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htismaqe 04-03-2023 10:59 AM

ROFL

It has to be racist!

After all, it was Clark (and I'm a Hawkeye fan) that first threw that shade at SC. Anybody that is following this and is reasonable at all understands what happened and WHY it happened.

It's a complete nothing-burger - players trash talk all the time. I had to remind Chiefs fans on FB that even Mahomes talks trash like that - remember the 4 finger deal?

Clark started it (and I still think she's awesome) and LSU responded in kind. This is big time sports and they're going to act like big time players.

penguinz 04-03-2023 11:06 AM

Female athletes showing this kind of emotion and trash talking is what it will take to get more eyes on their sports.

If you think this is a race issue then you are part of the problem.

ToxSocks 04-03-2023 11:08 AM

Good for these girls. This might be the height of women's college sports as we're just a few years away from trannies coming in and dunking on all of them. Poor girls gonna get posterized with tranny balls to the face.

UChieffyBugger 04-03-2023 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16887492)
She’s going to the wnba where she blends in with the rest of the stars there. She’s not going to differentiate from a diana taurasi or breanna Stewart. Which means barely marketable. Got nothing against her but she’s going to become just another wnba player in a couple of years. The hype around Clarke is something the sport hasn’t seen much of and there actually might be some staying power to it.

Angel already has a huge following behind her and that's only going to grow because of her personality. She could be similar to Rodman with better scoring imo. Clark is talented but one could argue that she's not even the best white prospect in women's college basketball because Paige Bueckers is a huge talent in her own right and has beaten Clark in a head to head matchup before.

ToxSocks 04-03-2023 11:13 AM

Seems like the conclusion im drawing here is that Clark does for women's basketball what Jake Paul does for boxing.

tredadda 04-03-2023 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16887520)
Angel already has a huge following behind her and that's only going to grow because of her personality. She could be similar to Rodman with better scoring imo. Clark is talented but one could argue that she's not even the best white prospect in women's college basketball because Paige Bueckers is a huge talent in her own right and has beaten Clark in a head to head matchup before.

It will be interesting to see if her growing popularity translates to the WNBA because professional women's sports struggle to draw an audience. Perhaps it will and be a catalyst for improving WNBA viewership. I do know a lot of the USWNT players are well known, but if you polled anyone besides the most diehard women's soccer fans they could not tell you what professional team they play for.

tredadda 04-03-2023 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16887507)
ROFL

It has to be racist!

After all, it was Clark (and I'm a Hawkeye fan) that first threw that shade at SC. Anybody that is following this and is reasonable at all understands what happened and WHY it happened.

It's a complete nothing-burger - players trash talk all the time. I had to remind Chiefs fans on FB that even Mahomes talks trash like that - remember the 4 finger deal?

Clark started it (and I still think she's awesome) and LSU responded in kind. This is big time sports and they're going to act like big time players.

All of this. Also let's not forget Mahomes counting to ten after a TD throw in Chicago a few years back. I guess I am struggling to see what the big deal is with what that LSU player did.

The Franchise 04-03-2023 11:20 AM

If Mahomes wasn't a Chief...you'd have half of the people in this thread pissed at him because he needs to "shut up and just play football".

wazu 04-03-2023 11:21 AM

Sorry, but nothing Mahomes has done in the field of trash talk compares. Maybe if after the Super Bowl he ran up to Jalen Hurts and shoved his ring finger in Jalen's face. But he didn't, because that would be classless.

penguinz 04-03-2023 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16887540)
Sorry, but nothing Mahomes has done in the field of trash talk compares. Maybe if after the Super Bowl he ran up to Jalen Hurts and shoved his ring finger in Jalen's face. But he didn't, because that would be classless.

BS, What Mahomes does is exactly the same. If any other player did the same thing on the field and did not wear a chiefs uniform people would bitch about his cockiness as well.

htismaqe 04-03-2023 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16887540)
Sorry, but nothing Mahomes has done in the field of trash talk compares. Maybe if after the Super Bowl he ran up to Jalen Hurts and shoved his ring finger in Jalen's face. But he didn't, because that would be classless.

"Burrowhead my ass!"

The Franchise 04-03-2023 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16887545)
"Burrowhead my ass!"

That was Kelce but it's the same thing. I wonder why Kelce doesn't catch hate? I wonder.....

staylor26 04-03-2023 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16887546)
That was Kelce but it's the same thing. I wonder why Kelce doesn't catch hate? I wonder.....

