This dude had one heck of a game. Not only did he score a TD with a Mike Edwards/McDuffie assist. He also prevented a long TD early (Cook was the one man standing on the Waddle reverse. Had he misread it by a step Waddle was gone!). He also had the game ending sack. Cook is starting to come into his own!!

Good lord.

Not as fast as some of the Phins this year but 21 MPH is still absurd.

Had no idea Cook was this fast, my goodness.

Should've thrown up the peace sign. That would've been the icing on the icing on the cake there.

Man he was taking some HUGE strides on that return.

Guess we know now why Edwards thought to look for him.

Perfect running form too. Knees to chest.

I don’t think you want to provoke the Cheetah like that.

He might hit you like a pregnant woman or a small child…..

I was disappointed at first that we didn't pick Travis Jones when we picked Cook. Not disappointed anymore. Very solid player who's made some really big plays for us in his season-and-a-half.

Why? I mean, Jones is a decent player and helps to anchor a good defense, but guys like that are fungible. We literally already had a Derrick Nnadi.

Jones is also not even a starter for the Ravens.

Tyreek started to try to chase from out of bounds, saw how fast Cook was moving, and gave up.

You must not have seen him play in college. I have no idea where this "Cook isn't fast" narrative began.

21.31 MPH is a whole different level though. It's right on the fringe of the fastest ball carriers in the league.

Can he catch passes?

He could probably play the Hardman role at least.

It's not just the speed but the acceleration. He got to full speed from a dead stop while everyone else was still looking around.

I know. Only has 20 tackles on the season. I whiffed on that one for sure. That's why In Veach We Trust.

Veach did say that he didn't think Cook would've made it to the end of the 2nd if he tested.

What was the thinking, though? Nnaddi was already on the roster and Cook was a terrific safety prospect we were fortunate was still on the board (IMO).

I hated Nnadi back then (I've warmed slightly, as documented in my posts) and I thought we had a bigger need for a DT than a Safety. I've happily been proven wrong.

Dats what speed do.

https://i.redd.it/3dd7gdhljsyb1.jpg

That is awesome. I was wondering if Next Gen Stats would report on that.

Cook opened up with full speed sprint.

The more you see Cook the more you can see why Juan Thornhill said that he knew he would get best offer from another team because he knew how good and ready Bryan Cook was.

Why would Cook be considered a "reach"?

He was rolling. Looked like Roger Craig running!

Do you even Chiefs Planet, brah? All of the draftabaters are geniouses. [CPS]

Impossible to know how teams saw it, but a lot of people had him below other safeties picked after him and a lot of other guys in other positions.

I was like DJ, I didn't think he was BPA or a huge positional need. I think he's been OK, definitely flashed a bit, but I still think we've a ways to go to start crowning him a major success.

Can he play wr

I mean, I gave my EXACT rationale in this thread. Compared him to Taylor Rapp (who's had a really nice career) and even noted that I could be wrong.

And as the season progressed I posted that I saw areas of improvement that suggested what I saw as poor ball-tracking skills (that I never think improve much at the next level) were probably just inexperience.

I also said that I found it odd that he was our Thornhill replacement unless we were going to get away from some of our single-high looks. And by and large we have done so. But he and Reid as fairly similar players have been able to do some really interesting disguises and matchup flips. Put simply, Spags adjusted his coverage schemes to fit his personnel and its worked out nicely. Also, Edwards being a ball-hawk has allowed us to maintain some of those looks that will put more pressure on a coverage safety even with Cook being a bit more downhill in his approach.

But Pitt's gonna troll because that's all he really has to offer. He damn sure wasn't in here having any conversations in real time. Or, y'know, at any point PRIOR to Cook having the biggest play of his career.

Imagine that! It pisses me off when coaches are so stuck to a scheme that they try to offload/find new players and/or force players into roles that don't fit.

Get well soon buddy

RIP his leg

Looked left ankle. Hope he recovers

Just trying to put the pieces together, and it seems like we might have dodged a bullet. Sure sounds like a high ankle sprain

Um... No.

There's a picture going around I'm not going to post.

It ain't a sprain...

Yep, they did xrays and he's on the sideline... That's at least good news. Maybe get him back for the playoffs.

Seriously??? Jesus.

MRI will determine if ligaments are ripped, but xrays were negative and he's on the sideline.

