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In58men 04-26-2024 06:36 AM

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Text from an AFC GM on the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> getting Xavier Worthy: “FU** me” <a href="https://t.co/IjLQ7xeN37">https://t.co/IjLQ7xeN37</a></p>&mdash; Jordan Schultz (@Schultz_Report) <a href="https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/1783700782967079050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rausch 04-26-2024 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17497139)

I think Brown, RR, and Worthy is a pretty incredible receiver room, especially after last season. But, Brown and Worthy rely on speed to make plays, and if they can't get off the LOS, speed doesn't matter. Rice isn't necessarily physical, but he can absorb contact while running at least. We don't really know how he responds to physical play yet, because he didn't really face any.

If you try and jam Hollywood or Worthy and you don't pull it off it's 7 points. They gone. You better have some damned good man coverage guys.
TWO of them.

And while those guys are occupied Rice and El Travador will tear up your safeties and LB's. Worthy doesn't have to be a WR 1 - he just needs to be Hardman with good hands who can track the football deep...

Rausch 04-26-2024 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17497067)
At this point, even though Veach is a top GM, one receiver not sucking, is NOT redeeming him for his struggles drafting wide receivers.

He's been to 4 super bowls in six years.

He can take his 1st round pick and throw it in the trash for all I care...

duncan_idaho 04-26-2024 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17497067)
At this point, even though Veach is a top GM, one receiver not sucking, is NOT redeeming him for his struggles drafting wide receivers.

I'm so sick of this narrative.

The Chiefs have spent 3 picks on WRs that would make you say "Oh, that should be a player."

1. Mecole Hardman
2. Skyy Moore
3. Rashee Rice

(3) was an absolute hit. (1) was a solid value for the 2nd round pick. He was a good contributor on playoff teams and SB-winning squads, whose pick was also influenced by the fact Tyreek Hill makes bad choices when it comes to women he spends time with. (2) is an absolute bust.

You're not going to nail every pick, but some people act like the Chiefs have spent all this high value draft capital at WR and gotten nothing in return, when that is not reality.

smithandrew051 04-26-2024 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17497168)
I'm so sick of this narrative.

The Chiefs have spent 3 picks on WRs that would make you say "Oh, that should be a player."

1. Mecole Hardman
2. Skyy Moore
3. Rashee Rice

(3) was an absolute hit. (1) was a solid value for the 2nd round pick. He was a good contributor on playoff teams and SB-winning squads, whose pick was also influenced by the fact Tyreek Hill makes bad choices when it comes to women he spends time with. (2) is an absolute bust.

You're not going to nail every pick, but some people act like the Chiefs have spent all this high value draft capital at WR and gotten nothing in return, when that is not reality.

Beat me to it.

Hardman was a fine pick. Moore sucks. Rice was a great pick.

That’s really it for Veach and WR draft picks.

Any late round picks are just lottery tickets and nothing more.

Nixhex 04-26-2024 06:56 AM

Devonta Smith is 6 feet tall and 170. X is almost 6 feet tall and 165. Not worried. Dude is tough as nails. Let's go!

WhawhaWhat 04-26-2024 06:56 AM

I noticed this when I was watching his clips. The Texas QB has a weak arm.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Xavier Worthy led college football in &quot;Wide open downfield and his QB couldn&#39;t get it there&quot; plays. <br><br>That, uh, won&#39;t be a problem anymore.</p>&mdash; Chris Vannini (@ChrisVannini) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1783700582684869052?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Rausch 04-26-2024 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17497168)

You're not going to nail every pick, but some people act like the Chiefs have spent all this high value draft capital at WR and gotten nothing in return, when that is not reality.

We've been to 4 super bowls in six years. We're back to back defending champs.

That's Veach's job and he's done it better than everyone else in the NFL.

Win the super bowl. That's the goal. Win it all.

**** those draft picks...

Chris Meck 04-26-2024 07:00 AM

If you watch those videos posted in the OP and aren't excited, I don't know what to tell you.

tredadda 04-26-2024 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17496849)
jesus christ LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">X makes it look easy ��<a href="https://twitter.com/XavierWorthy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@XavierWorthy</a> x <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> <a href="https://t.co/IKEyIp1EES">pic.twitter.com/IKEyIp1EES</a></p>&mdash; Texas Football (@TexasFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/TexasFootball/status/1782942956363657536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like we found our next corndog receiver when we inevitably use it on the way to many more rings.