Maybe not from Chiefs fans, but to be fair, he definitely caught hate nationally.

Ultimately, I don't have a problem with the taunting stuff, but it was definitely a step above a lot of the comparisons people are making here.

staylor26 04-03-2023 11:33 AM

The best comparison for what happened in this situation was what Antoine Winfield did to Tyreek.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-03-2023 11:41 AM

ESPN just released an article saying it is a race issue.

Rain Man 04-03-2023 11:42 AM

I bet she could take Floyd Mayweather in a fight.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-03-2023 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16887546)
That was Kelce but it's the same thing. I wonder why Kelce doesn't catch hate? I wonder.....

Kelce got roasted nationally.

But the Bengals opened that door by saying Burrowhead. So I didn't care if he celebrated.

But following a player around the court is just bizarre behavior.

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16887554)
The best comparison for what happened in this situation was what Antoine Winfield did to Tyreek.

Still a bad comparison because there was still more than 3 minutes left in the game.

Reese did it with 10 seconds left.

I have no problem with it but get why people would be annoyed given the timing. Winners get to write the rules, though.

staylor26 04-03-2023 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887566)
Still a bad comparison because there was still more than 3 minutes left in the game.

Reese did it with 10 seconds left.

I have no problem with it but get why people would be annoyed given the timing. Winners get to write the rules, though.

LMAO

I'm talking about the act. Who gives a **** how much time was left in the game?

alpha_omega 04-03-2023 11:46 AM

400+ posts on women's college basketball?
CP is softening.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-03-2023 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887566)
Still a bad comparison because there was still more than 3 minutes left in the game.

Reese did it with 10 seconds left.

I have no problem with it but get why people would be annoyed given the timing. Winners get to write the rules, though.

For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name, He writes—not that you won or lost—but how you played the Game.

Grantland Rice

Class is a lost art in today's athletics.

golfindude 04-03-2023 11:51 AM

Is there a video clip that shows Caitlin in the face 'taunting' an opponent AFTER Iowa wins a game ?

wazu 04-03-2023 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16887554)
The best comparison for what happened in this situation was what Antoine Winfield did to Tyreek.

Most comparable thing I can think of is what Juju did on Twitter, unfortunately.

BigCatDaddy 04-03-2023 11:52 AM

Wasn't this Angel chick the one bitching about Iowa not respecting SC? Yeah...that's all just a random gripe and nothing about race......

staylor26 04-03-2023 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 16887585)
Most comparable thing I can think of is what Juju did on Twitter, unfortunately.

Eh, I will say this though, Chiefs fans mostly agreed that he took it too far.

I don't think this was as bad, but it was definitely borderline.

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16887570)
LMAO

I'm talking about the act. Who gives a **** how much time was left in the game?

It still gives her sometime to respond, in addition to the fact Clark wasn't facing Reese at all, unlike Hill and Winfield.

I don't give a shit that she did it or not. She won. She didn't hurt anyone.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 16887573)
For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name, He writes—not that you won or lost—but how you played the Game.

Grantland Rice

Class is a lost art in today's athletics.

It was never there to begin with?

I don't care about athletes being classy or not. I care if they win, are not convicts or total pieces of shit (e.g., using slurs) towards others.

It's fine if an athlete is like Mahomes. It's OK if they're like Deion Sanders, too, as long their play backs up what they say.

CasselGotPeedOn 04-03-2023 11:56 AM

Yeah it's totally a race issue and not because of how long the LSU player did it for...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;But they did the same thing!&quot;<br><br>-brain dead people <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WFinalFour?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WFinalFour</a> <a href="https://t.co/Fn9XLrPtk6">pic.twitter.com/Fn9XLrPtk6</a></p>&mdash; Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente) <a href="https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1642685403055439872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

chiefzilla1501 04-03-2023 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfindude (Post 16887583)
Is there a video clip that shows Caitlin in the face 'taunting' an opponent AFTER Iowa wins a game ?

She had someone at Louisville talk trash to her and jawed back (to a white girl) with “you’re down 15, shut up. I thought the lsu player was excessive with it but they both do it and they both receive it.

AdolfOliverBush 04-03-2023 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 16887519)
Good for these girls. This might be the height of women's college sports as we're just a few years away from trannies coming in and dunking on all of them. Poor girls gonna get posterized with tranny balls to the face.

