Wilson breakout year confirmed ?

He already had his breakout year 2 year ago. Sometimes 450 yards is a breakout.

Next year it will be Alex.

We will all celebrate

Considering this was Reid's handpicked WR (twice)...there must be something more than just money happening. I'll have to trust Dorsey as Andy signed off on it too...He was injured in the wild card game and then essentially disappeared.

The only play I really remember Maclin making last season...was the back shoulder TD catch in game one.

JFK...

Now we got cap room for Manziel

This is true.

But 28-3.

That thread will break CP. There will be top shelf posts, gifs and so forth.

I haven't had a chance to read this whole thread yet, but didn't someone here predict this was coming?

Doesn't matter.

As DJ's Left Nut has pointed out so effectively, Alex Smith is Even Steven.

Maclin or no Maclin, Smith is going to produce essentially the same numbers as he always does.

I'm guessing Demarcus Robinson has a good year. A lot like Steven Nelson. Special Teams rookie year, and contributor year 2

I don't see anyone ready to step up and be our no 1.

Perhaps we think we can trade/sign one during the preseason...

Not sure. However, there was an article written a couple of months back about why the Chiefs could do this. It suggested that it would be "unpopular" but also would make good sense.

Is there a defense out there actually scared of our offense right now?

Double Hill with a single high safety, bracket Kelce and see if the nobodies can beat you?

Is that the easiest gameplan in the NFL right now or what. Like I can't wait for checkdowns to CJ Spiller, I'm really excited for this season. One reads to Hill or Kelce and immediate dump off to some scrub.

See milkmans post, right above you. Alex don't need no number 1 silly! He will do the same no matter who is lining up at wr.

The future is bright, only one more year of QB hell!

Maclin was gone a lot, so in reality the Chiefs never had a #1.

Exactly...I think what's going on here is the Chiefs are quietly clearing the way for the Mahomes era that could begin next season. Some of the moves they're making now might be unpopular this season, but make sense and need to happen. The trick to cutting veteran players is being able to realize when they "hit the wall" in their careers. Get it right, and you're good. Hold on too long, and you're not. Balance that between how the contracts are structured...The Chiefs aren't sacrificing this season as some have suggested. They know with or without certain high priced players, they'll be in contention record-wise, but the reality is they'll only get so far with Smith. So, give the reps to the young guys and help them develop, so they will be ready to help the young QB when he steps in. Now is the right time for the moves so we can set the stage going forward.

Crazy and somewhat unexpected move.

Some thoughts before I read through the thread...

Last year, he looked like he hit the wall for vet receivers. Looked slow, not as physical and even disinterested. Age and injuries seem to have caught up to him.

Looking long term, every move needs to be made so Mahomes steps in with pieces around him to help him succeed and Maclin was in decline. Give those reps and targets to the young guys that will still be here when Mahomes takes over.

Andy is one of Jeremy's best friends, I'm sure he knew this was coming.

The team had 2 real cost effective options to clear cap space ... extend/restructure Alex (which he's publicly said he was open to) or cut Maclin. Looking at the big picture, this was a smart move. Can't pay Ferrari money and get corrola production.

It's no mistake or coincidence that this move was done June 2nd. This splits the dead money and gives flexibility with the cap to work an extension or 2. I'm thinking Dee Ford, Terrance Mitchell and Bennie Logan are the guys in line for possible in season extensions.

Maybe they have their eye on a player they feel gets cut that they feel can help KC this year.

If the cap space isn't used this year, it will be rolled into next year to use effectively.

Anyways, I'm perfectly fine with this move.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs will need Conley, Robinson from the 16th draft to take pressure off of Hill. Robinson is the sleeper and Chiefs love his potential</p>&mdash; Michael Lombardi (@mlombardiNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/870970361768226817">June 3, 2017</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So they cut reid's two time hand picked wr days after he attends his wedding and there are still people thinking there is no way they would just cut Alex Smith next year?

Idiots

lol

Technically, next year's cap situation just got a lot better with this move and when you consider hali, dj , and jah are likely gone.

Better than giving him an extension as he approaches 30 like you guys did with Sanders :shrug:

https://media.giphy.com/media/S3Ot3hZ5bcy8o/giphy.gif

I think so. He has skills, but he had lazy study habits and off-field issues. If his head is screwed on straight and he learned to run the correct route tree, he could be an excellent receiver.

In 2 years we got 27 games, 1624 yards, and 10 touchdowns.


Oh, how will we go on?

