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carcosa 10-05-2018 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13791329)
If you go to weather.com they give you the hourly precipitation percentages.

This morning, Weather.com showed 35-50% chance of precipitation at gametime.

Now it's in the 60s.

best case might be a rainy morning, tapering off around kickoff

carcosa 10-05-2018 01:21 PM

get the field nice and slick for that jags defense...

MahiMike 10-05-2018 01:32 PM

Umm doesn't matter if it's 10 pct or 90 pct chance. Has no bearing on how much it rains.

htismaqe 10-05-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13791056)
I bristle at "finesse offense" that's not what this is. The Chiefs can EASILY throw to tight ends and Sammy crossing patterns and throw bubble screens to Hunt and Hill all day in the rain. They haven't done Alex Smith bubble screens this entire season but they easily can play that if the conditions demand it. That's not a finesse offense, it's a stacked one. The Chiefs can play just about any way you want.

True dat.

FAX 10-05-2018 01:37 PM

Just took a look at Blake Bortles passing charts for 2018. Can you say, "Up and Down"?

Anybody familiar with their offensive scheme? Because passing-wise, it looks like he's allergic to anything beyond 10 or 20 yards ... at the most. Is it slants? TE? Bubbles? Screens? What?

If our weakness is the DBs, it may be we're perfectly fine because (if the JAGs stay true-to-form) they can take the day off. If our weakness is LB coverage, maybe we put DOD or Paul Newman (sp?) in there and bench Ragland for the day (and it wouldn't bother me much if he stayed there for a few weeks).

I'm just not seeing the scare here (as far as the JAGs offense is concerned). What am I not seeing? Yes, Westbrook has had one long TD that should have been about a 20-yarder (that went the distance instead). They appear to prefer the rush up the middle and it looks like Yeldon has some cut-back in his game (probably has a lot to do with their interior line).

Let us not forget we had 4 sacks in the donk game (and 1 tough-ass INT on the boundary).

What am I missing here?

FAX

GloryDayz 10-05-2018 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13790852)
To be real with the way the rules are now you are not going to shut down elite offenses, it's not possible.

We would be well served by practicing "getting the call" a bit more. Last week when TK got rung-up for a pick is a great example, we need to be as good at running the pick as the Donks were under Manning, and the Pats are with TB.

I think other teams have it worked into every pass they attempt - "if all else fails, flail on the ground and get a DPI cheap one" - and I think we have a long way to go in that aspect of the game.

Let's hope we get better at it.

Halfcan 10-05-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 13791395)
Just took a look at Blake Bortles passing charts for 2018. Can you say, "Up and Down"?

Anybody familiar with their offensive scheme? Because passing-wise, it looks like he's allergic to anything beyond 10 or 20 yards ... at the most. Is it slants? TE? Bubbles? Screens? What?

If our weakness is the DBs, it may be we're perfectly fine because (if the JAGs stay true-to-form) they can take the day off. If our weakness is LB coverage, maybe we put DOD or Paul Newman (sp?) in there and bench Ragland for the day (and it wouldn't bother me much if he stayed there for a few weeks).

I'm just not seeing the scare here (as far as the JAGs offense is concerned). What am I not seeing? Yes, Westbrook has had one long TD that should have been about a 20-yarder (that went the distance instead). They appear to prefer the rush up the middle and it looks like Yeldon has some cut-back in his game (probably has a lot to do with their interior line).

Let us not forget we had 4 sacks in the donk game (and 1 tough-ass INT on the boundary).

What am I missing here?

FAX

Yeah, he is a real Hustler and makes a great spaghetti sauce too- Newmans own.

Simply Red 10-05-2018 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13790930)
I want to see Hill go off for 200 yards and 3 TDs against these assholes. The Jags have the LBs that can run with Kelce.....so Mahomes is going to have to spread it around during this game.

I have to ask the question (again) - do we see a lot of empty backfield sets too?

FAX 10-05-2018 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13792151)
I have to ask the question (again) - do we see a lot of empty backfield sets too?

My guess would be max-protect from the shotgun (or pistol) which give us the RPO as well, Mr. Simply Red. Here's my theory ...

Teams are employing much more Cover 3 against the Chiefs this year as opposed to the Cover 1 scheme we saw so much of last year. Cover 1 is down 19% and Cover 3 is up 11%. The concept there is that "mobile" QBs are, of course, more difficult to defend with man schemes. However, the difference between Mahomes and a lot of other "mobile" QBs is that he's running to throw (as opposed to running to run, a la Wishkins).

