Let him play next season. If it's another season of bullshit....then you let him walk. If it's another season like his first season....then you franchise him.

I'm not trading him away for ****ing peanuts. Especially considering that we have nothing opposite him in the defensive backfield.

You want to talk about underwhelming Houston has been, how badly Jones, Bailey, and Ford have regressed, how much of a waste of money Logan, DJ, and Hali have been, how utterly worthless Gaines, Murray, and Zombo have been, I'll be your huckleberry. In another thread. This discussion is about Marcus Peters and how he's regressed both mentally and from an effort standpoint compared to his stalwart rookie year.

Link?

I'm not seeing the problem here, I think I'm probably the #1 Peters hater around here, and I don't really see too much wrong with what he did.

Was it right? No. Was it a ticky-tack call? Yes. Would a respected team get called for that? No.

So as wrong as it was, he did it at the right time. We were already going to suffer a penalty, so it's not like the officials hadn't made up their minds that the opposition was going to be allowed to score. Yeah, I do believe that! So maybe what he's trying to do, but failed, is to raise awareness of how ticky-tack that call was.

It's no different than my desire to have Alex (or Mahomes) get into official's faces, draw a 15 yarder when it's going to be 4th and 10 from the opposition's 45 (and we aren't going to even try for 3, and not only giving the punter some room to work, but letting the officials, the NFL, and the viewing audience that we're not going to take it anymore, and while the action costs us 15, the talk will show how the officials (again) missed something they wouldn't miss if we were the Pats.

Next up, if we didn't have a cuck owner, might be a compilation of arbitrary and unbalanced calls. From missed holds (think last year's Pittsburgh game), to ticky-tack calls against us juxtaposed to calls called on us.

At some point you have to confront the league and demand justice. You can do it in private at first, but let them know "private" will stay private only if what's presented starts to change.

And for anybody who disagrees, I'd suggest that as we approach 48 years of not attending a SB, what would it hurt to try standing up to the league that appears to have favorites?

Voice of reason. Well said.

I am not advocating getting rid of him, I woudl even pick up his 5th year option unless he goes complete knucklehead or continues to decline in play.

After that he can hit the streets.

Priority #1 this offseason needs to be finding another CB to play alongside Peters. Then maybe we can get a DC in here who actually likes to matchup his CB to a WR during a game. It's complete horseshit that Sutton isn't having Peters shadow a teams #1 WR.

Sure you can you can run to the ball for instance these gifs we keep seeing of him dodging sticking his nose in a play. Never know if he lays a lick he jars a ball out or strips one. Instead he chooses to lay back and let the lesser's do the dirty work.

I don't see that stat. Help a guy out?

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I see he leads the Chiefs... the league, Not really It looks like #28 but you may have a different stay other than "Number of Flags".

The 27 before Peters ...
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Bottom line is the Chiefs need to get a lot more speed on Dee pretty much the whole dee edge rushers, line backers and secondary needs to be faster. Peters is not going anywhere. To many other needs, no #1 pick and still cap problems (which could free up money by cutting DJ, Hali and trading Smith) from the previous GM.

I agree with your assessment about lack of speed (and quickness). Our DL has a bunch of big, slow guys on it and our LBs may be the slowest in the league. I think our secondary has acceptable speed, but it's hard to tell when Sutton has them playing 15 yards off the ball. Anyway, this defense is S-L-O-W.

I don't have an issue with Houston. The point is, our biggest regression is that we aren't putting pressure. When we don't put pressure, our corners can't ball hawk. And it makes their jobs that much harder. Our regression in the secondary has a lot more to do with how much our pass rush has fallen off. Don't think many would blame our pass rush problems, on the other hand, on our corners. The pass rush is the symptom much more than the secondary.

Jones, Bailey, and Ford are regressing because they've been totally ineffective at getting push. Maybe some of that is scheme. But that is their own issue. A ton of any issues in our secondary can be blamed on another unit. For example, I don't think Mitchell has been terrible (apart from the deep ball) given how much is asked of him.