WHat has Demarcus Robinson done that makes anyone think he's ready to contribute? Not being argumentative, I'm seriously wondering. I don't recall him doing anything of note last year.

I don't recall seeing him on the field except preseason.

Lots of reports that Robinson and Conley are stepping up and ready to take the next step in their careers.

Dorsey swingeth a quick and merciless axe.

Sauto is correct.

Cap'n poopy pants will be in the middle of his 563'rd check-dump when that blade quietly lops his head right off.

Apparently he's looked great in OTAs. If he knows the Offense he can make some noise with 3-4 targets a game. Between Hunt, Ware, Conley, Tyreek, Kelce, TE#2 , Wilson, WR3 there are just not enough looks to go around... Makes the maclin cut make more sense

Read the reports from OTAs. Lots of really good stuff said about him and the work he put in during the offseason to be ready for 2017.

I'm laughing because people are justifying this move as an excuse to help Mahomes. The fact is when you have a young QB who you are trying to develop, an experienced WR is essential in helping that young QB grow because that WR, and especially Maclin, understands the offense. This move make zero sense. Maclin knows Reid's offense and he could have really helped Mahomes.

He didn't do diddly last year. Had a few good catches but too many drops and couldn't get separation.

Surprised but not saddened.......

Just saw this thread.. haven't read all the posts but after OTAs they probably saw he still can't get open even against 2nd and 3rd teamers.... They have a plan.. let's hope it's a good one..

Overall, it was a great day for the offense, and specifically for Smith, who fired completions all over the field and enough dimes down the field that had players talking on both sides of the ball.


The best throw-and-catch of the day came on a pass from Smith to Robinson on a vertical route down the right sideline, which travelled at least 40 yards through the air and hit Robinson in stride for the touchdown.

"He's a great guy-love Alex, man," Robinson said. "He's a great dude. He's smart, so I just learned a lot from him over the offseason. [That work] was a tremendous part of me being able to do what I was able to do today."

Robinson showed out as one of the best athletes on the field on Wednesday, and he couldn't help but let those trying to cover him know who was winning the day.

http://m.chiefs.com/news/article-2/A...d-8e248b512017

Stephen Serda
I've been saying all OTA's how much work Demarcus Robinson is getting w/ the first team not Chesson. #Chiefs must like what they see.

Producer at 610 radio that has access to OTA's. Didn't realize Robinson was getting first team reps.
That says a lot about what the Chiefs think about him.

Starting to get excited........

Cool, thank you. Would be fantastic if he can produce and replace Maclin (which isn't that much, obvi).

I think it's just great that Alex can hit so many downfield passes in no risk practice.

With do many young guys at the position, I almost expect one of them to really step up and seize the opportunity.

If not, a WR will surely be a priority in the 2018 draft.

Here and I expected a WR struggling for a spot on the depth chart to talk about Alex Smith like a Chiefs Planeteer.

I have heard the Robinson hype.

I'm skeptical. KC has had a LOT of off-season and training camp heros who turned out incredibly disappointing. It's common across the league really.

Of course, often times it is simply that the player grew and developed. Guys can develop VERY quickly in their first three years. Sometimes they'll go from rookie shit to sophomore star.

It's a curiosity, but I'll temper expectations... particularly with #11 throwing the ball.

Most people can't do that publicly and maintain gainful employment involving reason and analytical skill.

Alex is frustrating, but this place is hyperbolic as hell.

I mean, people STILL pretend he's as bad as Matt Cassel.

It's actually kind of weird that Matt Cassel had more support from this place than Smith.

I know collectively both were hated, but christ... Cassel had more than ONE defender and he was much worse.

Smith has more than one defender at CP.

Thankfully, most of them are transplant Frisco trash and not longtime Chiefs fans.

Maclin is injury prone, and he is almost 30. Conley, Hill, Wilson, Robinson, and Chesson will all be vets that know the offense by the time Mahomes is the starter. The best way to help Mahomes is to get the most out of our cap while we have him on a rookie contract. We have a good group of young WR's for him to grow with, and will continue drafting them.

This was day 2 of practice. Without Peters, Berry, and Houston.

Typical day 2 report from every season.

This looks more like what we are use too:

http://prod.images.chiefs.clubs.nflc...960&height=720

Casssel attempted to make plays that exposed how bad he was.

Smith doesn't have the balls to attempt those plays most of the time, so you can say he is safer, but you can not actually gauge if he is better.

The fact that Robinson is getting first team reps this early leads me to believe they expect him to take a huge step forward.