That's about the only thing that could make the WNBA watchable...Shaqira O'Neal ripping the rim off, or Ja'Quelyn Morant posterizing bitches.

staylor26 04-03-2023 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 16887597)
Yeah it's totally a race issue and not because of how long the LSU player did it for...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;But they did the same thing!&quot;<br><br>-brain dead people <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WFinalFour?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WFinalFour</a> <a href="https://t.co/Fn9XLrPtk6">pic.twitter.com/Fn9XLrPtk6</a></p>&mdash; Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente) <a href="https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1642685403055439872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I didn't realize she followed her around like that. Yea, I'm sorry, but if you're saying this is the "same thing", you're just being dishonest.

BigCatDaddy 04-03-2023 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CasselGotPeedOn (Post 16887597)
Yeah it's totally a race issue and not because of how long the LSU player did it for...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">&quot;But they did the same thing!&quot;<br><br>-brain dead people <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/WFinalFour?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#WFinalFour</a> <a href="https://t.co/Fn9XLrPtk6">pic.twitter.com/Fn9XLrPtk6</a></p>&mdash; Dave Portnoy (@stoolpresidente) <a href="https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1642685403055439872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 3, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Big Dave shutting down the BS.

ThaVirus 04-03-2023 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16887415)
Yeah, it pretty much is.

The eye lash girl was mad the white girls beat SC. I'm sure their was a lot of jealousy about how popular Caitlin was becoming in a sport typically dominated by African Americans.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 16887421)
The unspoken truth that no one wants to admit.

I do find it hilarious that the same people crying about people crying about racism also cry about racism.

You and Reese are a lot more alike than you think.

Iowanian 04-03-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 16887478)
Lol Angel is younger than Clark, is a defensive powerhouse, has goat potential as a rebounder and is getting buckets on the other end too so if you haters think she is gonna disappear after whooping Clark's ass you're fooling yourselves ROFL

If that's the case, why was it the points from Ronald McDonald dropping 3s from the bench that won the game? It wasn't her. She sure didn't dominate that game the way Clark did in the elite 8 and final 4 games. She also has 2 years left.

LSU won by enough points that they deserve credit for the win.

People saw what they saw and are entitled to have beliefs about how the LSU carried itself on the floor.

Hammock Parties 04-03-2023 12:25 PM

I'm hoping she marries into the Hunt family now so her full name can be Caitlin Clark Hunt

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16887631)
I'm hoping she marries into the Hunt family now so her full name can be Caitlin Clark Hunt

This has been the best post of the thread.

golfindude 04-03-2023 12:48 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMs2FC4ImIY

KC_Connection 04-03-2023 12:48 PM

It is absolutely bizarre to me that anybody would be bitching this hard about some girl trash talking a trash talker after winning a championship. Society has gone soft.

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16887663)
It is absolutely bizarre to me that anybody would be bitching this hard about some girl trash talking a trash talker after winning a championship. Society has gone soft.

It’s as bizarre as people bitching about billionaires subsidizing a league.

ToxSocks 04-03-2023 12:52 PM

Meh, it's sports. And even further than that, it's hoops.

I couldn't give any less of a **** about trash talking on the court. Sports need a little drama. Especially for a sport that gets zero attention, ever.

Hammock Parties 04-03-2023 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887666)
It’s as bizarre as people bitching about billionaires subsidizing a league.

the most bizarre thing in this thread is people stumping for the WNBA ROFL

you bring up BS around here you get called on it, deal with it cupcake

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16887670)
the most bizarre thing in this thread is people stumping for the WNBA ROFL

you bring up BS around here you get called on it, deal with it cupcake

This is basically you and everyone complaining about how billionaires spend their money on a league that doesn't cause any harm or burden to others.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...19/304/old.jpg

BigCatDaddy 04-03-2023 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887683)
This is basically you and everyone complaining about how billionaires spend their money on a league that doesn't cause any harm or burden to others.

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/...19/304/old.jpg

It's fine if they play but don't bitch if nobody watches and you make peanuts.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-03-2023 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16887684)
It's fine if they play but don't bitch if nobody watches and you make peanuts.

And that is the problem. The narrative is pushed upon people: watch us or you are a sexist.

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy (Post 16887684)
It's fine if they play but don't bitch if nobody watches and you make peanuts.

I agree, I do think it's a silly argument for WNBA players demanding to be paid comparably to NBA players. They don't draw nearly the same revenue.

I also think it's stupid that the WNBA until recently fined teams for chartering private flights.

I don't give a shit if anyone watches the WNBA or not. You or anyone else has the choice not to. But bitching about how people spend their own private money on a league that no one forces anyone to watch is stupid.