Dante84 04-26-2024 07:14 AM

One of the PFF guys thinks he looks like Jordan Addison

O.city 04-26-2024 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17497092)
Sure, but having Mahomes isn't an excuse, or even worse, a reason, to have a bunch of scrubs at WR.

We have Hollywood, RR, and now Worthy. Everyone else is a JAG. Not just JAGs, but bottom barrel JAGs.

Eventually, I will find the podcast clip of Mahomes saying he has always wanted a jump ball receiver, and for me, we need a receiver that can't be taken out of the game easily with physical defensive play.

Sure, Worthy and Hollywood are fast, but let's be real, LJ Snead will maul them at the LOS, and they aren't nearly the receivers that Hill, Chase, Jefferson, etc. are, and Sneed shut them down by being physical.

This is one of the reasons I really want Brenden Rice. He is very big, very physical, and played with Caleb Williams.

Right now, the only player we have that has proven he can match physicality is Travis Kelce. Irv Smith Jr., Blake Bell, and Noah Gray aren't really physical at the point of the catch.

If you want a Hill or CHase or Jefferson, you either take them really high in the draft, you pay one alot after you trade for him, or you develop a guy into that.

PatMahomesIsGod 04-26-2024 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17497197)
One of the PFF guys thinks he looks like Jordan Addison

Wouldn’t hate that.

Mile High Mania 04-26-2024 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17497199)
If you want a Hill or CHase or Jefferson, you either take them really high in the draft, you pay one alot after you trade for him, or you develop a guy into that.

Or, you don’t let Hill go.

Chieftain 04-26-2024 07:24 AM

Chris Clark, who is a good football mind, although boring to listen to, made a very good point in saying that he didn't think the Worthy pick was a reach from the sense that only 20 something players in the draft were true 1st rounders. But Worthy was a consensus 2nd rounder, top 10 in that round. He really likes the pick and he is normally very critical and logical with a lot of his takes.

And later listening to Andy's presser, it seems the niners were aiming to pick him at 31 so he felt Veach needed to make that jump. Then, Lynch panicked and drafted Pearsall instead.

If healthy, this kid can produce. He is obviously more talented than Hardman and seems intelligent to add to his athleticism.
But the thin frame is a big question mark.

tredadda 04-26-2024 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17496859)
His route running and pure WR skills are better than Tyreek's were coming out.

Remember it took Tyreek a full year.

They should be better considering that he's a WR and Tyreek was a RB.

PatMahomesIsGod 04-26-2024 07:25 AM

I like it.

Speed kills. Just ask Henry Ruggs.

duncan_idaho 04-26-2024 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17497092)
Sure, but having Mahomes isn't an excuse, or even worse, a reason, to have a bunch of scrubs at WR.

We have Hollywood, RR, and now Worthy. Everyone else is a JAG. Not just JAGs, but bottom barrel JAGs.

Eventually, I will find the podcast clip of Mahomes saying he has always wanted a jump ball receiver, and for me, we need a receiver that can't be taken out of the game easily with physical defensive play.

Sure, Worthy and Hollywood are fast, but let's be real, LJ Snead will maul them at the LOS, and they aren't nearly the receivers that Hill, Chase, Jefferson, etc. are, and Sneed shut them down by being physical.

This is one of the reasons I really want Brenden Rice. He is very big, very physical, and played with Caleb Williams.

Right now, the only player we have that has proven he can match physicality is Travis Kelce. Irv Smith Jr., Blake Bell, and Noah Gray aren't really physical at the point of the catch.

Do you realize how ridiculous it is to say "Other than three guys, the WR is trash" - especially when you have Travis Kelce at TE?

How deep do you think NFL WRs are? Other than the Green Bay Packers, who out there has depth beyond WR1-3 where you're really like "Ooooh, that guy is nasty?"

Rausch 04-26-2024 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17497225)
Do you realize how ridiculous it is to say "Other than three guys, the WR is trash" - especially when you have Travis Kelce at TE?

How deep do you think NFL WRs are? Other than the Green Bay Packers, who out there has depth beyond WR1-3 where you're really like "Ooooh, that guy is nasty?"

They're also the same jags we won the super bowl with last year, so...