The Chiefs have run the shotgun/pistol on over 80% of our snaps so far this season. This is the tendency the bundle of stickss (sp?) will think is their secret sauce. It won't be. They'll run the Cover 3 most often, we'll show shotgun, motion to max-protect and Mahomes will tear them apart if they try to contain him in the pocket.

But if they do start getting pressure, it's the jet action and the RPO all day. Read the key DE or LB and make them drink the poison they concocted for themselves.

FAX

Kiimo 10-05-2018 06:50 PM

I hope Sammy is healthy Sunday. We need that speed.

Simply Red 10-05-2018 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 13792171)
My guess would be max-protect from the shotgun (or pistol) which give us the RPO as well, Mr. Simply Red. Here's my theory ...

Teams are employing much more Cover 3 against the Chiefs this year as opposed to the Cover 1 scheme we saw so much of last year. Cover 1 is down 19% and Cover 3 is up 11%. The concept there is that "mobile" QBs are, of course, more difficult to defend with man schemes. However, the difference between Mahomes and a lot of other "mobile" QBs is that he's running to throw (as opposed to running to run, a la Wishkins).

The Chiefs have run the shotgun/pistol on over 80% of our snaps so far this season. This is the tendency the pillowbiters (sp?) will think is their secret sauce. It won't be. They'll run the Cover 3 most often, we'll show shotgun, motion to max-protect and Mahomes will tear them apart if they try to contain him in the pocket.

But if they do start getting pressure, it's the jet action and the RPO all day. Read the key DE or LB and make them drink the poison they concocted for themselves.

FAX


Yeah I hope Sammy is close to 100% - he's super badly needed this week.

Simply Red 10-05-2018 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13792174)
I hope Sammy is healthy Sunday. We need that speed.

LMAO

KChiefs1 10-05-2018 08:05 PM

Tape Off:
https://youtu.be/1vvXET_UINA

FAX 10-05-2018 08:22 PM

Another fascinating factoid (at least, to me) ...

The KC Chiefs have TWICE the DVOA on 3rd and 4th down (when throwing the rock) compared to ANY OTHER OFFENSE IN THE LEAGUE! That's right. Don't make me type it twice.

No other offense is even close. I urge you guys to think about that ... we could be twice as bad using those plays on those downs and still tie for first. That's how good this offense is.

FAX

pugsnotdrugs19 10-05-2018 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 13792318)
Another fascinating factoid (at least, to me) ...

The KC Chiefs have TWICE the DVOA on 3rd and 4th down (when throwing the rock) compared to ANY OTHER OFFENSE IN THE LEAGUE! That's right. Don't make me type it twice.

No other offense is even close. I urge you guys to think about that ... we could be twice as bad using those plays on those downs and still tie for first. That's how good this offense is.

FAX

It’s funny how so often these days when a great offense meets a great defense, most people jump to the conclusion that the defense has the upper hand for some reason...

I don’t see it that way. I think JAX needs 30 to win Sunday at minimum.

Randallflagg 10-05-2018 10:07 PM

Hate to ask, but I’m currently sitting at DIA in Denver, heading to Cheyenne to my second home and will be there all week end. Any chance someone knows of a way to stream the game from the middle of nowhere? Thanks!

Hammock Parties 10-05-2018 10:11 PM

I'll drop a stream link in the GDT for ya bud.

New World Order 10-05-2018 10:59 PM

Now down to 40% chance of rain during gametime boys.

Simply Red 10-05-2018 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13792544)
Now down to 40% chance of rain during gametime boys.

still seeing 90%

RunKC 10-05-2018 11:12 PM

There is a good possibility of a weather delay IMO. Scattered thunderstorms all day Sunday.

Simply Red 10-05-2018 11:14 PM

I hope NWO's source is right.

RunKC 10-05-2018 11:17 PM

Yeah I’m seeing a 90% chance of rain on weather.com but it says 50% at night.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this game gets moved to 3 PM late game schedule.

htismaqe 10-05-2018 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13792560)
I hope NWO's source is right.

NWO's source is NWO.

The National Weather Service in Pleasant Hill, MO says the chance of rain is 80%.

rico 10-05-2018 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13792180)
Yeah I hope Sammy is close to 100% - he's super badly needed this week.

