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We have a new GM and his name is Brett Veach
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2019 literally every single draft pick played a role except Allegretti but he was a 7th round pick so that’s expected. Hardman, Thornhill, Saunders and my most surprising draft pick that everyone said wtf to when drafted RASHAD MOTHER****ING FENTON!! |
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Saunders is a question mark but DL can take a year or two to find what you have. What I'm hoping to see this year is a steal or two. A pro bowl player we grab at 32 or a top end player we find in the 2nd. |
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We really could use help at linebacker. Queen or Baun there. I doubt he drops but if he did I would have to think hard about Leviska Shenault. We could use him the way the Saints use Michael Thomas as a big #1 possession WR that moves the sticks. |
Lol only that butt****ing moron PAChiefsGuy would try to diminish Veach’s role in winning a SB
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If you lived through the Jack Steadman years, you would know it was absurd. |
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Second I didn't diminish anything. I said he has done a good if not great job since he has been here but I also acknowledged he came into a great situation. Sorry if I'm not a homer like you. |
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Pretty much anybody who has a clue realizes this now. |
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pretty much the whole board in December: -Spags was a great hire! PA Chiefsguy-, meh, we'll see after the season. pretty much all of Chiefs Kingdom in December: Frank Clark is really coming on! Good signing. PA Chiefsguy- meh, we'll see after the play-offs. Anyone who watches the NFL- Honey Badger was a tremendous signing! Total difference maker! PA Chiefsguy- meh, we'll see after the end of the season. Dude. Season's over. We won the Super Bowl. Veach has done a great job. |
all of that being said, I fully expect:
we tag and trade Jones we release Watkins and LDT. We enter the draft with 7 picks, 5 in the first three rounds. We have cap money to shore up weak spots in FA. |
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Frank Clark had 8 sacks all season, 8... Lets not act like he was Aaron Donald.. He killed it for half the season and was great against the run. The signing was worth it because he brought a much needed attitude to the defense and killed it in the playoffs but don't act like we got some type of bargain. Gave up an arm and a leg for the guy. Good signing though for sure. And again, plenty of other people were skeptical about him as well. I don't watch the Texans much. My life doesn't revolve around football. Great signing though. Love the Honey Badger! Yes the season is over and we won the SB but so what that doesn't mean I'm not entitled to an opinion or that Veach wasn't put in a great situation. Im rooting for Veach as much as anyone but the fact some of you think he should have been executive of the year is laughable. |
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Did you even watch the Superbowl? |
Doubling down. Bold strategy. Let's see if it pays off.
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Come on guys. Yeah we won the SB but that doesn't mean Veach was perfect. Take off the homer blinders for a second will you. |
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come on, man. My point is that at every turn EVER you say, "well, wait and see until X". And we're all saying, yeah well-we finished the season, and we won the damned superbowl for ****'s sake- and you still say- TOO SMALL A SAMPLE SIZE. You must be a lot of fun to be around. |
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He was worth every ****ing penny dumbass. |
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I never said his contract was worth it- I never said Veech was perfect. I posted: His other big moves panned out when it counted most as well- Sammy, Honey Badger, Hitchens and Clark all played well through the playoffs and SB. If you want to dispute THIS statement, go ahead. But stop making shit up just to post a snarky reply. STFU |
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There were two problems with the Chiefs’ game against the titans in the 17 playoffs: 1) your boi “Smitty” played like a chickenshit coward, as was his way 2) the offense stagnated when Kelce was out because there was no one to take pressure off Hill in the passing game 1) was taken care of when Veach fleeced the Redskins 2) was answered by adding Watkins. He didn’t produce huge numbers week in, week out, but he added a dimension that could roast single coverage and make plays when Hill/Kelce were not available They overpaid, but they overpaid with a purpose. |
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Swing and a huge miss, wtf are you talking about I give your draft draft grade a D- |
So, in non-Sammy pissing contest news, Veachy was reported in today's Athletic article as having 1st round grades on 23 players (up from 15 last year).
Likely a good prospect falls to us at 32. Also makes it a good year to trade Jones. |
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Sammy won't be back with the Chiefs unless he restructures to a salary so low it would get him kicked out of the NFLPA.