Maybe one of the coaches or some of the staff should have stopped him. He slowly walked off the field and was even escorted off by a staff member. Hell, he stopped to give a fan his gloves or something. If he "quit" why did he run back on without his socks? Mass confusion on a team with no discipline.

I don't really have a dog in the fight per say, but I'll go ahead and get one.


I'd move on from him. Watch some of the breakdowns. Dude just doesn't give a shit when things go bad.

It sucks. But it is waht it is.

Not a good enough excuse for his drop off in play. There's more to being a CB in the NFL than ballhawking. If he wants to actually hone his craft and become a complete NFL caliber CB, then you keep him after 4 years. If he wants to continue to throw temper tantrums on the sidelines and in the games, and make "business decisions" when its time to tackle, then he can play out his rookie deal and **** right off.

Funny you didn't mention Kelcee who also does immature and stupid shit that hurts the team...

I don’t think effort is an issue with Kelce though.

Pretty much.

This team doesn't seem to have much discipline though. As soon as Kelcee stops going full reerun Peters starts.

People keep saying Reid was good with "problem" players or guys with fiery tempers. There's a big difference between Reid and a guy like Hoodie. Hoodie gets guys like Moss to quit doing dumbassery.

Just being willing to put up with someone's bullshit doesn't make you good with people...

So which one of you Peters haters is Dan ?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not enuf! Fire him or trade him. Then put him in a circle surrounded by veterans with clubs. Play the natl anthem and watch them beat the hell out of him!</p>&mdash; Dan Samani (@SamaniDan) <a href="https://twitter.com/SamaniDan/status/938479650170224640?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 6, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Whatevs..

My defense of Peters is: "Have you watched Philip Gaines/Ken Acker/Terrance Mitchell?

No other team would want him.

My point is is that other than tackling, the drop-off in his play is hugely exaggerated. He needs an attitude adjustment and I'm glad he was suspended. But put any of the top 30 corners in the situation with our pass rush and tell me how most CBs would do. Especially on a cb whose strength is taking advantage of qb mistakes. What qb is going to make mistakes when they have more than 5 seconds, can go through all the reads, and throws out of a clean pocket not under duress? It's a huge factor in peters' regression in play and considering he's still a very good coverage guy despite that, so I don't at all buy that he's loafing out there. In coverage he's still competitive as hell.

Honestly I don't see the suspension as a cure. This will only continue until he is a Raider

I don't by him necessarily wanting to be a raider. He may love Oakland and want to live there, but by the time he is free to leave, the Raiders will be in Las Vegas

100% false

At least he is still one of the few on the team that has any passion. They should be better then they are and he got pissed.

People act like he murdered someone. He got pissed and acted dumb. He's being punished. Hardly worth cutting him or trading him

So where is his passion on this play? You think someone who truly has passion like Ray Lewis or Eric Berry would ever do something like this?

<blockquote class="twitter-video" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Peters had a great game with the two takeaways... but wasn’t real interested in tackling anyone. <a href="https://t.co/OFpHzLf0Gp">pic.twitter.com/OFpHzLf0Gp</a></p>&mdash; Soren Petro (@SorenPetro) <a href="https://twitter.com/SorenPetro/status/925366746214748160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 31, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Not buying the 'he is just passionate' BS. If he truly had passion a play like this would NEVER happen. Lets call it what it really is... He's an immature hothead. He has been since college which is why he got kicked off the team.

Better pick and choose your veterans wisely. Some of them still have a ****ing brain, like these two.



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Deion Sanders is an alpha who had a huge mouth. He says what he wants and doesn’t give a ****.
Richard Sherman is an alpha who has a huge mouth. He says what he wants and doesn’t give a ****.
Marcus Peters is an alpha who has a huge mouth. He says what he wants and doesn’t give a ****.
Jalen Ramsey is an alpha who has a huge mouth. He says what he wants and doesn’t give a ****.