RedRaider56 04-26-2024 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17497174)
I noticed this when I was watching his clips. The Texas QB has a weak arm.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Xavier Worthy led college football in &quot;Wide open downfield and his QB couldn&#39;t get it there&quot; plays. <br><br>That, uh, won&#39;t be a problem anymore.</p>&mdash; Chris Vannini (@ChrisVannini) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1783700582684869052?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 26, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

that's why all the Whoren fans are salivating over Arch Manning. They were not happy that Ewers came back

crispystl 04-26-2024 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17496693)
It will be interesting to see how this trade works out for both sides. I assume Buffalo will be grabbing a receiver with the #33 pick. They’ll be forever compared to each other. I can’t believe the Bills were willing to do any trade with the Chiefs.

Me either. I was absolutely shocked.
Man, if this guy has a great career and their pick busts it's just going to add to the lore LOL.
They'll REALLY hate us then.

Kman34 04-26-2024 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17496849)
jesus christ LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">X makes it look easy ��<a href="https://twitter.com/XavierWorthy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@XavierWorthy</a> x <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> <a href="https://t.co/IKEyIp1EES">pic.twitter.com/IKEyIp1EES</a></p>&mdash; Texas Football (@TexasFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/TexasFootball/status/1782942956363657536?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 24, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The thing I noticed about these highlights is that the DBs never touch him.. It’s like running routes against air.. That won’t happen in the NFL.. If he can get off jams he will be a stud..

Rausch 04-26-2024 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 17497241)
Me either. I was absolutely shocked.
Man, if this guy has a great career and their pick busts it's just going to add to the lore LOL.
They'll REALLY hate us then.

They gift wrapped us Mahomes and now they've done the same for our new Hill.

It's gotta' be frustrating...

RealSNR 04-26-2024 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17497207)
Or, you don’t let Hill go.

We don't win Super Bowls without trading Hill away, dingus

ptlyon 04-26-2024 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17497242)
The thing I noticed about these highlights is that it's against Kansas state, which never should count.

.

Monticore 04-26-2024 07:45 AM

I noticed a lot of body catches in those videos how reliable are his hands?

bigjosh 04-26-2024 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17497272)
I noticed a lot of body catches in those videos how reliable are his hands?


We had a guy that used to do that alot. He was also pretty fast.


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Fat Elvis 04-26-2024 07:49 AM

What I find really strange is that Buffalo would agree to trade with us after telling Stephon Diggs that he could seek a trade anywhere except KC.

I can't help but imagine that Veach was wearing some kind of corny fake mustache as a disguise when he called the Bills front office about the trade.

Veach: Uh, Brandon, this is, uh, Bart, yeah, Bart. How would like to get ahold of some of KC's draft picks?

Beane: Are you sure you aren't Brett Veach?

Veach: Uh, yeah, sure, I'm *Bart*, not Brett...I found a stash of KC picks that a team from Missouri got...so you know it isn't the Chiefs because they are in *Kansas* City.

Beane: Oh, yeah, yeah...Cardinals, man...

Veach: Yeah, Cardinals...from St. Louis. They got some of KC's picks and are looking to trade them.

Beane: Go on...I'm interested....

Mile High Mania 04-26-2024 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17497249)
We don't win Super Bowls without trading Hill away, dingus

Settle.. merely replying to a comment made about how you get a guy like Hill.

I said this when they traded him and it’s proving out. They don’t need that killer WR1 in this system. They need a couple of strong WR2 types as long as Kelce is doing his thing. When does KC plan for his replacement?

Graystoke 04-26-2024 07:53 AM

Blows my mind the Bills traded with us.
Pretty much a guarantee this kid is going to be a hall of famer.


TO THE SHIP FOLKS!

O.city 04-26-2024 07:59 AM

Buffalo is doing what the Chiefs did in 22. They're gonna go heavy on defense and cobble together the WR group.

KCUnited 04-26-2024 08:00 AM

Maybe its because he's making the pick today but some of these reels look like the WR version of Jamaal Charles with his easy almost effortless speed

TripleThreat 04-26-2024 08:01 AM

Seen some mocks where Xavier was projected to go top 20, so seems like we got a steal?

Easy 6 04-26-2024 08:01 AM

The Legion of Zoom is BACK, ya gotta love it

Monticore 04-26-2024 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17497278)
We had a guy that used to do that alot. He was also pretty fast.


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That guy didn’t have to most reliable hands on either and deflected a few insults o the other teams hands.

