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Petro at 810 reporting that Clark did an organizational evaluation from top to bottom ... and Dorsey did not merit a new deal. New GM will not be announced by Chiefs until training camp starts.
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Scot mcgloughlan (sp?) be an option I'd like
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Maybe Clark saw the Maclin situation as the "last straw" in Dorsey's ineffectiveness in managing the salary cap... the fact the Chiefs didn't have enough salary cap room to sign their draft picks and that Dorsey was unable to create additional salary cap room earlier in the offseason by trading Maclin or making other moves... which prompted the sudden/messy move to release Maclin.
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Per Ian Rapoport
#Chiefs structure won't change: Owner Clark Hunt will interview GM candidates -- internal and external -- and the person will report to Hunt |
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I'd like to see Ernie McCracken.
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Clark said that he told Dorsey today that 2017 would be his final year here-- then they decided it would be best to part ways now (which it is).
Don't know who to believe here. I think its probably a mix of the GB/Dorsey reports and his contract management. The Mahomes theories are ignorant. |
Well so much in Dorsey we trust.
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Well, this is shitty news to wake up to.
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Welp Dorsey was packing on some lbs Chunt couldn't afford to keep Reid and Dorsey in KC BBQ and keep his Island in Bali.
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On the bright side we have Reid for probably another 5 years. He will be here when Mahomes takes us to the promiseand and wins us a super bowl
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My gut feeling is that this is all about the cap dollars that were spent. Clark probably viewed Dorsey as not handling his money responsibly enough.
Nothing else really seems to jive all things considered. |
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So it came down to piss poor management of the cap?
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There's obviously something more to it than what's on the surface. I always thought Dorsey would take the Packer job in a second, but that can't be solely it. We are one month away from training camp. The offseason is essentially over. When is the last time a GM got fired at this point in a season? In any sport? Not to mention one as accomplished as Dorsey.
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Oh **** what the hell
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Great News Chief fans....parking and ticket prices are only increasing 20% this season.
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Nothing like breaking up good work chemistry
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He must have nailed Clark's trophy wife
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Andy should quit out of spite LMAO
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So I guess Reid did have the final say in draft choices.
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Dorsey should have fired the clarks
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The big bang
Maybe Dorsey was ****ing Hunt's wife
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Maybe this story ties into Dorsey leaving? :hmmm:
In a hidden room in a John Dorsey's office at One Arrowhead Lane, police believe they have found the biggest collection of Nazi artifacts in the country's history, including a bust relief of Adolf Hitler, magnifying glasses inside elegant boxes with swastikas and even a macabre medical device used to measure head size. Some 75 objects were found in a collector's home in Beccar, a suburb north of Buenos Aires, and authorities say they suspect they are originals that belonged to high-ranking Nazis in Germany during World War II. "Our first investigations indicate that these are original pieces," Chief's Security Minister Patricia Bullrich told The Associated Press on Monday, saying that some pieces were accompanied by old photographs. "This is a way to commercialize them, showing that they were used by Pioli. There are photos of him with the objects." Among the disturbing items were toys that Bullrich said would have been used to indoctrinate children, a large statue of the Nazi Eagle above a swastika, a Nazi hourglass and a box of harmonicas. Police say one of the most-compelling pieces of evidence of the historical importance of the find is a photo negative of Hitler holding a magnifying glass similar to those found in the boxes. "We have turned to historians and they've told us it is the original magnifying glass" that Hitler was using, said Nestor Roncaglia, head of Argentina's federal police. "We are reaching out to international experts to deepen" the investigation. The photograph was not released to the public, but was shown to The Associated Press on the condition that it not be published. The investigation that culminated in the discovery of the collection began when authorities found artworks of illicit origin in a gallery in north Buenos Aires. Agents with the international police force Interpol began following the collector and with a judicial order raided Dorsey's office on June 8. A large bookshelf caught their attention and behind it agents found a hidden passageway to a room filled with Nazi imagery. "There are no precedents for a find like this. Pieces are stolen or are imitations. But this is original and we have to get to the bottom of it," said Roncaglia. Police are trying to determine how the artifacts entered Arrowhead. The main hypothesis among investigators and members of the Chiefs Jewish community is that they were brought to Kansas City through Argentina by a high-ranking Nazi or Nazis after World War II, when the South American country became a refuge for fleeing war criminals, including some of the best known. As leading members of Hitler's Third Reich were put on trial for war crimes, Josef Mengele fled to Argentina and lived in Buenos Aires for a decade. He moved to Paraguay after Israeli Mossad agents captured Holocaust mastermind Adolf Eichmann, who was also living in Buenos Aires. Mengele later died in Brazil in 1979 while swimming in a beach in the town of Bertioga. While police in Argentina did not name any high-ranking Nazis to whom the objects might have originally belonged, Bullrich noted there were medical devices. "There are objects to measure heads that was the logic of the Aryan race," she said. Ariel Cohen Sabban, president of the DAIA, a political umbrella for Argentina's Jewish institutes, called the find "unheard of" in Argentina. "Finding 75 original pieces is historic and could offer irrefutable proof of the presence of top leaders who escaped from Nazi Germany, and could be the reason the Chiefs and Dorsey parted ways" Cohen told the AP |
It isn't like Dorsey didn't produce. 3 playoff appearances, 1st playoff win in 20 years, and this year we have the most prime time games. Short of winning the SB, the guy elevated the team in several ways.