The photo I saw he'll be lucky to play again. Looked like Gordon Hayward's injury several years ago.

That takes a long time to recover from and he'll never be the same.

I know, when she gave the report i was like... wow, there's a chance...

My thoughts too until I heard the report. If it was that serious he would be at the hospital.

Oof. Yeah his ankle is dislocated.

Did he die?

Just gonna say - that looks real familiar to me.

Ended up with a complete posterior dislocation (plus broken fibula) and a tightrope implant in my ankle for my troubles.

4 months later and it's still stiff and I have a limp here and there. But by all accounts I completely recover after about 9-12 months.

I'd be surprised if that's not what that is. The real question is whether or not there is enough damage to the ligaments to require actual replacement down there. If that syndesmosis went full 'splodey, then it's gonna complicate things but man it takes a lot to pull that off. He may also have some little fractures at the ankle where it kinda 'chipped' as it popped out.

But we shall see.

It’s nasty, look at your discretion


Praying for a full recovery and to see him back on the field.

Yup - that's what I did.

Dislocated ankle, broken fibula, partial reconstruction of the ankle to stabilize.

But what's crazy to me is they had him on the sideline. So they clearly didn't pump him full of ketamine and reduce it. So how'd they'd get it back in place? Maybe he got lucky and it wasn't a full dislocation? Still likely broken fibula at that point and that'll end the season but that's not weight bearing. The recovery will be quick and easy there.

Let’s pray it’s not worse than it looks.

We need him back bad, Edwards was burnt toast tonight

****

I shouldn't have looked.

Yeah, I saw the pic, damn!

I ain't looking. Feel awful for the kid

Edwards is AIDS rn. Dude is suppose to be a ball hawk and wasn't even looking at that floating duck Love heaved out of desperation. That has to be washed up.

I saw Joe Theisman's leg break live. I don't ever want to see anything like that again.

It’s not as bad as the Conner McGregor break I watched in 4K a couple years ago. Awful.

Hope Cook heals and is 💯 asap.

So Connor rotates in at safety?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bryan Cook did not break his ankle as the safety’s x-ray came back negative, per <a href="https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JFowlerESPN</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KCSN?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#KCSN</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/W962KNpPP8">pic.twitter.com/W962KNpPP8</a></p>&mdash; KC Sports Network (@KCSportsNetwork) <a href="https://twitter.com/KCSportsNetwork/status/1731694592813052058?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What the hell? Is he Rubber Man? That picture looked like something from a horror movie.

Maybe a dislocation

If he dislocated it, the odds are still pretty good he'd have some small malleolar fractures right at the edges of the joint that occurred as a result of the displacement as the joint separated. Those may not have shown up on the initial X-Rays; may need swelling to reduce or an MRI for those to surface.

That said, in the grand scheme of things, they're pretty irrelevant.

But ultimately look at it this way, you have a bunch of parts that are REALLY well connected in there. And for a dislocation to occur, you need some part of that mechanism to fail. It could be as 'simple' as the ligaments tearing and the foot just sliding out. It could be a severe sprain that create clearance and then some small fracutres around the joint as the foot comes out. It could be a broken fibula that 'freed' the joint as the rotational torque came through.

If (big if) it dislocated, it's almost certainly just a question of how long the rehab will take and he's going to be out for the year. Because you just can't dislocate a joint that's as tight as that ankle joint without doing some pretty substantial damage to SOMETHING.

Yep, the MRI will tell them more on structure damage, at least no major bone fractures that require plates etc. It could have been really bad. It looked like his cleats just caught as well.

I read a dislocated ankle could take up to 4 to 6 weeks to recover. If that's what it is then that would be massive.

Like I said - depends on the mechanics of the dislocation; what had to 'let go' in order for it to happen.

A severe sprain that doesn't compromise the syndesmosis ligament while creating fairly minor malleolar fractures would be similar to a really bad high ankle sprain. That's probably your best case scenario.

Anything more than that and you're counting months, not weeks.

It would just seem pretty unlikely to me that a professional athlete would have a complete dislocation without compromising the syndesmosis. I don't know how you wrench a foot out of the joint like that without really taxing that ligament, especially if the initial x-rays came back negative. In this case, a break would almost be a good thing because then the bone was the failure point, not a ligament. And the bone would heal faster/easier than the ligament would and with less long-term impact.