Lzen 04-26-2024 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17496248)
Third time Veach has drafted poorly in the 1st round. I am not a fan of Worthy whatsoever. Stupid pick and even more stupid, having to trade up for it when he would've been available at 32.

I truly hope this guy turns out to be a stud because it will be fun coming back to this post.

I am curious, though, which other 1st round picks do you feel that Veach drafted poorly?

duncan_idaho 04-26-2024 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17497242)
The thing I noticed about these highlights is that the DBs never touch him.. It’s like running routes against air.. That won’t happen in the NFL.. If he can get off jams he will be a stud..

Yeah, it's one thing to say "He's 165 pounds, just jam him at the line of scrimmage" but if you take that shot, you better not miss.

He's got good route-running chops and tracks the ball well downfield to boot. He's going to create so much separation, and you know Reid is going to scheme him open (I imagine he's playing the dust off the "Tyreek Hill/DeSean Jackson" portion of the playbook).

Lzen 04-26-2024 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17496288)
Meh.

Hopefully he isn't used as a Nagy gadget slot.


Passed on an alpha and McConk.

We don't scout WR's well.

Mecole was mostly a gadget player, yes. But he was more of an emergency plan.

And yeah, Skyye was a head scratcher.

Rice turned out to be a great pick last year.

Not sure where you're getting this. None of these players or situations were the same.

bigjosh 04-26-2024 08:07 AM

Not sure if this has been posted. Lmao
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FloridaMan88 04-26-2024 08:11 AM

The entire league had a trade embargo vs the Chiefs and the Bills choked and blew it… Buffalo delivers again.

The Franchise 04-26-2024 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17497056)
Xavier Worthy needs a nickname.

Hear me out guys….


X-Factor.


We take it back.

wazu 04-26-2024 08:12 AM

The fact that the Chiefs traded up for him does mean a lot to me. I seem to remember them saying something like there were only 16 or 17 guys they had graded first round, so this would mean Worthy was clearly in that list. I'm backing off of my "shoulda just waited and drafted Adonai" feeling.

MahomesMagic 04-26-2024 08:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17496800)
He was SO sure the NFL would prove him right and Mitchell would come off the board after the "underwear Olympics" as he calls them LMAO

Pretty stupid take when the NFL took Reagor and Ruggs over Justin Jefferson.

I preferred Jefferson over Ruggs and I was right.

Didn’t hate Ruggs. Just like I don’t hate Worthy. Just prefer a 1 to a 2.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-26-2024 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh (Post 17497309)
Not sure if this has been posted. Lmao
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I feel for the guy, this is the second time the Chiefs have cast him aside.

That said, I'm not really sure what he thought was going to happen? I mean, he made a couple nice plays down the stretch but he is who he is.

Thanks for everything, Mecole. You're a legend and champion forever.

duncan_idaho 04-26-2024 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17497305)
Mecole was mostly a gadget player, yes. But he was more of an emergency plan.

And yeah, Skyye was a head scratcher.

Rice turned out to be a great pick last year.

Not sure where you're getting this. None of these players or situations were the same.

He's been doing this in the draft forum for months now. He's gaga for Mitchell and thinks Worthy is a slot-only gadget guy.

Can't get past his feelings and is a card-carrying member of the "Chiefs can't draft WRs club" despite evidence to the contrary.

MahomesMagic 04-26-2024 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17497323)
I feel for the guy, this is the second time the Chiefs have cast him aside.

That said, I'm not really sure what he thought was going to happen? I mean, he made a couple nice plays down the stretch but he is who he is.

Thanks for everything, Mecole. You're a legend and champion forever.

I’d still rather have Mecole over Skyy.

So to me it’s if we add more WRs in the draft that decides Mecole potential return.

SHOWTIME 04-26-2024 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chieftain (Post 17496248)
Third time Veach has drafted poorly in the 1st round. I am not a fan of Worthy whatsoever. Stupid pick and even more stupid, having to trade up for it when he would've been available at 32.

Tell me about it. He whiffed with that Mahomes pick in the 1st round too. And how about Karlaftis and McDuffiiie while we're at it...

MahomesMagic 04-26-2024 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17497327)
He's been doing this in the draft forum for months now. He's gaga for Mitchell and thinks Worthy is a slot-only gadget guy.

Can't get past his feelings and is a card-carrying member of the "Chiefs can't draft WRs club" despite evidence to the contrary.

Completely wrong. You aren’t comprehending the arguments well.

I hate the idea of Worthy as a gadget. Prefer him as vertical 2 decoy.