I appreciate the hell out of the plays he made for us in the playoffs - I really do. He should never have to buy another drink/meal in KC for the rest of his life. But what he made last year is just way too much money for a guy with that type of production. It just is. We could find a guy in this draft to replace his production for 1/10th-1/20th of his salary. No way they're keeping both Sammy and Jones. |
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Hey no GM is perfect. Its not a huge deal since we won the SB but your post has homer BS written all over it. |
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He’s still arguably the best in the business after what he’s accomplished. |
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Just keep making up arguments in your own head though. LMAO |
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You can call it crying I call it being objective. I'm not going to give Veach a pass for mistakes because Chiefs won the SB and I'm sure he would say the same thing. Overall, he has been good to great but the Watkins contract is nuts. I don't give a damn if and everyone else here thinks I'm wrong. I'm not a follower. Hopefully Veach learned from the Watkins signing. He already has said that Watkins will not be brought back at his current salary so that is a good sign. |
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There were other teams vying to sign Watkins- it is not like they were offering 5 million a year and Veech recklessly said- **** it- lets blow this shit out of the water-lol His production hasn't lived up to it so far, but it not like Veech way overpaid at the time. But we won a Superbowl and he contributed to that-so who ****ing cares. It was still the correct move to sign him. But carry on being negative and miserable. |
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He was brought in to help a young QB and win a Super Bowl. He was crucial to both. No ****ing way is that a mistake. He’s only been paid an elite cap hit one time (this year). Seriously if you think that Sammy Watkins was a mistake after what happened, idk what to tell you. |
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Im not miserable. Don't mistake being objective for being miserable. You are carrying on just as much as I am so you might want to take your own advice Go Chiefs |
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Veach scouted Mahomes. Veach signed Honey Badger, Clark, Ogbah, Okafor, Pennel, Breeland, Watkins, Damien Wilson, Damien Williams, Suggs. The end result was a Super Bowl win. Reid's been a good coach for twenty years. No ring. Add Veach's guys: Looka that! Super Bowl ring. I really don't know how anyone can argue with that. I really don't. |
Veach was the driving force that brought one of the best QBs in history to our team.
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My point: some of you seem to lionize Veach only because we won a Super Bowl. I was on Team Veach from the beginning when he was cutting his losses early with the Amerson release. I liked that he tried to bring in talented reclamation projects like Erving, Ragland, and Benjamin, and I always thought his mantra of changing the attitude of the defense was exactly what we needed (and what he ultimately succeeded in). If we had fallen just short in the SB, I wouldn’t feel remotely different. Veach is outstanding. |
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Every one should keep in mind Reid deserves a lot of credit for the Veach hire. Veach was with Reid in Philly and Im sure Reid brought him to KC.
I guarantee you Reid has a hell of a lot more influence on our draft picks w Veach here than he did w Dorsey. In Reid we trust! |
Are we really criticizing someone who delivered 14 catches for 288 yards on 16 targets in the postseason? God this reminds me of the double-downers who continued to criticize Johnny Cueto after the Royals won it all.
Playoff Sammy was our secret weapon. Sure DRob or Albert Wilson could have replicated his regular season production at bargain bin prices - but what King Carl, Scott Pioli, and previous bargain bin hunters never understood was that its much easier for bargain bin folks to rack up stats during 12 o clock regular season games against a 2-10 team. You would think after watching players like that perpetually disappear against elite talent in the playoffs we’d realize that, but yeah, it still isn’t happening. We had money to bring in elite production over the bargain bin - and we paid 16 million for Sammy to deliver at an elite #1 level when it counted the most - and he delivered. |
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I'm okay with it but unlike many of the homers here I still view it as a mistake made by Veach. That said we won the SB and Veach is the youngest GM in the league. He'll learn from this. The signing is clearly not the end of the world. It worked out and I seriously doubt Veach will do that again.. We have Mahomes and one of the greatest offensive play designers, if not the greatest play designer ever in Reid. There's no need to overpay for a WR. |
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You want to say he wasn’t worth it because of the regular season? Bad take IMO, but it’s not reeruned. To say we could’ve gotten someone cheaper to do the same thing Watkins has done in the postseason? Now THAT’S ****ing reeruned. |
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He built a team of winners. |
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BUT Some of Veachs best work was on defense, which I doubt Reid was dictating. Further some of the best work I’ve ever seen was in-season which Reid wasn’t making calls and combing through tape and lists during the week. Reid deserves a ****load of credit. Especially given the shitpocalypse he walked into after almost a Decade Of Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards and Scott Franchise Killer Pioli with the finishing touches being murder/suicide. Reid is my guy. For life. But Veach deserves credit. He has killed this shit. |
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Not even close, dude. Those are elite numbers, and they are going to get elite compensation. Remember how Albert Wilson would completely disappear in matchups like the playoff game against the Steelers and you/other Alex folks would say this was why opposing teams would be able to lock down Tyreek and would take Alex's options away? Sammy is paid to deliver in the games that Albert Wilson and even great receivers like Jeremy Maclin did not - and he's doing just that. |
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