This...that dude is freaking crucial for our offense’s success. Always needs to be accounted for and always gets open.

They’ve been talking about Hill-Ramsey a lot, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see a good share of Watkins-Ramsey. And I feel ok about that matchup as well. I think that may have been on Ramsey’s mind when he made the comment about being annoyed that they were setting this game up for him as simply Hill vs. Ramsey.

htismaqe 10-05-2018 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13792562)
Yeah I’m seeing a 90% chance of rain on weather.com but it says 50% at night.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this game gets moved to 3 PM late game schedule.

Saturday 90%. Saturday night 90%. Sunday 80%. Sunday night 70%.

It's supposed to rain all weekend and clear through Monday. Moving the game won't buy them anything.

RunKC 10-05-2018 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13792567)
Saturday 90%. Saturday night 90%. Sunday 80%. Sunday night 70%.

It's supposed to rain all weekend and clear through Monday. Moving the game won't buy them anything.

Yeah I’m thinking lightning. It says thunderstorms and 90% chance of rain in the morning and scattered thunderstorms with 50% chance of rain at night.

Looks like it might clear up a bit in the afternoon.

htismaqe 10-05-2018 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13792571)
Yeah I’m thinking lightning. It says thunderstorms and 90% chance of rain in the morning and scattered thunderstorms with 50% chance of rain at night.

Looks like it might clear up a bit in the afternoon.

I pretty much only use the NWS. They are more reliable that anybody else in my experience.

Their forecast says "showers, and a chance for a thunderstorm" for Saturday, Saturday night, Sunday, and Sunday night.

From what I can tell, there's not a high probability for lightning except for tonight. It's showers, 70% or greater chance, straight through the weekend.

htismaqe 10-05-2018 11:32 PM

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Here's the full forecast...

Pasta Little Brioni 10-05-2018 11:33 PM

NWO s pretty legit fellers...

New World Order 10-05-2018 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13792577)
Here's the full forecast...

Go to weather.com and hit hourly. It will give you precipitation percentages for every hour.

It keeps changing.

It was at 40-50 yesterday; seems like it's been 40-60 today.

htismaqe 10-05-2018 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13792582)
Go to weather.com and hit hourly. It will give you precipitation percentages for every hour.

It keeps changing.

It was at 40-50 yesterday; seems like it's been 40-60 today.

Weather.com is one of the least reliable weather services online.

Simply Red 10-05-2018 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13792577)
Here's the full forecast...

It could change still. Fingers crossed.

Randallflagg 10-05-2018 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13792500)
I'll drop a stream link in the GDT for ya bud.


Thanks a lot!!

New World Order 10-05-2018 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 13792583)
Weather.com is one of the least reliable weather services online.

Hey, I'm trying here buddy!

htismaqe 10-05-2018 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13792588)
Hey, I'm trying here buddy!

It's all good man. I'm not trying to bust your chops...

New World Order 10-05-2018 11:48 PM

Rain or no rain.

We're going to fist the Jags while Andy 69s a burrito

BlackOp 10-05-2018 11:49 PM

Broncos didn't set any kind of "blueprint"...all they did was attempt to take away the long ball.

This forced Reid to remember he actually has the NFL's leading rusher from a year ago..who can truck fools on screen passes. He waited until the late 3rd quarter.

I say flip the script. Make Jacksonville stop Hunt on those short passes...THEN hit them long. This isn't an offense a team can game plan into being one dimensional...

One QB that I think looks a lot like Mahomes....is a young Marino. Not the mobility/off-the cuff element, which looks more Favre/Wilson/Tarkenton/Rodgers...but just the in-the-pocket, quick strike stuff. Marino was a bad-ass QB. He was the only QB to beat the 85 Bears...put 38 points on them.

htismaqe 10-05-2018 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13792592)
Rain or no rain.

We're going to fist the Jags while Andy 69s a burrito

ROFLROFLROFL

New World Order 10-06-2018 12:25 AM

Anyone else have trouble sleeping on Saturday nights?

I'm just too excited this year. I even had trouble sleeping last Sunday, even tho our game was on Monday night.

BlackOp 10-06-2018 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13792620)
Anyone else have trouble sleeping on Saturday nights?

I'm just too excited this year. I even had trouble sleeping last Sunday, even tho our game was on Monday night.