Sofa King 04-26-2024 08:21 AM

Bring back Mecole, get rid of Moore and Ross

843GTYellowJacket 04-26-2024 08:21 AM

We're just fans. NFL personnel know a lot more than what we see. There's a reason why AD Mitchell got passed on by multiple teams. I've heard that he has issues with work ethic. Additionally, he has a medical condition that causes him to have mood swings.

Don't forget that AD was at Georgia. No one knew anything about him until he went to Texas. Why? At Georgia, the pass catcher room included Brock Bowers, McConkey, George Pickens...

CupidStunt 04-26-2024 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17497242)
The thing I noticed about these highlights is that the DBs never touch him.. It’s like running routes against air.. That won’t happen in the NFL.. If he can get off jams he will be a stud..

No one is pressing KC next year. It's back to full zone coverage and safeties being 30 yards deep.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-26-2024 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Womble (Post 17496300)
He's quicker than Tyreek. Less of the woman beating too!

Did your cat survive the hugs of happiness! This is going to be a fun offense!

MahomesMagic 04-26-2024 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 17497342)
No one is pressing KC next year. It's back to full zone coverage and safeties being 30 yards deep.

Correct.

Safeties are now back. Offense will now get to efficiently murder people short and middle.

DaFace 04-26-2024 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17497346)
Correct.

Safeties are now back. Offense will now get to efficiently murder people short and middle.

I'm almost as excited to see what this will do to Kelce's game as I am to see what Worthy himself can do.

The Franchise 04-26-2024 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17497351)
I'm almost as excited to see what this will do to Kelce's game as I am to see what Worthy himself can do.

That with an evolved Mahomes? Shit.

Back when we had Tyreek...he was always looking for the kill shot. Now he's learned to take what the defense gives him and there's about to be a lot more to take underneath.

Lzen 04-26-2024 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17496764)
Just gonna say…..

Jeremy Maclin:
6ft 200
4.43 40
Rasheed Rice:
6’1 205
4.51 40

DeSean Jackson:
5’10 170
4.35 40
Xavier Worthy:
5’11 165
4.21 40

Rashee, not Rasheed

digger 04-26-2024 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17497317)
Hear me out guys….


X-Factor.


We take it back.


No way...


X-Force, X-Wing, Downtown...

MahomesMagic 04-26-2024 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 17497351)
I'm almost as excited to see what this will do to Kelce's game as I am to see what Worthy himself can do.

A pass to Rice that went for 5 now goes 8 to 12 yards.

A pass to Kelce that went for 7 last year now goes for 10 or more.



I do want to get another WR to load manage Rice because we need him for the playoffs. Another big body guy who can catch and run.

Rausch 04-26-2024 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digger (Post 17497355)
No way...


X-Force, X-Wing, Downtown...

For Mahomes it's ****ing X-Mas....

Rausch 04-26-2024 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17497357)
A pass to Rice that went for 5 now goes 8 to 12 yards.

A pass to Kelce that went for 7 last year now goes for 10 or more.



I do want to get another WR to load manage Rice because we need him for the playoffs. Another big body guy who can catch and run.

I'm not a fan of the HB's this year but grabbing another guy in rounds 5-7 to load share with Pacheco would also be nice. A bigger sized guy to pound out games and wins now that we have a defense again...

Sofa King 04-26-2024 08:37 AM

Be nice to draft another RB. With the DB's backing up to cover these fast guys our RB's should feast too.

LT in round 2 then BPA after that. Day 3 is going to be a blast!

Marcellus 04-26-2024 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 17497207)
Or, you don’t let Hill go.

That trade helped us win 2 more SB's.

Lzen 04-26-2024 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptlyon (Post 17497253)
.

:LOL:

There were plenty of other ones, as well, including twice against Alabama.

The one against KSU that really gets me is how they didn't have him doubled outside/inside. He just had free reign to fake inside and quick twitch the outside and be wide open.

MahomesMagic 04-26-2024 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17497360)
I'm not a fan of the HB's this year but grabbing another guy in rounds 5-7 to load share with Pacheco would also be nice. A bigger sized guy to pound out games and wins now that we have a defense again...

I love Benson this year. Would be pumped if we landed him.

Rausch 04-26-2024 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17497362)
Be nice to draft another RB. With the DB's backing up to cover these fast guys our RB's should feast too.

