just wondering wtf people were thinking about with giving some loon that money to handle.

The drama in that thread got so bad I had to stop reading. What was the final outcome? Anybody get their money back?

I'm not sure what this is about, but it made me wander over to RoyalsPlanet.... It's still Hootie, screaming into a void of nothing...

I had forgotten about Royals Planet. I went over there just now. Hootie crying about Dane and talking shit about the lack of traffic on Chiefs Planet from an obviously dead, pretend message board. Kind of funny in a sad way.

The movie wrapped so once they get into Post, the leaks should begin in earnest.

:D

Just saw the new Rogue One trailer. It has Vader at the end. Or at least his breath. :D

It was a little difficult to make out the final shot. Might have been his reflection.

https://streamable.com/rzww

That's def DVs voice

That was bootlegged from Star Wars Celebration Europe.

Yes, definitely Vader.

im more and more stoked about rogue and the rest of this trilogy..

trailer trailer!

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GOD DAMN ****ING TEASING ASSHOLES!

Thanks anyway, Clay.

There's an actual thread for Rogue One.

Please use it.

There is still a year-and-a-half to go till Star Wars: Episode VIII arrives in theaters, which means that fans are left with ample time to speculate on what lies ahead in the famed film franchise. Directed Rian Johnson provided a fresh hint to obsess over on Thursday when he posted a new set photo on Tumblr. The image doesn’t give away much — it’s just a robe in a cave — but nonetheless, it set off a flurry of fan activity.

At this point, principal photography is thought to be nearly complete, according to Cnet. Johnson certainly seemed to indicate as much in his caption, which reads, “In the home stretch.” Although he let the picture do all the talking, fans were more than happy to use words to discuss what they think the significance of the cloak is after Johnson also posted it on Twitter.

Many assumed the robe was Luke Skywalker’s, given that he was last seen in The Force Awakens wearing a similar — if not the same — one. From there, others made the leap that it spelled bad news for the Jedi. “RIP Luke,” wrote user Dave Donovan.

Meanwhile, still other fans are convinced that the robe belongs to Rey (Daisy Ridley), and that Luke is either training her and/or is her father.

As much as Star Wars die-hards were happy to discuss their theories, there were also plenty of people who turned it all into a joke — as should be expected. The photo also inspired quips about laundry detergent, what Johnson wears to work, a nude Jedi, and the robe itself being Rey’s father. Ah, the internet.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/movies/...4&kwp_1=382911

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I appreciate the theory and research, but man that guy's presentation is absolutely horrible. His intonations are grating I'd rather put my head in a vice.

I like this guy's theory too...

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Was it Stupendous Wave, or that other guy who should probably never speak in to a microphone ever in life?

Prince is the best. His videos are awesome.

I really like how Stupendous Wave breaks down all his ideas with detailed research and well thought out points, but yeah, his voice was not made for radio. He makes great points, but his voice and inflections are distracting.

This guy is much worse:


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I would love to read Stupendous Wave's ideas in article format. He's obviously intelligent and his theories are well researched. His articulation is awful though. Sounds like he's 14 years old, standing in front of his English class and his teacher is telling him to "give it more feeling" or some such. Ugh.

Ugh. Stupendous Wave goes to college, takes over the 4am campus radio talk show, gets a new retainer, and just starts throwing shit at a wall that has nothing to do with his original fact.

And then there's the guy that looks like a roadie for Anthrax.

Supposedly, this is a "Plot Leak".

The odd thing about it is that there's no mention of the fight between Luke and the Knights of Ren (which was recorded by a fan, in which the battle is clearly seen) and there's no mention of Benicio Del Toro's character.

The information about Snoke is interesting, however.

Isn't that the third thing listed on the first image? KOR vs. Luke??

Lando as the Candyman, we're to assume. Could Del Toro be "Mystery"? And it has "KOR vs. Luke" at the very beginning.

And I kind of wish I hadn't read that, lol.

Knights of Ren

I saw that but I didn't see any detail.

I got ya, still lots of great info there overall.

I kind of hope it's not Lando, especially considering his fate. Do we really need to see that, too?

The senator mentioned is definitely Laura Dern. I guess "Mystery" could be Del Toro. I didn't think of that during my first reading.

I wonder if there's any validity to the report?

It was initially posted on Reddit and pulled down almost immediately.

Someone got a screen capture and posted on imgur.

i don't care what the **** is in that leak

i'm not reading it

after being spoiled for the entire plot of VII I am not making the same mistake

And I'll never go into a Star Wars film without spoilers, ever again.

You missed the one about brother/sister.

Anywho, a better reading than most of the crap that has been floating about.

I believe "Mystery" is the Chinese chick that snuggles up to Finn.

That was my initial thought but I had heard that Disney wanted her role to be greatly reduced.