No...I never have trouble sleeping. The moment I wake up on game day...I'm like "Ok...let's see what this alien creature-football savant will freak out the masses with".

I honestly think he's the best QB I've EVER seen at this point in their career...people forget he's only played 4 games with the starters. All his games have been on the road except one...it's off the charts. Even Alex Smith referred to him as "otherworldly"..and he's no dummy. His GM took a lot of shit for saying "he's the best player I've ever seen" last off-season.. PM is not from this earth...there is some strange Ju-Ju going down in Chief-land. This is Michael Jordan territory...he beat Peyton Manning's record in his FIRST three games...it took HGH-Boy 15 seasons to get to that record and he's a top 3 QB all-time. He's about to redefine the QB position and expectations from young players....just "another level"

Savant would be an apropos nickname...Showtime sucks. Generic, non-specific...terrible.

BossChief 10-06-2018 12:42 AM

For us to put up a lot of points, Andy needs to design a bunch of plays targeting the slot and dime CBs of Jacksonville if we’re gonna keep them on their heels and score a lot.

Myles Jack is probably the only LB that can cover Kelce in the league now that Shazier is done. They have the outside corners to slow down Hill and Watkins. Their front 7 will limit Hunt and Ware.

Our best chance at explosive plays is with Demetrius Harris, Chris Conley and Demarcus Robinson on the other corners. We spread it out a lot and Jacksonville’s slot corner is out...so some guys named Tyler Patmon and Tre Herndon will be covering Conley and Robinson a lot. Harris should have a few opportunities for big plays down the seam, too.

Mahomes needs to be careful not to try to do too much against Jacksonville. That defense is other worldly, but it has weak points that we should be able to attack to put points on the board.

If those 3 have good games and Mahomes protects the ball otherwise, we should have a chance to win this one at home.

rico 10-06-2018 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13792630)
For us to put up a lot of points, Andy needs to design a bunch of plays targeting the slot and dime CBs of Jacksonville if we’re gonna keep them on their heels and score a lot.

Myles Jack is probably the only LB that can cover Kelce in the league now that Shazier is done. They have the outside corners to slow down Hill and Watkins. Their front 7 will limit Hunt and Ware.

Our best chance at explosive plays is with Demetrius Harris, Chris Conley and Demarcus Robinson on the other corners. We spread it out a lot and Jacksonville’s slot corner is out...so some guys named Tyler Patmon and Tre Herndon will be covering Conley and Robinson a lot. Harris should have a few opportunities for big plays down the seam, too.

Mahomes needs to be careful not to try to do too much against Jacksonville. That defense is other worldly, but it has weak points that we should be able to attack to put points on the board.

If those 3 have good games and Mahomes protects the ball otherwise, we should have a chance to win this one at home.

What is your take on AJ Bouye? If there is a player in the NFL, who’s combintion of career trajectory to this point, measurables, stats, etc. doesn’t make sense to me...it is AJ Bouye.

rico 10-06-2018 01:47 AM

I found this on some Tyrod Taylor fanatic’s Twitter... don’t ask me how I found it. I mean, think about that. There are Alexsexuals in this world...Alex....sexuals. That’s impossible enough to comprehend, but then you find out that sexuals of....Tyrod Taylor actually exist and you officially conclude that no matter what, there are millions of people in this world that you will just plain and simply never be able to make sense of.

Anyways, this was posted in 2016 after the Bills vs. Jaguars game. Sammy Watkins took on Jalen Ramsey in that game. This is a clip from it. Watkins had a decent game...put up 80 yards vs. (rookie) Jalen Ramsey with Tyrod Taylor shot-putting the ball. I think we may be ok...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">sammy watkins vs jalen ramsey. tyrod taylor has one of the best deep balls in the league <a href="https://t.co/V3djxG8C8v">pic.twitter.com/V3djxG8C8v</a></p>&mdash; 🔪👻🎃 calvin grisly 🎃👻🔪 (lakers 0-0) (@FourVerts) <a href="https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/803272073598615552?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 28, 2016</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BlackOp 10-06-2018 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13792630)
For us to put up a lot of points, Andy needs to design a bunch of plays targeting the slot and dime CBs of Jacksonville if we’re gonna keep them on their heels and score a lot.

Myles Jack is probably the only LB that can cover Kelce in the league now that Shazier is done. They have the outside corners to slow down Hill and Watkins. Their front 7 will limit Hunt and Ware.