Hammock Parties 04-03-2023 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887683)
This is basically you and everyone complaining about how billionaires spend their money on a league that doesn't cause any harm or burden to others.

I'm not complaining. You have your head way up your ass though. We're just trying to remove it for you.

ARROW2 04-03-2023 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 16887263)
No. She just looks like Ben Stiller.



LOL. So you agree she looks mannish.....The caping for her is funny though.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-03-2023 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16887706)
I'm not complaining. You have your head way up your ass though. We're just trying to remove it for you.

The willfully blind always refuse to see.

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16887706)
I'm not complaining. You have your head way up your ass though. We're just trying to remove it for you.

This is your post on the matter.

You're literally bitching about it because you don't like it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16886831)
average attendance for a WNBA game is about 5k and that's being generous

the league is subsidized by the NBA to stay afloat

it's nothing more than a grift for feminists with delusions of grandeur

one player ain't saving shit


jd1020 04-03-2023 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887692)
I agree, I do think it's a silly argument for WNBA players demanding to be paid comparably to NBA players. They don't draw nearly the same revenue.

Pretty sure on a percentage of revenue basis the women actually make more than the men, same goes for the USA womens soccer team. And they are still bitching about making less than men. It's just plain toxic feminism and very few have the balls to spit it out for fear of being cancelled. They would be much better off asking the question "why?" and taking accountability, but they just want more handouts. Might even draw in more fans if they weren't nagging bitches.

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16887726)
Pretty sure on a percentage of revenue basis the women actually make more than the men, same goes for the USA womens soccer team. And they are still bitching about making less than men. It's just plain toxic feminism and very few have the balls to spit it out for fear of being cancelled. They would be much better off asking the question "why?" and taking accountability, but they just want more handouts. Might even draw in more fans if they weren't nagging bitches.

I think USA women's soccer team argument is a bit different, though. Men got paid way more and have performed way worse internationally while women got paid nothing or way less if they advanced or won more games or won the World Cup.

DJ's left nut 04-03-2023 01:28 PM

Anyone point out that it was kindof a bitchmade move to wait until after the game was decided to start throwing shade? I suspect someone has.

Because it was.

I don't suspect they were talking trash when she was about to shoot them back into that thing.

Then again - this is essentially mid-tier boys HS basketball so WTF do I care?

jd1020 04-03-2023 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887731)
I think USA women's soccer team argument is a bit different, though. Men got paid way more and have performed way worse internationally while women got paid nothing or way less if they advanced or won more games or won the World Cup.

How is it different? Womens soccer doesn't bring in anywhere close to the same amount of money as mens soccer. It doesn't matter how much better they are in their sport, they still only bring in a fraction of the money.

DJ's left nut 04-03-2023 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887731)
I think USA women's soccer team argument is a bit different, though. Men got paid way more and have performed way worse internationally while women got paid nothing or way less if they advanced or won more games or won the World Cup.

So what?

Have you size the prize pool for the women's world cup vs. the men's?

The size of the slice in question barely matters when the difference in the size of the pie is as extreme as it. Women don't even watch women's sports - it's a non-starter of an 'argument'.

DJ's left nut 04-03-2023 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16887736)
How is it different? Womens soccer doesn't bring in anywhere close to the same amount of money as mens soccer. It doesn't matter how much better they are in their sport, they still only bring in a fraction of the money.

Greatest curlers in the world, men or women, don't make near as much as your worst NFL players.

IT'S BULLSHIT!

And folks, women's basketball/soccer aren't that much less further removed from the men's product than curling is to football. They're barely the same sport.

BleedingRed 04-03-2023 01:32 PM

I didn't have this thread on my Offseason Bingo card....... Its actually pretty good now

jd1020 04-03-2023 01:32 PM

The mens world cup brought in 6 billion dollars. The womens world cup brought in 131 million. Tell me, who should be paid more?

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 16887736)
How is it different? Womens soccer doesn't bring in anywhere close to the same amount of money as mens soccer. It doesn't matter how much better they are in their sport, they still only bring in a fraction of the money.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16887737)
So what?

Have you size the prize pool for the women's world cup vs. the men's?

The size of the slice in question barely matters when the difference in the size of the pie is as extreme as it. Women don't even watch women's sports - it's a non-starter of an 'argument'.

International teams are rewarded based on their performance. Men were getting paid while losing and women were not getting paid anything while winning and going further.

