If I am Dorsey I want the best QB I can get

I want to bang a super model. It doesn't mean it would happen.

The Chiefs wouldn't give Mahomes up for two first round picks from Cleveland, much less a 1st and 4th.

Cool beans. Take Darnold or Rosen #1, or throw ****tons of cash at Cousins, or give us a 2nd for Smith. There's no way Mahomes goes to the Browns.

He said 1 and 4 in reference to both of the Browns first round picks and I’m sure he is trolling.

With all those picks the last regime left him? They'll be good fast.

Carson Palmer. Took some digging to find one.

I think so.

Not first choice, but I think it would be a fun adventure for Alex to go to the Brownies.

He's a stupid **** if to not retire, but if he keeps going.. Cleveland becoming an AFC contender would happen with him.. and that would be amusing. Someone has to end the QB graveyard there. Hell, if LaBron can go to Cleveland, and save that bunch... why not Alex too? lol... Who else better qualified to bring a dormant team to life yet again?

:)

how the **** do you put Alex Smith and Lebron James in the same sentence. One guy Is the cream of the crop all time at his sport the other guy is fools gold. Alex may look good at times, it might be shiny, but in the end its not worth shit.

I like Veach. The phone comments could be slight jab at Dorsey. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUzpHl3V...pg&name=medium

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Dude is going to go back to pissing his pants without Andy Reid holding his hand.

Guaranteed.

Alex knows it too.

What a let down he's going to be for whatever fan base he ends up.

The guys up for FedEx Air player of the year give me a break lol

Are we sure about that?:D......J/K

Exactly. And Alex is probably the best option to start game 1 of 2018 for them and “solidify the position” while a rookie is groomed.

Matt Cassel had a 61% in college and threw for zero TD's and one pick! Still in the NFL after being drafted in the seventh round by New England.

Matt Stafford

His last year was over 60%.

I thought he meant cumulative...

Michael Vick never had a season above 60% at VT.

Alex had zero interest in the Browns. He basicly said so recently to Eisen. They suck and he knows it. No way Andy does that to him. He will probably just get cut.

Persistent.

I think Alex believes he's coming back to the Chiefs. Tough shit. He gone. He will go to Cleveland if they offer him enough money. And they have a shitload of it.

Tuckdipshit back at it again.

All of you guys who said Smith was going to CLE deserve to eat crow. LMAO

LMAO LMAO LMAO

Who cares where he goes, as long as he goes? Washington is no prize, either.

God how I will enjoy watching Alex FAIL in a new city and on a new team! What a WONDERFUL DAY!

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Dorsey adding some great people to his scouting team.

Saw that. Interesting. Thought Dorsey was the talent guy but I guess this guy's pretty good at it too. Heard he's just coming in for the draft.

I hope that McCloughan can beat the bottle because he's good for the NFL

He another great addition to that FO even if it’s just temporary.

They need all the help they can get.

I wonder how much longer Podesta will be in Cleveland? He's the exact opposite of Dorsey and McCloughan.

If McCloughan can beat the bottle, he'll be a GM again by 2020.

I can’t imagine him lasting after this year.

He'll need to stay clean and I won't be surprised if he has an alcohol testing clause in his next GM contract.

They TRIED you ****ing idiot

Sorry I should’ve clarified that I was talking about Podesta.

But I can definitely see McCloughan getting a GM job sometime in the next two years.

You are quoting yourself as if you were right about anything.

The Browns, Broncos, and Redskins made offers. He didn't go to the Broncos because the Chiefs didnt want to trade him to a division rival. From what I've read the Browns offered a better deal that included multiple picks including one of their 2nd rounders, but the Chiefs gave Alex the choice between the Browns and Redskins and he chose the Redskins because they were offering a long term deal.

You weren't right about anything.

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Troll post/bump :rolleyes:

I really hope that Dorsey makes Cleveland competitive again. It would be fantastic if Cleveland started kicking the crap out of Baltimore every year. The NFL will have less boring games if they have less terrible teams.

Why would bumping this thread be trolling?

Use your peanut sized brain

Worry about the Broncos you dumb sumbitch

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Watching the Browns evolve as Veach moves forward with the Chiefs is a very intriguing thing to watch. I'm sure we're all interested to see how this plays out. Was firing dorsey the right move, time will tell. Of course dorsey doesn't have Reid now and that needs to be taken into consideration. but he's sure putting the pieces there for his HC.

Well, he did here as well. He is good at the quick turn-around, and he had a crazy amount of draft picks and cap space there.