Our best chance at explosive plays is with Demetrius Harris, Chris Conley and Demarcus Robinson on the other corners. We spread it out a lot and Jacksonville’s slot corner is out...so some guys named Tyler Patmon and Tre Herndon will be covering Conley and Robinson a lot. Harris should have a few opportunities for big plays down the seam, too.

Mahomes needs to be careful not to try to do too much against Jacksonville. That defense is other worldly, but it has weak points that we should be able to attack to put points on the board.

If those 3 have good games and Mahomes protects the ball otherwise, we should have a chance to win this one at home.

I think Arrowhead + Mahomes magic hysteria is too much for Bortles. Quit pretending like this is dude is anything but average...their fans are praying he plays out of his mind, on the road. It might happen..but its like a 15% chance.

They played NE, at home on a 100 day without the Patriot's 2 best offensive weapons...and they were pissed about losing the play-off game. (which they should be becuaase the officials ****ed them)

Meh...

Does anyone really think Bortles out-duels Mahomes? in Arrowhead? Blake is a FA after this year...maybe a Mahomes for Bortles trade...straight-up?

T-post Tom 10-06-2018 02:21 AM

Remember Mahome's 1st touchdown pass to Hill in the Charger game? Those type of quick slants to Hill, Kelsey and Watkins would be an excellent way to chop up the Jags defense. They will be focused on keeping Mahomes contained and eliminating the extended play. Those quick slants will be almost impossible to defend with our receivers. I can see Hill torching Ramsey multiple times on these type of plays.

Hammock Parties 10-06-2018 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13792630)
For us to put up a lot of points, Andy needs to design a bunch of plays targeting the slot and dime CBs of Jacksonville if we’re gonna keep them on their heels and score a lot.

**** that shit. Steve Young didn't shy away from Jerry Rice just because Deion was out there.

Jalen is no Deion.

We're going to roast that overrated shit talker.

PAChiefsGuy 10-06-2018 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13792658)
**** that shit. Steve Young didn't shy away from Jerry Rice just because Deion was out there.

Jalen is no Deion.

We're going to roast that overrated shit talker.

I agree that Mahomes shouldn't shy away from any CB in the league. He should throw to who is open. If the WR going against Ramesay is open then throw to him if he isn't then don't. It's as simple as that.

Wouldn't call Ramesay overrated though. He's good arguably best in the league. He can play.

T-post Tom 10-06-2018 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 13792660)
Wouldn't call Ramesay overrated though. He's good arguably best in the league. He can play.

Ramsey hasn't had to cover 4.24 speed. OBJ torched him pretty well this year; and he runs a 4.43. Hill's agility, quickness and speed will be too much for the jag's wannabe shit talker. I'm just glad Fournette won't be on the field. He would be the biggest worry for the Chiefs if he were playing.

KCUnited 10-06-2018 04:30 AM

OMW to the airport. First stop is Corner Cafe in Riverside then onto Red X for supplies.

WBF

ThaVirus 10-06-2018 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13790912)
If it rains I won't be worried at all. Bortles trying to beat us with his legs is something I welcome.

Bortles can scoot. He's got like the second highest YPC average of any player in history only behind Mike Vick, IIRC.

KChiefs1 10-06-2018 07:02 AM

Let's talk about the Jaguars
 
Blake Bortles at Arrowhead? Blake Bortles?

Blake Bortles vs Patrick Mahomes?

https://youtu.be/VYBOc3ou-0w
https://youtu.be/VWqkp0aq49o

rico 10-06-2018 07:14 AM

Hopefully Chad Henne can be insightful. for this game. Kind of like how Mychal Kendricks was on Hard Knocks...when he gave that speech/rundown about the Eagles players before they played them in an exhibition game. Having Henne definitely won’t hurt when it comes to the preparation....may not help, at all...but won’t hurt.

rico 10-06-2018 07:25 AM

Doesn’t Bortles generally play pretty poorly on the road?

staylor26 10-06-2018 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 13792695)
Doesn’t Bortles generally play pretty poorly on the road?

Yup

Nzoner 10-06-2018 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13792444)

I don’t see it that way. I think JAX needs 30 to win Sunday at minimum.