Maybe this is an early draft, if it's true at all.

Mark Hamill confirms he'll be in Episode IX


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Haven&#39;t seen my chin since May &#39;15, so <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/FarewellFacialFur?src=hash">#FarewellFacialFur</a> &amp; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ByeByeBeard?src=hash">#ByeByeBeard</a> (at least til <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/EpisodeIX?src=hash">#EpisodeIX</a>) <a href="https://twitter.com/popculturequest">@popculturequest</a> <a href="https://t.co/gaScz1okk6">pic.twitter.com/gaScz1okk6</a></p>&mdash; Mark Hamill (@HamillHimself) <a href="https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/770677448396578816">August 30, 2016</a></blockquote>
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w00t!

Spoiler alert.

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I know Stupendous Wave's voice isn't a favorite, so apologies for that. Just found the vid interesting.

In that vid's comments, someone posted a theory that Luke himself is the one that slaughtered all the padawans. Interesting, but not sure where to take that.

Good god; we can't get legit plot-leaks soon enough.

I don't think there's any chance of that happening.

What I do find interesting is the speculation about Rey's "Force Back" in TFA. Since it's premiere on Starz this month, it's been on constantly because the kids love it.

There's been speculation that half of Rey's vision is about the future, not the past, including the scene with the dead bodies and the Knights of Ren. I'm not sure I buy that but one thing I did notice is that in that particular vision, Kylo Ren seems to "see" her in that vision and moves towards her.

That's something I hadn't picked up on before.

Yep. The rumorville has been dry lately. Rogue One has everyone's attention.

Oh, there's a ton of legit plot leaks out there that match up very well with fan footage and pictures.

Outside of a few character names, it seems like the script has been mostly leaked, save for confirmation of a few twists.

It's going to be quiet for a while because filming has been completed (save for pick up shots next year) and the film's in the edit bay, which is locked down.

I think it'll probably be at least a year before we have a full plot synopsis.

My interpretation was that she was witnessing a past event from Luke's perspective, rather than her own.

I agree with this.

If that was the case, and I'm not proclaiming that it's not, why didn't Luke destroy them all immediately?

Supposedly, Kylo Ren is the only Force user of the bunch.

Luke's enclave may have been under attack from FO forces as well. Those might not be the only students who were killed, just the ones at that particular spot in the battle.

Not enough info., too many variables.

Well, the only thing is that by all reports (video evidence as well), Luke takes on the KoR and destroys them all. Rey & Kylo have a rematch where Rey is injured but not killed and Ren runs away from Luke.

I guess it's possible that Luke didn't kill the KoR earlier because he didn't want to allow his anger to lead him to the Dark Side but that's just massive speculation and would need to be explained somehow, if it was really his perspective in Rey's dream.

My guess is; he was not on-world, he had Rey with him, and returned to the enclave after the fact. He then decided to take her to Jakku.

Except Maz.

Lupita said she hasn't shot her stuff yet.

She's not part of principle photography, which again, has been completed.

She's doing mo-cap, which is Post Production.

It would be strange as another actor in a scene with Lupita acting out with someone who isn't Lupita. Probably stranger for Lupita herself.

I'm sure it happens all the time on any number of movies being made, though.

They may just have someone on set reading her lines and yes, it happens all time, especially in green screen movies.

That's why it's called "acting".

:D

LMAO

Right.

That exact scenario was going to be my conjecture.

Or perhaps another perspective than Luke or Rey. Whatever the case, I never thought it was Ray's own experience, for some reason.

Well, supposedly, we're going to see more of Rey's "Force Back" in Episode VIII that will shine further light on the massacre, including Luke saying "Goodbye" to R2D2 with the map.

This isn't exactly Episode VIII related but I thought it interesting nonetheless.

http://movieweb.com/star-wars-castin...obert-englund/

How Freddy Krueger Found the Perfect Luke Skywalker for Star Wars

There are still a lot of untold stories to be discovered about director George Lucas' original 1977 Star Wars. And today, we get to hear one of the cooler ones. Apparently we can thank Freddy Krueger for finding the perfect Luke Skywalker, as it was actor Robert Englund who helped set up Mark Hamill with his Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope audition. It's a small piece of the puzzle that is amazing to hear, and equally important to the universe as it has been laid out over the past forty years. Especially as we head into Star Wars: Episode VIII, which features Mark Hamill's Jedi Master as the secondary lead.

Back in the 70s, Mark Hamill and Robert Englund were friends, though not the cultural icons they are now. As it turns out, Englund played an important role in getting Mark Hamill in to audition for George Lucas. ForceMaterial.com attended the Oz Comic-Con in Brisbane recently, where this nugget of info was uncovered.