LT in round 2 then BPA after that. Day 3 is going to be a blast!

I so bad want us to snag a guy with size to punish all these nickel defenses we'll face. Just a ****ing punisher to save wear and tear on Pacheco...

Marcellus 04-26-2024 08:42 AM

I saw somewhere that only 2 or so of the last 35 WR taken in round 1 have busted?

MahomesMagic 04-26-2024 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 17497377)
I so bad want us to snag a guy with size to punish all these nickel defenses we'll face. Just a ****ing punisher to save wear and tear on Pacheco...

I agree. We need a better backup than CEH. Ceh is fine as the third guy but want someone to destroy the light boxes and keep iPac fresh.

cmh6476 04-26-2024 08:44 AM

I don't know if adopting a chief is still a thing, or if anyone has claimed this dude yet, but I felt like it was time to move on from willie gay PBJ

Rausch 04-26-2024 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17497375)
I love Benson this year. Would be pumped if we landed him.

He runs low with excellent balance.
Hand that guy a year's worth of steak and taters and have him add 10 good pounds to his frame. He'll do...

Lzen 04-26-2024 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17497327)
He's been doing this in the draft forum for months now. He's gaga for Mitchell and thinks Worthy is a slot-only gadget guy.

Can't get past his feelings and is a card-carrying member of the "Chiefs can't draft WRs club" despite evidence to the contrary.

I just hate it when guys whine about a pick without even giving it a chance. If, after a couple of years he has done nothing, then you can complain all you want. I swear, some of these guys are just complete babies. "I didn't get the guy I want so now I'm gonna broadcast that over and over to the forum". :doh!:

Lzen 04-26-2024 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17497333)
Completely wrong. You aren’t comprehending the arguments well.

I hate the idea of Worthy as a gadget. Prefer him as vertical 2 decoy.

How about all of the above plus more?

Rausch 04-26-2024 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17497390)
I just hate it when guys whine about a pick without even giving it a chance. If, after a couple of years he has done nothing, then you can complain all you want. I swear, some of these guys are just complete babies. "I didn't get the guy I want so now I'm gonna broadcast that over and over to the forum". :doh!:

We've won 3 of the last 5 Super Bowls.

At this point yer' just the guy at the wedding complaining about the free beer. Shut the **** up and enjoy the moment...

Lzen 04-26-2024 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CupidStunt (Post 17497342)
No one is pressing KC next year. It's back to full zone coverage and safeties being 30 yards deep.

I would imagine so, yes. I don't think most teams will risk man coverage now with all the speed the Chiefs have once again.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-26-2024 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17496461)
Tank dell - combine 5'8" 165 lbs
Zay flowers - combine 5'9" 180 lbs
Devonta smith - combine 6'1" 170 lbs

Give that kid in the weight room. Tell him he's no longer trying to break sprint records. And LFG!

and he doesn't turn 21 until this weekend.

Rausch 04-26-2024 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17497397)
I would imagine so, yes. I don't think most teams will risk man coverage now with all the speed the Chiefs have once again.

Losing teams will...

el borracho 04-26-2024 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by digger (Post 17497355)
No way...


X-Force, X-Wing, Downtown...

Professor X

Mile High Mania 04-26-2024 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17497390)
I just hate it when guys whine about a pick without even giving it a chance. If, after a couple of years he has done nothing, then you can complain all you want. I swear, some of these guys are just complete babies. "I didn't get the guy I want so now I'm gonna broadcast that over and over to the forum". :doh!:

I think it was a solid pick for the style of offense KC runs. WRs have a great track record of success more consistently in recent years coming out of the draft. Draft a top WR every 2 years and when a guy hits that next big contract, let him go and pull up the next guy.

Lzen 04-26-2024 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17497357)
A pass to Rice that went for 5 now goes 8 to 12 yards.

A pass to Kelce that went for 7 last year now goes for 10 or more.



I do want to get another WR to load manage Rice because we need him for the playoffs. Another big body guy who can catch and run.

Uhh.....that might not be a problem this year.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-26-2024 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17496476)
We gave up 32, 95 and 221 for 28, 133 and 248.

with the deftness Veach has shown in the later rounds it really isn't that big of a deal.

MahomesMagic 04-26-2024 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 17497394)
How about all of the above plus more?

I think Worthy’s value is as a vertical 2.

He helps us more that way. Hopefully we see less gadget stuff now because we actually have real NFL WRs again.


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