell when they go to script.

St. Patty's Fire 01-03-2025 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17888418)
Oh CP has been screeching about zone blitzes every time they don't work since the dawn of the board, I believe.

Yeah, when they bust, they look awful. And they're not something to be used frequently (or with a real pattern).

But they can really !@#$ a young quarterback up something awful and it's funny as hell when they go to script.

its my go to move in madden lol

wazu 01-03-2025 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire (Post 17888406)
Spags routinely drops his DL into coverage. It's a great way to generate simulated pressures. These plays are designed to force the QB to throw or get sacked before the matchup of a 300lb DL on a pass catcher bones us. There have been a few times where teams get us on these calls but most of the time Spags times them perfectly and they often are used on some of our biggest plays. Anytime is doesn't work people act like it's a completely unheard-of and ridiculous thing but it's all part of why our defense is what it is nowadays

I've seen the zone blitzes. Karlaftis was on one last week. But somehow the thought of Pennel doing it is on another level.

TwistedChief 01-03-2025 12:12 PM

BWILLIE I LOVE YOU YOU'RE NEVER WRONG*!!!!!




*except on things you don't put your money on which are 99% of your posts and in those instances you are always wrong

KCJake 01-03-2025 12:13 PM

Oh man this is GREAT NEWS. Didn't really think it would happen. LET'S GO BABY!!!!!!

BWillie 01-03-2025 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17888426)
BWILLIE I LOVE YOU YOU'RE NEVER WRONG*!!!!!




*except on things you don't put your money on which are 99% of your posts and in those instances you are always wrong

Not outta the woods yet. I let you out for $89.99 or we let it ride.

My reputation of being undefeated in CP bets means the world to me.

St. Patty's Fire 01-03-2025 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17888424)
I've seen the zone blitzes. Karlaftis was on one last week. But somehow the thought of Pennel doing it is on another level.

i mean imagine being a QB and seeing Mike Pennel drop into coverage, you’d be like what the ****, and even 2 seconds of confusion can be enough to destroy a play

you’ve gotta be locked in and on it to counteract shit like that.

TwistedChief 01-03-2025 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17888441)
Not outta the woods yet. I let you out for $89.99 or we let it ride.

My reputation of being undefeated in CP bets means the world to me.

Oh, BWillie. We're letting it ride. This is a very, very partial hedge for me, my friend.

notorious 01-03-2025 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17888418)
Oh CP has been screeching about zone blitzes every time they don't work since the dawn of the board, I believe.

Yeah, when they bust, they look awful. And they're not something to be used frequently (or with a real pattern).

But they can really !@#$ a young quarterback up something awful and it's funny as hell when they go to script.

Zone blitz won Pittsburgh the SB against Arizona.

Harrison dropped into coverage (lol, right?), INT TD the other way. 14 point swing going into half.

Titty Meat 01-03-2025 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17888450)
Oh, BWillie. We're letting it ride. This is a very, very partial hedge for me, my friend.

We are Bwillies bitches now

RunKC 01-03-2025 12:57 PM

Spags defense allowing only 18 PPG, getting Omenihu and Watson back while adding Jaden Hicks? And while playing in Arrowhead?

Good luck to whichever QB we face in the divisional round. I can already picture what Spags is thinking in pre-game LMAO

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smithandrew051 01-03-2025 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17888455)
Zone blitz won Pittsburgh the SB against Arizona.

Harrison dropped into coverage (lol, right?), INT TD the other way. 14 point swing going into half.

That man was a meat square

RaidersOftheCellar 01-03-2025 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17888426)
BWILLIE I LOVE YOU YOU'RE NEVER WRONG*!!!!!




*except on things you don't put your money on which are 99% of your posts and in those instances you are always wrong

Maybe he's craftier than given credit for. By being wrong at such an insanely high rate, he tricks you into believing the odds are dramatically in your favor on a given bet.

DRM08 01-03-2025 01:42 PM

Awesome news.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-03-2025 01:46 PM

:)

Just give us the trophy.

crispystl 01-03-2025 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17888475)
That man was a meat square

Like a Wendy's worm burger.

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-03-2025 02:02 PM

The guys that got injured early in the season doing everything in their earthly power to get get back on the field to help achieve the 3-peat puts a big ol' smile on my face.

Amazing leadership top-to-bottom, the energy and desire to win and do something great is infectious within this organization.

Mecca 01-03-2025 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17888539)
The guys that got injured early in the season doing everything in their earthly power to get get back on the field to help achieve the 3-peat puts a big ol' smile on my face.

Amazing leadership top-to-bottom, the energy and desire to win and do something great is infectious within this organization.

He has a lot of reasons for it, lets not ignore that for a young 7th round draft pick, starting and playing well in a SB on a top end team is his ticket to a huge payday.

htismaqe 01-03-2025 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17888516)
Maybe he's craftier than given credit for. By being wrong at such an insanely high rate, he tricks you into believing the odds are dramatically in your favor on a given bet.