The question, and this is where I think he failed here, is what he does the next couple years and the types of moves and signings he does.

But he is good at getting a team competitive quickly.

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Really should confine Knowmo to the Donko thread.

He keeps bumping threads with unnecessary posts.

The only thing that matters with the browns is mayfield.... he fails and they are bank where they started, and Dorsey is out of a job.

Same with Mahomes. All these playoff losses, even at home, have battered the fan base to the edge. Getting a QOTF saved the fan base from huge losses and empty seats.

But, that just bought us time. If Mahomes fails, he throws out his shoulder, hit by a bus etc. the fan base will go into full meltdown that will take a decade to recover.

Tyrod Taylor is not a bad qb to Alex Smith the franchise. That is... Be good enough for the team to not suck and actually be competitive. There isn't as much pressure as you might think. If Dorsey gets that team even close to 8-8, then he will be safe for a while.

They'll meltdown... until the Chiefs draft another QB

Looks like Haley will be head coach by week 6.

I'll be like 70 years old by then.

He's not supposed to be posting outside of that thread. We just need to delete that garbage thread and be done with it.

The big takeaway from last night for sure is that hue Jackson doesn't inspire any confidence whatsoever. Good offensive coach. Way too soft to be a head coach. And his coaching staff knows it.

Haley is a little weasel so I'm sure he will backstab and undermine Jackson constantly. He already has his eye on being the Head coach I'm sure.

How do you figure? He never did that in Pittsburgh and even turned down interview opportunities for other head coaching jobs. He got along very well with whisenhunt and Tomlin. I don't think he's a weasel. In this case, I think he's so philosophically different in that he wants his team to be tough and hue wants to be a players coach.

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That photo is hilarious.

And the more i watch Hard Knocks the more i understand why they drafted this kid. I think he will in fact be good.

Got a sexy farmers tan going on.

You can just tell when somebody takes command of a huddle. If we didn't have Mahomes, I wouldn't be upset developing around Mayfield. Main reason I never understood the love for Darnold. The kid's body language in the bowl game was complete trash.

But can he take command of the huddle like Keesum does? KnowShit says that Keesum can really get his team to huddle up. LMAO

I think he’ll be solid. I just don’t know if his upside is that high. Also, how will he respond to adversity?

He's gonna be Drew Brees 2.0

I seriously doubt that.

I said that when he was hired by the Browns. I'm not so sure it will happen by week 6 but after the season closes it could happen without a doubt.

If you aren't thinking forward, you will be going backwards.

Who cares if he has his eyes to be the Browns HC. I don't blame him one bit.

Why isn't his upside high? He's an accurate thrower with a nice strong arm and seems to be pretty smart.

When you watch his college tape, and even that first preseason game, most of his “highlights” come with great protection. When he’s pressured, he struggles and doesn’t look like the same guy. Kind of reminds me of Carr in that regard, who I also think has limited upside.

Which QB doesn't struggle when pressured?

He reminds me a lot of Tony Romo

That's not bad.

Realistically I doubt he ever gets to that point because Brees and Romo were legit, but he's off to a good start.

Obviously they all do, but when it’s night and day, that’s concerning. Most QB’s also don’t have great projection week in and week out. Mayfield either has great protection and he looks good, or he’s being pressured and he looks like a completely different guy.

Do you not see the difference in a guy like Carr vs. Brees under pressure?

Sure, but Brees is a hall of famer against the blitz. If that's the standard we're having, well, most people are gonna struggle.

I don't know if that's something you can improve on though is the problem. Maybe an experience thing.

Yea that’s all I’m really saying. I just don’t know how fixable that is, and it would the difference in a Tier 1/Tier 2 QB.

Tier 2 is still a huge ****ing win for Cleveland.

Just to expand on that, like I said most of Mayfield’s success comes with great protection which we know he’s not going to get early on aim Cleveland.

How does he deal with the adversity of playing behind a below average OL week in and week out?

His personality scares me a little when thinking about that.

Legit tier one guys are hall of fame type guys. I don’t think you ever go in expecting that. Especially in Cleveland at this point.

Hell if he’s alex smith that’s a huge win

He's definitely going to be better than Alex Smith. But I doubt as good as Brees. Whose the comp inbetween those two? That's him. Romo seems about right I guess.

No doubt, and I’m not so sure he’ll even be a tier 2 QB. I’m just saying that’s where his ceiling is at best IMO.

His play under pressure has always been touted as one of his biggest strengths.

https://www.ajc.com/sports/college/p...TXYZPknI1WKdM/

Watson or Mayfield?

Who would you guys take?