That's such bullshit. Cassel made stupid plays that exposed how bad he was at football. Whether you think he's too safe or not, the mere fact that Alex doesn't try the reeruned shit Cassel did and does makes him better.

The fact that Alex doesn't doink hail marys off the goal post, or throw a flea flicker into a lineman's back is not a mark against him.

Does everyone remember the draft pick we lost because of Maclin?

This has been a fairly bad signing when you think about it.

I'm thinking they feel like Hill will be the #1 WR. If that's true, it is happening much faster than I expected.

Please stop talking about Cassel.


His name should never be mentioned here again.

Good God you Alex Smith haters hate of Alex Smith is borderline obsession. You blame him for everything that is wrong with the Chiefs. Let it go already.

- Chiefs have a good record with Alex Smith as their QB - doesn't matter wins and losses are a team accomplishment
-Chiefs lose to the Colts in the playoffs despite scoring 44 pts - we lost because of Alex Smith
-Chiefs run D gives up a lot of yds to the Steelers in a playoff gm - Alex Smiths fault
- Maclin gets cut - Alex Smiths fault
- Your wife cheats on you - Alex Smiths fault

Let me guess the crisis with North Korea is Alex Smith's fault too?

And?

He's a goner unless he wins a super bowl

He just can't bring himself to say it.

Makes me think of the James Thrash and Freddie Mitchell duo in Philadelphia.....bleh...

ROFL, typical ota and training camp Alex Smith.

Good to hear about Robinson though.

Playing safe is not playing smart.

Yeah, all those rushing yards on the scoreboard really put the Chiefs in a serious bind.

Alex wins and I like that. We will win at least one playoff game without Maclin and a big part of the reason why will be Alex. He's been a good QB for KC. Don't over complicate it. I don't think he can win a Super Bowl but, I don't have a problem with him being our QB for another year or two.

I still think we are going to see Mahomes this season. Either the first game after the BYE at the G-men, or the next game at home. 6 or 7 games to get on the job training.

I may be the only one on this bandwagon, but I am fine with that.

Yep

Plus the Star says we're still over the cap for next year even after his release. Dorsey is awful at managing the cap.

No, the fact that he doesn't make plays is a mark against him.

Do they cut back on Hill's return duties if he's WR1?

No. This is a clear sign that the regime isn't "all in" on winning a Super Bowl this year.

They are preparing for the future.

It will be interesting to see if Reek can handle drawing the opposition's top corner every week now.

He needs to start doing more WR things and less "gadget" things. Almost half of his receptions were behind the line of scrimmage last year.

What if Dorsey found not one, but two, starting quality WR's on day 3 of last years draft?

I can still see him returning punts.

They've been drafting a lot of WRs in the top four rounds. Usually, you'd expect players drafted that high to compete as a starter. Looks like it's time.

It says they knew Maclin was gone.

You realize both things can be true, right?

Robinson's combine notes:
Immensely talented with elite combination of straight-*line speed and quick*-twitch athleticism. Robinson flashes game*-breaking potential as a deep ball threat and after the catch, but was suspended by two different coaches over a three-year period. While Robinson is likely to test off the charts and has the talent to be a top four receiver in this draft, it is hard to imagine his draft slot equaling his talent due to his character concerns.

WR1 - Hill
WR2 - Conley
WR3 - Robinson

That's likely not that bad. All need reps before playing with Mahomes. Tons of athleticism there. Hill is your guy to take the top off, and the other two can too but they are likely to be reliable, big targets underneath.

Yeah, no, that's pretty awful. Defensive coordinators will take that kind of lineup every Sunday in the NFL and count their blessings.

They have a lot to prove.

It doesn't matter, though, because Alex Smith gets the same out of every wide receiver whether they are Chris Conley or Cris Carter.

You have never been more wrong. This move prepares us now and especially for 2018. Most wide receivers have their breakout season in year two, after learning the Offense. Robinson will not be a high volume guy so long as Kelce, Reek, Conley, hunt/Ware do their jobs. His potential this season will be to get the same volume as what Harris got last year. If that.

Reek and Kelce will be 900- 1100 yard guys

Gee, maybe that's why they just replaced the Pro Personnel scout?

It would seem like you'd take away his most dangerous weapon if he didn't.
Still, I can see a lot of Chiefs fans holding their breath when he does. :D

Stupid. Our running game will open up opportunities. Kelce will abuse linebackers that sell out trying to stop Hunt

This was said by mutliple draft gurus last year. Like Reek, Robinson isn't your average day 3 talent.

WR3: Robinson, DAT, Wilson -- depending on the week's gameplan