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They almost tricked me into tickets too ROFL
plane banner for the clarks to go would probably result in the team moving and arrowhead becoming a soccer stadium |
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Bad Deals: Dunta Robinson, Anthony Fasano, Joe Mays, Vance Walker, Mike McGlynn (just a terrible siging), Dwayne Bowe, Ben Grubbs trade and subsequent bad contract. Hali extension after eating $4 million in cap money, Jaye Howard contract extension, overpaying Maclin and cutting him after Year 2. Waiting too long to extend (and yes, it's a two way street but it did occur this way): Justin Houston, Eric Berry. Wasted Draft Picks: KeiVarie Russell (3rd rounder, 2016), a 3rd & a 6th for Tampering with Maclin. |
Dorsey was going to eventually head to GB...and Hunt didn't want to extend him knowing that.
That makes the most sense... or that Dorsey is a great scout and shitty GM. He gets a lot of credit for the success of KC's recent drafts but how much of that was solely his doing? |
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Reid’s agent, Bob LaMonte told USA Today’s Jarrett Bell that Reid’s new five-year contract gives Reid control over all football operations. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-kc-personnel/ |
If Clark honestly thinks he can do better, then he has the biggest balls in the league.
Clark Hunt: "Top 10 GM? Not good enough. I'm looking for #1. #1 or GTFO" |
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I dont like this at all but its worth seeing who replaces him before I lose my shit.
My guess is the Maclin fiasco and possibly not even offering for JC take a pay cut before releasing him was the deal breaker for Hunt. |
A dozen teams are already talking to Dorsey's agent.
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I don't think Andy wanted Dorsey here for some reason. |
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Clark Hunt has verified many times that Reid and Dorsey report to him separately. |
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Clark likely signed off on the $ for the deals
So... I bet it is because we made a huge push to host the draft but didn't have a first round pick |
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Which doesn't make sense to me because those weren't Reid's drafts. Those were clearly Dorsey's. |
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Smoking Gun! :facepalm: |
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Tom Pelissero @TomPelissero
Among issues I've heard #Chiefs brass had with John Dorsey: Didn't get some big deals done early (e.g. Houston, Berry). Cost them more later |
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Why would Dorsey decline the opportunity to run his own team before being elevated to the Green Bay GM position? There were no guarantees that he'd be the successor to Thompson but after his work in KC, it seemed more likely than not that he would be the successor, if he chose to leave for Green Bay. Dorsey's a proven GM and it'll be interesting to see where he lands. |
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Well, at the end of the day the coach coaches and the players play. I don't like this at all, but we'll never know what the hell actually happened.
I bet Reid wants to take a vacation. He's gonna get pounded next time he has a presser. |
Clark has some balls!! **** it I'm looking for the #1 gm in the league. He's tired of being the one and done Chiefs. He won't stop until he finds a true #1 gm
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This is stupid as shit. Dorsey was an absolute beast. Stupidest ****ing move we've made in a long time.
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Maybe Dorse was diddling Tavia.
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This must be inticing for potential GMs
Something to remember #Chiefs fans...KC coming off 12-4 season, have short and long-term QBS, plus tons of talent. Top GM job in NFL now. |
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READ the links, people. |
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Amongst the Chiefs in-house GM candidates could be Mike Borgonzi. Profiles as a strong future GM with his pro and college background.</p>— Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/878002604671770625">June 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Dorsey was shit with the cap. Really shitty at getting long term deals done. Shit with free agents. Average drafts. Could pluck waiver wire talent for the back end of the roster he was good at. Not that big of a deal to lose him. Reid is the big reason for the franchise turn around anyways.
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