If you don’t like Marcus Peters, then you are too fragile of a fan to handle a real CB, because 99% of the good ones are egotistical loud mouths.

I want nothing but Marcus Peters types on my defense. You have to be a prick to play defense in this league.

Yes.

The Douche-Factor is real, and must be replicated and respected.

Marcus is not an alpha, but Berry is and keeps in check. Alpha/leaders aren't detriments to their team. Peters got kicked out of University of Washington's football program because of his character.

If Peters can't take us saying what we want, and not giving a ****, he's more of a fragile little pussy than I thought.

If you are a fan that yells at NFL players from the stands, you shouldn’t be a triggered pussy when one of them looks at you and says “**** you, bitch!”.

**** Marcus Peters. He's an asshole and a nutcase. Hugging the ref during the Titans game like an idiot., getting suspended in the NFL and college, I could go on...

Being a great CB doesn't mean you have to be an asshole... That's a stupid idiotic statement but you are an idiot yourself so it doesn't surprise me you posted this.

I think Kansas City is the only place where fans care more about the character of their players than what they actually do on the field. Maybe we should be recruiting players right out of church. Peters lost himself, but he ended the season strong including an excellent game against Tennessee.

PA “Alexsexual” beta cuck fan whose favorite Chief is the biggest beta cuck in football arguing about one of the only alpha’s on the team that is already on pace to break NFL records.

But this is the same pussy who threatens to meet people in real life to fight. LMAO

LOL, maybe he needs to be a man and realize that we fans can tell him to **** off. He needs to just take his bitch ass back to the showers and juice or something. Whatever it takes to help him learn how to tackle.

Until then, he needs to not start talking shit, we're a lot better at it than his sissy ass..

Dont worry, you wont have to root for peters anymore after your boo Alex gets traded to cleveland or arizona.

I never said Chiefs should cut Marcus Peters. I love how he plays but that doesn't mean I like him. I don't have to like a player just because he is a good player and plays for the Chiefs.

Maybe you like Marcus Peters because he helps the Chiefs win so in return you think all Chief fans should love him but not me. I'm not going to let the fact he plays for the Chiefs influence my opinion on that asshole too much.

^^^^ ****ing Idiot who can not remember what killer instict Chiefs defense is all about.

Go with Smith.

Please.

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So he needs to man up, and let a bunch of assholes yell obscenities at him?

Are you entitled to yell whatever you want at another grown man without repercussion?

If we'd had 53 players with Marcus Peters' talent, even with his immaturity, we'd be ****ing unstoppable.

Not whatever we want. There are rules.

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PA thinks he can beat up Peters.

Not everyone is a pussy like you and scared of a person just because they are a professional athlete. You are nothing but a rat anyway. Go complain to the mods because I wasn't filtering my curse words right again you little bitch

You a NEPA Chiefs guy?

No.

Oh look, an entitled loser

You been around a lot of pro athletes?

The guy may have seen the error of his ways after Andy suspended him. He was solid and a pretty good citizen after that. When we all cry about needing a #2 CB, why on earth would we give away our #1? I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt for right now. As far as the "can't tackle" argument, it appears that quite a few of our D fall into that category. I'm wondering if the new rules about contact in practice has effected that.

Who "lost" the game?

Yes, fans are entitled, but we didn't lose the game. All we're saying is that this pussy-ass punk should shut up because he tackles like a clown. Maybe he should climb back into his hole if he can't take people calling him what he is.

Who knows, but 1 Arrowhead Way will certainly add it to their stockpile of excuses they use to make themselves feel better inside the circled wagons.

TRADE MARCUS PETERS TO THE RAIDERS!!!!!

Can I still defend him?

I bet PAChiefsfan is a 5’5” 140 lb Internet tough guy. He wreaks of it.

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More Peters' for the Chiefs, and less ****ing Smith's.

You want to win big? That's how it works.