So BWillie is a hustler?

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2025 02:25 PM

I was actually pretty shocked to hear this today. I was thinking the practice window might open on divisional week, but now with this news, he should totally be ready to play that weekend.

Game changer to say the least. You look at some of the teams we could and will match up against deep in the playoffs, especially those with great WR tandems or trios... this goes a long way. Spags can once again deploy his DBs how he wants to.

Have fun with McDuffie this time, Khalil Shakir.

Pitt Gorilla 01-03-2025 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17888418)
Oh CP has been screeching about zone blitzes every time they don't work since the dawn of the board, I believe.

Yeah, when they bust, they look awful. And they're not something to be used frequently (or with a real pattern).

But they can really !@#$ a young quarterback up something awful and it's funny as hell when they go to script.

Correct. CP tends to want pass-rushers to rush the passer, even on running plays.

philfree 01-03-2025 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 17888560)
So BWillie is a hustler?

Trust Fund gambler and hustler. Says he can't putt but that could be a setup.

Tribal Warfare 01-03-2025 03:05 PM

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Shit just got real

Hammock Parties 01-03-2025 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17888415)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jaylen Watson has returned to practice. <a href="https://t.co/8ng3XUfkEK">pic.twitter.com/8ng3XUfkEK</a></p>&mdash; Pete Sweeney (@pgsween) <a href="https://twitter.com/pgsween/status/1875239998800470370?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 3, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

looks like he's favoring the ankle a bit

smithandrew051 01-03-2025 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17888631)
looks like he's favoring the ankle a bit

LMAO

I knew this post was coming

DJ's left nut 01-03-2025 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17888631)
looks like he's favoring the ankle a bit

Yeah -- might be a problem if he finds himself covering the opposing teams defensive end at some point in the game...

(I have no idea what's even happening in that rep)

JohnnyHammersticks 01-03-2025 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17888326)
LMAO

I somehow missed that. I really hope that's just some crazy shit he wanted to put on tape for other teams.

It was bizarre to say the least. Several of us commented about it right when it happened.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17875678)
Putting Pennel in coverage is something I'd have never thought of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17875679)
Let's keep putting Pennel out in coverage. :doh!:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 17875681)
Pennel covering a RB?

That’s stupid.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 17875682)
Pennel in coverage doesn't quite work there.


Wisconsin_Chief 01-03-2025 04:04 PM

I can't get over how amazing this is. This would mean, assuming Watson ends up ready to go for the playoffs, we'll be making our run with arguably the most loaded team we've had for this entire damn thing. You could argue 2019, but this will be damn close. I'd say our roster is actually potentially better than it was going into the year if Humphries, Hunt and Hopkins all play up to their potential. Not many teams can say that.

It's obviously destiny.

TheGuardian 01-03-2025 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17888631)
looks like he's favoring the ankle a bit

Is this a joke? He posted a video of himself backpedaling and running laterally. He's not favoring it at all.

Sassy Squatch 01-03-2025 04:10 PM

I for one thought he was favoring his Coccyx quite a bit. Pretty concerning.

htismaqe 01-03-2025 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 17888705)
Is this a joke? He posted a video of himself backpedaling and running laterally. He's not favoring it at all.

He's being a coward, loser, and traitor.

RunKC 01-03-2025 04:23 PM

Yeah I really hope Veach talks to this kid and can get a deal down with him. He might want bank but it would be cool if he agreed to a workable contract long term.

He’s a really good corner

DJ's left nut 01-03-2025 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17888722)
Yeah I really hope Veach talks to this kid and can get a deal down with him. He might want bank but it would be cool if he agreed to a workable contract long term.

He’s a really good corner

He's on a 7th rounders contract.

Talk to him, sure. But if he takes anything less than what Ward got, he'd be silly.

We still have him under contract next season so he'd still be mitigating a little risk by signing early, but ultimately he just looks for all the world like he's another solid, healthy season away from a $50 million deal.

Now the other thing for US to consider is that he, like Sneed, is a little overaged as a prospect. He was 24 as a rookie so he's maybe not the best gamble long-term as his extension wouldn't even kick in until 28.

Cuts both ways -- does he really want to test the FA market as a 28 year old CB expecting to get a 3-4 year deal? Or would he rather sign early, lock in say $33 million and potentially leave a little money on the table?

DJ's left nut 01-03-2025 04:32 PM

Side note -- hard to believe, but Ward's deal expires this offseason.

Time flies.

xztop123 01-03-2025 04:40 PM

Interesting idea to draft older rookies rather than young so you get their prime years while still on the rookie deal.

DJ's left nut 01-03-2025 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17888736)
Interesting idea to draft older rookies rather than young so you get their prime years while still on the rookie deal.

Veach doesn't typically do that, though. He usually looks for pretty young players.

But on the 3rd day, he appears to just look for guys that can contribute and do so quickly. So we seem to have some 3rd day picks that are older rookies.