Not saying it should be 1 to 1, but the difference shouldn't be that dramatic.

chiefzilla1501 04-03-2023 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887731)
I think USA women's soccer team argument is a bit different, though. Men got paid way more and have performed way worse internationally while women got paid nothing or way less if they advanced or won more games or won the World Cup.

Yeah, I’m not buying into that although I do think women were grossly underpaid compared to how much they’ve rolled in. But without a doubt equal pay is ludicrous given the revenue streams for each sport not to mention the competition for good players who are getting paid bajillions in europe.

They have a better argument but it’s not that compelling. Their superstars like Alex Morgan are doing more than fine with all the sponsorship $ they’re raking in.

For the wnba it’s not even a conversation.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-03-2023 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887731)
I think USA women's soccer team argument is a bit different, though. Men got paid way more and have performed way worse internationally while women got paid nothing or way less if they advanced or won more games or won the World Cup.

No, it is not.

The men's team generated the most money. They deserved to be paid more. The women's team wanted more money despite not financially earning it.

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 16887749)
No, it is not.

The men's team generated the most money. They deserved to be paid more. The women's team wanted more money despite not financially earning it.

Did you completely ignore what I said?

I never said men shouldn’t have been paid more. Just that women’s national team was underpaid based on the standards used for compensating men.

Not remotely the same discussion as WNBA.

Buehler445 04-03-2023 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16887663)
It is absolutely bizarre to me that anybody would be bitching this hard about some girl trash talking a trash talker after winning a championship. Society has gone soft.

Exactly this. There is like 300 posts about a little bit of trash talk. I kept reading, thinking I would get to something worth posting 300 times about. Nope. Just a little bit of smack.

****ing insanity.

penguinz 04-03-2023 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887743)
International teams are rewarded based on their performance. Men were getting paid while losing and women were not getting paid anything while winning and going further.

Not saying it should be 1 to 1, but the difference shouldn't be that dramatic.

The USMNT still generated significantly more $ than the USWNT.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-03-2023 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887752)
Did you completely ignore what I said?

I never said men shouldn’t have been paid more. Just that women’s national team was underpaid based on the standards used for compensating men.

Not remotely the same discussion as WNBA.

The men's team actually faces tough competition. The women's team plays a pushover schedule.

Even so, the men generate more money. They should be compensated at a higher rate.

Hammock Parties 04-03-2023 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887720)
This is your post on the matter.

You're literally bitching about it because you don't like it.

False.

I was answering the notion that Caitlin could save the WNBA.

Ain't happening.

Then you got all uppity and women's lib on us.

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 16887758)
The men's team actually faces tough competition. The women's team plays a pushover schedule.

Even so, the men generate more money. They should be compensated at a higher rate.

I never said they shouldn't be making more than women in this instance.

Just that the women should be getting more for going further and winning.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-03-2023 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16887759)
False.

I was answering the notion that Caitlin could save the WNBA.

Ain't happening.

Then you got all uppity and women's lib on us.

He thinks the players read the board and will reward him for jousting for their honors.

Hammock Parties 04-03-2023 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 16887769)
He thinks the players read the board and will reward him for jousting for their honors.

she's not going to **** you Rams Fan LMAO

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 16887769)
He thinks the players read the board and will reward him for jousting for their honors.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16887772)
she's not going to **** you Rams Fan LMAO

I do OK, thanks though.

DJ's left nut 04-03-2023 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887743)
International teams are rewarded based on their performance. Men were getting paid while losing and women were not getting paid anything while winning and going further.

Not saying it should be 1 to 1, but the difference shouldn't be that dramatic.

The men's world cup generated in excess of $7 billion dollars in revenue.

Women's world generated about $160 million.

Tell me how you're going to iron out that disparity in raw dollars?

Give the last place team in the men's bracket 1% of the winnings and you're talking $75 million to split between it's players. You'd have to give the first place team 50% of the overall pool in the women's bracket to beat that.

So how the hell are you gonna touch that? The numbers simply don't work. I mean kick the numbers around and you're talking a proportional WIN by, what, 3-4 times greater revenue share for the women than the men?

And if you want to talk strict merit, take the worst team in the men's world cup and have them play the USWNT - they'd beat them by double digits.

Men's soccer yields about 4000% more revenue than women's soccer - yes, the differences should absolutely be as dramatic as they are. Truth be told, they should probably be even more extreme.

DJ's left nut 04-03-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887752)
Did you completely ignore what I said?

I never said men shouldn’t have been paid more. Just that women’s national team was underpaid based on the standards used for compensating men.