Vegas finally thinks it's going to be low scoring as the total has been at 49 all week. :D

bobbything 10-06-2018 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 13792737)
Vegas finally thinks it's going to be low scoring as the total has been at 49 all week. :D

You’re looking at it all wrong. It’s high scoring. We win 40-9.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-06-2018 08:46 AM

Weak spots do not exist enough with that defense to avoid their good players for long stretches.

But the same goes for the Chiefs offense. Gotta give your playmakers chances, doesn’t matter who they’re playing against.

Yeah, Ramsey, Jack, Bouye, etc. may be able to cover our guys better than most defenses, but our receivers can beat them more consistently than other offenses.

bobbything 10-06-2018 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by rico (Post 13792695)
Doesn’t Bortles generally play pretty poorly on the road?

98 passer rating vs. 65. He’s atrocious on the road.

Mecca 10-06-2018 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13792630)
For us to put up a lot of points, Andy needs to design a bunch of plays targeting the slot and dime CBs of Jacksonville if we’re gonna keep them on their heels and score a lot.

Myles Jack is probably the only LB that can cover Kelce in the league now that Shazier is done. They have the outside corners to slow down Hill and Watkins. Their front 7 will limit Hunt and Ware.

Our best chance at explosive plays is with Demetrius Harris, Chris Conley and Demarcus Robinson on the other corners. We spread it out a lot and Jacksonville’s slot corner is out...so some guys named Tyler Patmon and Tre Herndon will be covering Conley and Robinson a lot. Harris should have a few opportunities for big plays down the seam, too.

Mahomes needs to be careful not to try to do too much against Jacksonville. That defense is other worldly, but it has weak points that we should be able to attack to put points on the board.

If those 3 have good games and Mahomes protects the ball otherwise, we should have a chance to win this one at home.

They don't move their corners...you could attack their interior with your 1 and 2 if you moved them around.

FAX 10-06-2018 09:05 AM

Do you guys remember the hype surrounding the opening game against the Pats?

Do you remember all the nogs declaring that the Pats were probably going undefeated that year? Their phenomenal home record against the AFC? Against everybody? Their record in home openers? With a lead at halftime? All that?

My God in Heaven ... twisted undergarments are so unfashionable.

FAX

SupDock 10-06-2018 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 13792630)
For us to put up a lot of points, Andy needs to design a bunch of plays targeting the slot and dime CBs of Jacksonville if we’re gonna keep them on their heels and score a lot.

Myles Jack is probably the only LB that can cover Kelce in the league now that Shazier is done. They have the outside corners to slow down Hill and Watkins. Their front 7 will limit Hunt and Ware.

Our best chance at explosive plays is with Demetrius Harris, Chris Conley and Demarcus Robinson on the other corners. We spread it out a lot and Jacksonville’s slot corner is out...so some guys named Tyler Patmon and Tre Herndon will be covering Conley and Robinson a lot. Harris should have a few opportunities for big plays down the seam, too.

Mahomes needs to be careful not to try to do too much against Jacksonville. That defense is other worldly, but it has weak points that we should be able to attack to put points on the board.

If those 3 have good games and Mahomes protects the ball otherwise, we should have a chance to win this one at home.

Tre Herndon is questionable at corner on the latest IR. Who do they bring in next?

Hammock Parties 10-06-2018 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 13792781)
Do you guys remember the hype surrounding the opening game against the Pats?

Do you remember all the nogs declaring that the Pats were probably going undefeated that year? Their phenomenal home record against the AFC? Against everybody? Their record in home openers? With a lead at halftime? All that?

My God in Heaven ... twisted undergarments are so unfashionable.

FAX

Andy Reid has basically beaten the shit out of Bill Belichick's defenses the last two times they met in the regular season.

Can't imagine this time will be any different.

BlackOp 10-06-2018 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13792652)
Does anyone really think Bortles out-duels Mahomes? in Arrowhead? Blake is a FA after this year...maybe a Mahomes for Bortles trade...straight-up?

Self-correction. I guess the Jags extended him in the off-season...

MahiMike 10-06-2018 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13792174)
I hope Sammy is healthy Sunday. We need that speed.

Time for Robinson to step up.

Simply Red 10-06-2018 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13792804)
Self-correction. I guess the Jags extended him in the off-season...


as long as it's a 'self-correction'

FloridaMan88 10-06-2018 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13792562)
Yeah I’m seeing a 90% chance of rain on weather.com but it says 50% at night.

I wouldn’t be surprised if this game gets moved to 3 PM late game schedule.