I doubt it has anything to do with getting 'prime seasons' on their rookie deals - it's probably just that older rookies are devalued a bit so you can get better quality ones later in the draft and then pump and dump them.

pugsnotdrugs19 01-03-2025 04:55 PM

The vibes are just so unbelievably damn high entering this postseason run. It really feels inevitable. The only thing slightly off is Rice being out, and we were fortunate it happened early on so we could bring Hopkins in.

BWillie 01-03-2025 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17888746)
The vibes are just so unbelievably damn high entering this postseason run. It really feels inevitable. The only thing slightly off is Rice being out, and we were fortunate it happened early on so we could bring Hopkins in.

Kevin Wildes is that you?

Dunerdr 01-03-2025 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17888746)
The vibes are just so unbelievably damn high entering this postseason run. It really feels inevitable. The only thing slightly off is Rice being out, and we were fortunate it happened early on so we could bring Hopkins in.

Rice bangs the drum for the AFCCG.

Hammock Parties 01-03-2025 10:21 PM

Opposing QB completion percentage against KC drops from 67% to 60% when
Jaylen Watson is on the field.

Hammock Parties 01-03-2025 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17888746)
The vibes are just so unbelievably damn high entering this postseason run. It really feels inevitable. The only thing slightly off is Rice being out, and we were fortunate it happened early on so we could bring Hopkins in.

Chiefs are going to murder whoever they face in the Divisional round. Book it.

RINGLEADER 01-03-2025 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17888724)
He's on a 7th rounders contract.

Talk to him, sure. But if he takes anything less than what Ward got, he'd be silly.

We still have him under contract next season so he'd still be mitigating a little risk by signing early, but ultimately he just looks for all the world like he's another solid, healthy season away from a $50 million deal.

Now the other thing for US to consider is that he, like Sneed, is a little overaged as a prospect. He was 24 as a rookie so he's maybe not the best gamble long-term as his extension wouldn't even kick in until 28.

Cuts both ways -- does he really want to test the FA market as a 28 year old CB expecting to get a 3-4 year deal? Or would he rather sign early, lock in say $33 million and potentially leave a little money on the table?

It would be nice if he saw Sneed’s situation and figured winning was worth the $10M-$20M he’d be leaving on the table but you can’t fault anyone for taking that kind of bag. Would be great to keep him but if we believed we could bring in new blood it’s probably best for all parties to not overpay him (especially when we know they’re going to resign McDuffie).

That 2022 draft is just turning out insanely good and it’s that kind of drafting that wins Championships.

RINGLEADER 01-03-2025 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17888918)
Opposing QB completion percentage against KC drops from 67% to 60% when
Jaylen Watson is on the field.

That’s spectacular.

Dante84 01-03-2025 10:32 PM

Hey guys, first time / long time… a quick question: Are Andy Reid teams good after a bye?

I’ll listen off air, thanks

jjchieffan 01-03-2025 11:09 PM

You know, it wasn't that long ago that the NFL wouldn't allow a player to return from IR. Then they finally agreed to allow 2 per team. Now, we've had what? 4-5 return? This makes so much sense. I can't believe that it took the NFL so long to come around to making this possible. Of course, I'm sure that all of the Chiefs haters are wishing that we were still playing under the old rules at this point.

Hammock Parties 01-03-2025 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17888945)
You know, it wasn't that long ago that the NFL wouldn't allow a player to return from IR. Then they finally agreed to allow 2 per team. Now, we've had what? 4-5 return? This makes so much sense. I can't believe that it took the NFL so long to come around to making this possible. Of course, I'm sure that all of the Chiefs haters are wishing that we were still playing under the old rules at this point.

The next step should be allowing 60-man rosters on gameday.

Mecca 01-03-2025 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17888945)
You know, it wasn't that long ago that the NFL wouldn't allow a player to return from IR. Then they finally agreed to allow 2 per team. Now, we've had what? 4-5 return? This makes so much sense. I can't believe that it took the NFL so long to come around to making this possible. Of course, I'm sure that all of the Chiefs haters are wishing that we were still playing under the old rules at this point.

There's still a limit, 8 IR returns in a season, 10 if you make the playoffs.

BlackOp 01-04-2025 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17888950)
There's still a limit, 8 IR returns in a season, 10 if you make the playoffs.

I think teams should be able to play every healthy player on their roster in the SB... having players not even dress is weird to me.

Hammock Parties 01-04-2025 12:34 AM

The defense is playing at such a high level right now, with Watson coming back and Steven Nelson helping out, I feel like it will be easy mode for the offense in the playoffs.

24 points a game gets the threepeat.

My only worry is a key roleplayer getting hurt in Denver. Leo Chenal is probably going to play a ton of snaps in this game.

wasi 01-04-2025 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17888746)
The vibes are just so unbelievably damn high entering this postseason run. It really feels inevitable. The only thing slightly off is Rice being out, and we were fortunate it happened early on so we could bring Hopkins in.

If Rice didn't get hurt, it would just give another reason to complain about the Chiefs because he isn't on death row


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