Not remotely the same discussion as WNBA.

Nope.

Not even close.

They were overpaid if you use the standards for compensating men. 25% of the overall revenue generated by the Women's world cup went into the prize pool. About 6% of the revenue generated by the mens did.

This isn't a makeable argument. Never has been.

jd1020 04-03-2023 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16887738)
Greatest curlers in the world, men or women, don't make near as much as your worst NFL players.

IT'S BULLSHIT!

And folks, women's basketball/soccer aren't that much less further removed from the men's product than curling is to football. They're barely the same sport.

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He seems decent at soccer but is definitely not a pro and isn't even remotely close to giving it everything hes got and he's just embarrassing her. Exhibit A for why no one watches female sports outside of shit like tennis.

The Franchise 04-03-2023 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 16887772)
she's not going to **** you Rams Fan LMAO

Listen to your own advice there, champ.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/show...ht=gracie+hunt

penguinz 04-03-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16887777)
The men's world cup generated in excess of $7 billion dollars in revenue.

Women's world generated about $160 million.

Tell me how you're going to iron out that disparity in raw dollars?

Give the last place team in the men's bracket 1% of the winnings and you're talking $75 million to split between it's players. You'd have to give the first place team 50% of the overall pool in the women's bracket to beat that.

So how the hell are you gonna touch that? The numbers simply don't work. I mean kick the numbers around and you're talking a proportional WIN by, what, 3-4 times greater revenue share for the women than the men?

And if you want to talk strict merit, take the worst team in the men's world cup and have them play the USWNT - they'd beat them by double digits.

Men's soccer yields about 400% more revenue than women's soccer - yes, the differences should absolutely be as dramatic as they are. Truth be told, they should probably be even more extreme.

That would be on an off day for the men as well. Several years ago when the USWNT was playing in KC they played a practice game against the U-16 Sporting Academy team and lost to them by several goals.

If they played the USMNT and both teams played their best possible game it would be double digits by half.

The woman tend to have better technical skills but the lack of speed, size and strength is no match.

Rams Fan 04-03-2023 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16887777)
The men's world cup generated in excess of $7 billion dollars in revenue.

Women's world generated about $160 million.

Tell me how you're going to iron out that disparity in raw dollars?

Give the last place team in the men's bracket 1% of the winnings and you're talking $75 million to split between it's players. You'd have to give the first place team 50% of the overall pool in the women's bracket to beat that.

So how the hell are you gonna touch that? The numbers simply don't work. I mean kick the numbers around and you're talking a proportional WIN by, what, 3-4 times greater revenue share for the women than the men?

And if you want to talk strict merit, take the worst team in the men's world cup and have them play the USWNT - they'd beat them by double digits.

Men's soccer yields about 400% more revenue than women's soccer - yes, the differences should absolutely be as dramatic as they are. Truth be told, they should probably be even more extreme.

The settlement the women’s players agreed with USWNT was to split some of the men’s earnings from the World Cup, which I don’t see an issue with since both are representing the U.S. nationally.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-03-2023 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887774)
I do OK, thanks though.

The Wildcat and Scratch dolls don't count.

BleedingRed 04-03-2023 01:59 PM

WNBA will be all "men" in like 5 years anyways........

penguinz 04-03-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887786)
The settlement the women’s players agreed with USWNT was to split some of the men’s earnings from the World Cup, which I don’t see an issue with since both are representing the U.S. nationally.

So you are 100% on board with universal income.

DJ's left nut 04-03-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 16887786)
The settlement the women’s players agreed with USWNT was to split some of the men’s earnings from the World Cup, which I don’t see an issue with since both are representing the U.S. nationally.

Ah.

So the men should be subsidizing the women.

Why are we talking about fairness then? This isn't fairness - it's simple redistribution.

And again - the mens curling team 'represents the country' - should the Olympic basketball teams be subsidizing their prize pool?

BWillie 04-03-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 16887790)
WNBA will be all "men" in like 5 years anyways........

Has there been a transgender WNBA or D1 player yet?

DJ's left nut 04-03-2023 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 16887785)
The woman tend to have better technical skills but the lack of speed, size and strength is no match.

Hells - something as simple as mere stamina.

You've got Michael Bradley out there running 9 miles per match. A similar woman's player is gonna run about 6. The guys can just cover ground for longer.

And as you noted, because of the speed mismatch, the guys would be able to do more like 10-12 miles at 80% pace while the women are looking at 4-5 trying to go at top speed.

Again - it's barely the same sport.


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