Unless thunderstorms/lightning is expected, why would they move the game time because of rain?

NFL football has been played in rain for about 99 years now... maybe you missed that fact.

scho63 10-06-2018 01:29 PM

Tomorrow's game could be decided by turnovers or dropped passes if the weather is going to be as bad as it looks.

Could be a low scoring run attack if passing is too tough.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-06-2018 02:25 PM

It’s gonna rain. A lot.

Luckily I think that favors us given that Kareem and Ware can really do damage in these conditions.

This game will have to be won in the trenches I would say. I’m not worried about Mahomes being able to throw it, I’m worried about the receivers being able to catch it.

New World Order 10-06-2018 02:28 PM

Yeah forecast doesn't look good.

This sucks

pugsnotdrugs19 10-06-2018 02:31 PM

The good news is that the Chiefs have a chance to grind out a win here at home and not show too much flashy stuff in their gameplan because of how mucky its going to be.

We very well may meet this team again in January and I’d hate to show too many of our cards in the game tomorrow that can beat their schemes. You know Andy has stuff up his large sleeve.

New World Order 10-06-2018 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13793244)
The good news is that the Chiefs have a chance to grind out a win here at home and not show too much flashy stuff in their gameplan because of how mucky its going to be.

We very well may meet this team again in January and I’d hate to show too many of our cards in the game tomorrow that can beat their schemes. You know Andy has stuff up his large sleeve.

Remember that very rainy Monday night game in Green Bay? I think it was 2015 where Rodgers still managed to score 30+ on us.

FAX 10-06-2018 02:37 PM

Rain. Schmain.

Which is more difficult on a wet field? Know where you're going on a route? Or, try to mirror a guy who already knows where he's going on a route?

We got this.

FAX

pugsnotdrugs19 10-06-2018 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 13793252)
Remember that rainy Monday night game in Green Bay? I think it was 2015 where Rodgers still managed to score 30+ on us.

I don’t doubt offenses too much in the rain anymore after I watched Alex Smith and Tyrod Taylor, 2 absolute game managers, sling the football all over the yard in 2015 at Arrowhead in the worst outdoor conditions I’ve ever stood in. 34 degrees and steady rain for 4 quarters.

It kinda makes me interested to see how they handle the rain. Might be a good opportunity to get after their defense as the pass rush and DBs will be slowed by the slick field.

Sassy Squatch 10-06-2018 02:42 PM

Who all is going to be there in the rain?

DRM08 10-06-2018 02:43 PM

Gonna be an ugly game with the weather. Need to protect the ball. No turnovers would be huge in this kind of game.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-06-2018 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 13793270)
Gonna be an ugly game with the weather. Need to protect the ball. No turnovers would be huge in this kind of game.

Fumbles will happen.

Luckily Hunt has been amazing protecting the ball and Bortles is well.... Bortles.

pugsnotdrugs19 10-06-2018 03:14 PM

For other fantasy guys on here—do I play Mahomes or Newton tomorrow?

Both games may be rainy it looks like but opponents are obviously different.

MahiMike 10-06-2018 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13792677)
Bortles can scoot. He's got like the second highest YPC average of any player in history only behind Mike Vick, IIRC.

Yea, this is actually the last thing we want. I'd rather he throw ducks.

FAX 10-06-2018 03:48 PM

I'd like to make a comment ... so I will ... because I've been thinking ...

On the subject of Bortles running with the ball-thing ... I wonder if we will go with DOD instead of Ragland on certain downs (Ragland only played in 43% of the snaps in the donk game) and use him to spy Bortles tendencies to run the edges. Or maybe use DOD in nickel sets to spy and also cover backs (since we can anticipate the short game from Bortles).

FAX THE THINKER ABOUT STUFF

pugsnotdrugs19 10-06-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 13793453)
I'd like to make a comment ... so I will ... because I've been thinking ...

On the subject of Bortles running with the ball-thing ... I wonder if we will go with DOD instead of Ragland on certain downs (Ragland only played in 43% of the snaps in the donk game) and use him to spy Bortles tendencies to run the edges. Or maybe use DOD in nickel sets to spy and also cover backs (since we can anticipate the short game from Bortles).

FAX THE THINKER ABOUT STUFF

We also could use DOD against Yeldon in the passing game.

It’s the job he was drafted for. About time that he gets a chance to do it IMO.


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