5 drives 5 TDs in roughly 11 minutes of game clock. That's how pathetic the defense was.

You could do a lot worse than Alex Smith.

Remember last year?

He is not middle of the pack.

Not even close.

He will prove that in the next few seasons with the Chiefs.

His arrow, is still pointing up. I fully see now that it wasn't just bullshit that Andy wanted him. ANDY REALLY WANTED HIM because he saw what apparently no other coach did.

Alex Smith is a good qb. Watch how fast they surround him with talent and BUILD around him.

Agreed. Smith is not a stat quarterback. He manages the offense. And that is what good quarterbacks do. He took the worst team in the league and made them into a high scoring offense with his consistency and accuracy, along with his ability to take care of the football.

Water is wet, so ridiculous.

Yawn. Great QB's make WR's great, not the other way around.

How do you figure? I have been watching Alex Smith since he got drafted into the NFL. It is not an opinion or a bias, it is a fact.

I have watched, EVERY SINGLE GAME, of Alex Smiths career.

I have never seen him take his game to that high of a level ever.

Not even in the saints game two years ago.

He knew when Jamal went down, he would have to step his game up.

That's what LEADERS do.

I hear ya.

I wouldn't blame Alex Smith.

For some reason your D crumbled in the second half.

38-10 and you lose?

How does that happen?

Just about every sports person on TV talked about Luck elevating while Alex Smith couldn't finish the game. Talked about how decision makers around the league understood this. There was a reason that teams were surprised that kc traded for him instead of waiting for him to be released.

You are out of your lane here. he is on your side.

Smith couldn't finish the game? As our defense gave up how many points in one half? I think the focus should have been on that. If you put up 44 points and lose......Enough said.

So have I, the entire roller-coaster ride. And I hated him. It will sound cliche and boring by now, but the 2010 eagles "We want Carr" game was a redefining moment for him. It was one of those moments that you knew that good things were to come. Alex leveled up.

Houston got hurt, Flowers got hurt, Sutton stopped blitzing. They stopped getting pressure on Andrew Luck. It has been a theme all the way back to the first chargers game.

Other teams adjust against the Chiefs in the second half, and the Chiefs never match it.

And without Charles, and Avery, it severely exposed the lack of depth for the Chiefs on offense.

Leading to several key 3 and outs, and Andrew Luck is not a normal MORTAL.

he is everything everyone said he would be.

Again, and I don't understand why people don't get this, the Chiefs had a 28 point lead in the 2nd half. Why did they stop scoring? Was that the defenses fault too?

I love how Avery suddenly becomes this key figure in the Chiefs offense on CP, when just weeks ago he was getting thrown under the bus because he couldn't catch a cold.

No reason why a guy like Jenkins, who Alex has played with before, couldn't burn the DBs Avery burned on his TD.

2010? Where they chanted for carr?

Or are we talking about 2011 where on the road in Philly down 24-3, he led the team all the way back and Justin Smith ran down Jeremy Maclin?

Luck is a beast and he's only going to get better.

This is just his SECOND YEAR!

But as far as adjustments go you know who to blame for that.

That's on your HC and D Coordinator.

Yeah he is always the 49er trolls number one target after Bowe why Alex couldn't do anything.

Who is absolving the offense from faults? People understand that things changed.

Indy was a different animal in the second half of the game. Andrew Luck showed why he is considered the prototype, the Indy pass rush was ridiculous. Not having Charles, and Avery caught up to them, Andy Reids play calling became predictable, and boring, and its NOT THE FIRST TIME. Alex Smith didn't play as well, that's obvious.

It was a full team collapse. Why is that so hard to accept?

2011 was a great year, but he turned it around in the Phily game in 2010, We Want Carr! That was while Dingleberry was still coaching.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhVQaBd-oDA

Nobody cares about 49er games. GTFO off the board.

Uh, because that's not the picture you and the AS blowhards have been painting?

We all know this. However, AS is now a Chief and some fans fall in line, and others don't.

Nobody cares about your interruptions of a discussion, get bent lil puss.

Kansas City Chiefs at 11:47 KC IND

1st and 10 at KC 22 (Shotgun) A.Smith sacked at KC 20 for -2 yards (R.Jean Francois).

2nd and 12 at KC 20 A.Smith pass short left to J.Hemingway to KC 37 for 17 yards (A.Bethea) [R.Mathis].

1st and 10 at KC 37 A.Smith pass short right to K.Davis to 50 for 13 yards (J.Gordy).

1st and 10 at 50 K.Davis up the middle to IND 46 for 4 yards (R.Mathews).

2nd and 6 at IND 46 (Run formation) A.Smith sacked at KC 46 for -8 yards (R.Mathis). FUMBLES (R.Mathis) [R.Mathis], RECOVERED by IND-K.Sheppard at KC 41. K.Sheppard ran ob at KC 41 for no gain. KC - Stephenson (79) reports as eligible. The Replay Assistant challenged the fumble ruling, and the play was Upheld.

Jeff Allen gets a block who knows.




Kansas City Chiefs at 7:32 KC IND
1st and 10 at KC 20 (Shotgun) K.Davis right end to KC 22 for 2 yards (J.Freeman; K.Conner).

2nd and 8 at KC 22 (Run formation) A.Smith right end to KC 25 for 3 yards (L.Landry; J.Chapman).

3rd and 5 at KC 25 (Run formation) A.Smith pass incomplete short right to D.Bowe (J.Gordy).

4th and 5 at KC 25 D.Colquitt punts 47 yards to IND 28, Center-T.Gafford, fair catch by G.Whalen. IND-D.Heyward-Bey was injured during the play. His return is Doubtful.