While Englund has become a horror genre icon for his iconic performance in A Nightmare on Elm Street as Freddy Krueger, we could be looking at a whole different pop culture landscape had he actually won a few other auctions he was desperate to lock down. He explains how he got Mark Hamill in to audition for Star Wars after failing to secure a role in another huge production that was shooting at the same time.

"Well, here's what happened. I auditioned for the surfer in Apocalypse Now, and I was too old. I really thought I was going to nail it. I was 170 pounds of solid muscle, I had long, blond hair down my back, and when I went into the audition I was wearing thrift clothes - a pair of tight green Levi jeans, a pair of work boots, and a military green shirt with the sleeves rolled up, and I had dog tags on, too. So I looked a little military, but I looked like a surfer, too. I didn't get the part, and as I started to leave, they said, 'Wait, Robert, they're doing something across the hall with George Lucas'. And I perked right up when I heard 'George Lucas', because I love American Graffiti. It's a perfect movie. The perfect film about my generation. I love it. So my eyes lit up and I went across the hall. They wanted an older Han Solo at that point. They wanted him to be like that cool uncle who just comes around once a year, you know? Luke Skywalker's cool uncle who smokes a joint with him or something. At least that's what they were talking about in the office with me. They just took Polaroids of me and that was it. I could tell I was too young. I don't think Harrison was on their radar at that point; they were all friends but I don't think he was on their radar for that part yet. So anyway, I picked up the sides [the parts of a script used for actors to audition with], went across the street, had a drink at the old Formosa and sat next to Elvis Presley's sound mixer and shot the s**t for an hour. I drove home in my battered old sports car, up into the Hills."

So, Robert Englund auditioned for Han Solo in Star Wars and the surfer in Apocalypse Now, two huge films that resonant to this day. Interesting enough. But it's what happened next that changed the film world forever, and gave Mark Hamill one of the greatest roles of his career. Englund went onto say this about his part in getting Hamill the Luke Skywalker role.

"At that time, Mark Hamill was always on my couch. He was a TV star. He was filming a TV series across the street; I think it was called The Texas Wheelers, with Gary Busey. So he was always at my place, and I knew he was home because his cowboy boots were out front. He always left his boots outside. So there he was, halfway through a six-pack, watching The Mary Tyler Moore Show. I went in and I said to him, 'Look at these sides, I think you're right for this, man. This character is like a space prince, and it's George Lucas!' Mark loved science fiction and horror. I'd been a fanboy, too, but Mark was in arrested development as a fanboy. He'd been an army brat, and he just idolised everything in American popular culture. But he was hip, too! He was into The Kinks, he was into Lenny Bruce, he was into Monty Python before anybody. He turned me on to some of that. So I said to him, 'Mark, you've got to do this, it's George Lucas!' I wasn't even really pushing the space bit, I was just saying, 'Wow, what if you got to be in a George Lucas movie, Mark? You're the kind of actor he loves!' So he got on the phone to his agent and the rest is history. That's the true story. But the internet wants to make it like, you know, I turned down the part of Luke Skywalker for Mark Hamill. I would never have turned it down! F***ing Mark never even paid rent!"

Robert Englund doesn't have any ill will towards Mark Hamill, going onto proclaim his love for his old friend. And says that he was a very generous kind of actor, who was always willing to pick up the check and leave a six-pack in the fridge. The actor then went onto say that the whiney Luke Skywalker that fans meet at the beginning of Star Wars is pretty close to Mark's personality at the time, and amongst his acting peers he had garnered the nickname 'Baby Mark', because he would often thrown little fits whenever something wasn't going his way. Now, all we can do is imagine how things would have been different if Hamill hadn't taken up space on Robert Englund's couch.

Oh shit.

https://www.inverse.com/article/2143...mpaign=organic

Oh my....

LMAO

Yeah, Lucasfilm employees were sharing secrets at SWCE.

LMAO

Here, enjoy this picture of an R2D2 coffee press:

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Do it, Abrams. :D

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Do.... do what?

Put it in the movie. :D

In fact...they probably considered it. This is from the art book. ROFL :shake:

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I... I don't... what?

It's a Death Star encased in a Super Star Destroyer. ROFL

Good to see dick measuring also goes on in a galaxy far, far away.....

That SSS would block out sky from LA to NYC.

Not a complete Episode VIII vid per se, but an interesting "what if" look at what's ahead (and behind) in the Star Wars universe.....

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I predict Dags is going to react favorably and with much hope to that vid. :D

Pablo Hidalgo has already emphatically stated that neither Snoke or Kylo Ren were ever Sith.

He called them "Darthless".

i hope they don't do away with the Sith completely

It wouldn't bother me if they did, as there's enough pre-TFA to mine.

The Knights of Ren might be far more interesting in terms of storytelling.