I'd have rather heard that the fibula broke, to be honest. That would've been a pretty natural 'release valve' that could've let that foot come out without damaging a ton of the surrounding ligaments. And as a non weight bearing bone, the recovery would be pretty easy.

A reporter at the game said on twitter that he saw Cook on crutches after the game and he had no walking boot on. He was actually wearing his normal shoes apparently.

Right - which is what made me wonder if he even dislocated it. Or at least a complete dislocation.

If you have a complete dislocation, you ain't just popping that ****er back in there. That's going to require, at a minimum, conscious sedation. Granted, you can get from beginning to end of that process in 30 minutes and shake off the cobwebs in another half hour. So maaaaaybe that's what happened?

But does Lambeau have an O.R. in the bowels? Because that's what you'd need for that sort of thing. That sure seems unlikely. And no matter how tough the guy is, surely they wouldn't try to reduce it without sedation because if he feels the pain and twists at the wrong moment, he could wreck the whole damn ankle. That would just be reckless as hell and to no benefit at all.

I just can't see them sending him back out on the sidelines or the media room on a dislocate ankle that hasn't been reduced. And I can't see them being able to reduce it on site. So if those two things are accurate, it can't have been a complete dislocation.

In which case we're talking about a high ankle sprain period of recovery; the syndesmosis flexed/torqued but wasn't compromised so he's just gonna be awfully gimpy for awhile while that ligament firms back up.

Just a few pieces involved here that I can't quite put together. There's something I'm missing in here somewhere.

Yeah thanks for the info you clearly know what you're talking about :thumb: . The reporter said "he was shocked to see Cook with his timbs on". And when you combine that with the news about no break then hopefully we'll see him take the field again this season.

Disappointing. Get well soon #6

Pacheco and Cook the same player? Both made of rubber

More like Brian Dawkins the ****ing wolverine. His adamantium frame sustained no damage! See you in the playoffs **** Pie lovers!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, Chiefs safety Bryan Cook is expected to miss time, but there&#39;s a possibility he could return for the postseason. Meanwhile, IR is in play. <br><br>Really a best-case scenario after what was a very ugly-looking injury.</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1731812907019551198?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 4, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That suggests to me that it was a partial dislocation and high ankle sprain, then.

I don't see how he could've had a complete dislocation, been back on the sideline and be expected to be back this season. The math don't check out for me there.

And here's the basis for any 'expertise' I have here...

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/pict...pictureid=2415

Did that playing softball. Toe-picked it sliding, came over top of it. The foot came out forward as my body slid forward over top of it. So for that to happen, it had to have been facing backwards when it dislocated. So I'm betting a slow-mo replay of that would've been pretty damn gnarly.

'bout 4 months later and runnings still not a thing. I can do about anything else I want, but I had to have a tightrope (a couple holes drilled and a glorified come-along) placed in the joint to stabilize it while the ligaments heal. Ultimately ligaments will only heal so fast. There's just not a lot rehab can do to speed up healing on a ligament - the rehab just makes sure you get a complete recovery over a similar timeline.

So if there's a chance he's back for the post-season, he doesn't have that instability that I had. He didn't have to have the hardware installed. And I just can't see any way you pry a foot out of that joint WITHOUT doing enough damage to create that instability; the body isn't designed that way. If it comes all the way out, SOMETHING failed pretty catastrophically.

So I'm betting it wasn't a full dislocation.

So maybe he's out a month? That's almost worth it just to have the picture for your wall.

I cannot believe this didn’t end up being more severe. So happy for Cook.

Knock on wood, but this team sure lucks out sometimes on the injury front.

I thought he was dead

We gotta study the elasticity in his ankles for science cause holy shit that's amazing that he didn't injure it seriously.

Damn, that Xray hurts to look at...

You can't even see the broken fibula at the top of it!

Yeah, it was good times. I had people from other departments coming to see me as I sat in my hospital bed. In a sense it's a badge of honor.

I had the full “other departments” treatment two summers ago. Got bit on the left hand ring finger by a young copperhead. Swelled up big time prior to getting the anti-venom concoction they made for me. Luckily I got my wedding band off before the swelling made it impossible to do so. I think there were four different waves that came through. Copperhead bites don’t agree with me too much…

LMAO I don't think they would agree with anybody... I'm glad we don't have any poisonous reptiles (one are is rumored to have a few timber rattlers).

This one and the kneecap sneak were both miracles.