Bowe drop on 3-5


Kansas City Chiefs at 5:44 KC IND
1st and 10 at IND 28 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short right to D.Bowe to IND 24 for 4 yards (V.Davis).

2nd and 6 at IND 24 (Run formation) K.Davis left tackle to IND 24 for no gain (L.Landry; K.Sheppard).

3rd and 6 at IND 24 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short left.
Timeout #1 by IND at 04:17.

4th and 6 at IND 24 R.Succop 42 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-T.Gafford, Holder-D.Colquitt. 41 24
R.Succop kicks 70 yards from KC 35 to IND -5. L.Brazill to IND 20 for 25 yards (R.Parker).



1st and 10 at KC 19 (Run formation) A.Smith pass deep left to D.Bowe to KC 40 for 21 yards (D.Butler).

1st and 10 at KC 40 (Run formation) A.Smith pass short right to K.Davis to KC 39 for -1 yards (J.Freeman).

2nd and 11 at KC 39 (Shotgun) A.Smith left end to IND 48 for 13 yards (D.Butler).

1st and 10 at IND 48 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short right to A.Fasano. PENALTY on IND-J.Gordy, Defensive Holding, 5 yards, enforced at IND 48 - No Play.

1st and 10 at IND 43 (Shotgun) K.Davis right tackle to IND 41 for 2 yards (J.McNary; E.Walden).

2nd and 8 at IND 41 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete deep right to C.Gray.

3rd and 8 at IND 41 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short right.

4th and 8 at IND 41 D.Colquitt punts 31 yards to IND 10, Center-T.Gafford, fair catch by G.Whalen.


Drive Smith missed Gray once again not many reps


1st and 10 at KC 17 (Run formation) A.Smith pass short middle to J.Hemingway to KC 30 for 13 yards (L.Landry).

1st and 10 at KC 30 (Run formation) K.Davis up the middle to KC 35 for 5 yards (R.Mathews; D.Butler). KC-K.Davis was injured during the play. He is Out.
2nd and 5 at KC 35 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short right to A.Fasano (E.Walden).

3rd and 5 at KC 35 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short right to D.Bowe to KC 41 for 6 yards (J.Gordy).

1st and 10 at KC 41 (Run formation) C.Gray right tackle to KC 43 for 2 yards (A.Bethea).

2nd and 8 at KC 43 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short right to A.Fasano to KC 44 for 1 yard (J.Gordy; J.Freeman).
Timeout #1 by KC at 07:24.

3rd and 7 at KC 44 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short middle to A.Jenkins pushed ob at IND 29 for 27 yards (K.Conner).
Timeout #2 by KC at 06:49.

1st and 10 at IND 29 D.McCluster right end pushed ob at IND 26 for 3 yards (A.Bethea).

2nd and 7 at IND 26 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short left to A.Sherman to IND 30 for -4 yards (L.Landry). IND-L.Landry was injured during the play. He is Out.

3rd and 11 at IND 30 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short left to D.McCluster ran ob at IND 25 for 5 yards.

4th and 6 at IND 25 R.Succop 43 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-T.Gafford, Holder-D.Colquitt. 44 38
R.Succop kicks 65 yards from KC 35 to end zone, Touchback.


Got a FG



1st and 10 at KC 20 (Run formation) A.Smith pass short right to D.Bowe to KC 45 for 25 yards (C.Lynch).

1st and 10 at KC 45 (Run formation) A.Smith pass short middle to D.Bowe to IND 42 for 13 yards (A.Bethea; D.Butler).
1st and 10 at IND 42 (Shotgun) C.Gray right tackle to IND 39 for 3 yards (R.Mathis; R.Jean Francois).

2nd and 7 at IND 39 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete short right [C.Redding]. PENALTY on KC-A.Smith, Intentional Grounding, 10 yards, enforced at IND 39.

3rd and 17 at IND 49 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass short middle to D.McCluster to IND 43 for 6 yards (V.Davis).
Timeout #3 by KC at 02:00.

4th and 11 at IND 43 (Shotgun) A.Smith pass incomplete deep right to D.Bowe.

Last drive




As you can see the lack of running cost us.

So in your estimation, because a team didn't want to pay a back up qb, or rather couldn't afford to, is a black mark on Alex Smith?

I don't see it that way. The reason there was no market was because teams knew that the 49ers wouldn't pay Alex Smith 8.5 mil to hold a clip board.

Teams were hoping the 49ers would trade him.

Furthermore, what in the blue hell does that have to do with anything today?

Do you think Andy Reid or John Dorsey right now are blaming Alex Smith for this loss and are going to release him?

49er troll, this is a Chiefs board not 49ers. GTFO.

378 yards, 4 TD's, 0 Int's in a road playoff game. What more do you want Alex Smith to do than that? This game is on your defense. Alex played well enough to win. You should win 9/10 games with QB play like that.

Meh. You haven't been reading my posts then.

I have admitted on more than one occasion that Alex Smith had a huge hand in the Chiefs collapse. I just maintain there is a lot more to it than Alex Smith, and if I personally had to rank the reasons why the Chiefs are not waiting to see where they play next week, he would be pretty low on that depth chart.

But, by all means. Ill continue to be an Alex Smith blowhard.

PROUDLY.

Just finished re-watching the game and that last play in particular. It would have been a close call but there was PI on that play. The defender had an arm bar on Bowe BEFORE the ball arrived. You can clearly see Bowe's upper body being pushed toward the sideline. Had the arm not been there, Bowe would have been able to come down in bounds. After all, his right foot was only out about 8".

That is playoff football. Only blatant holding and PI are usually called. Still, if the official had made the PI call, it would have been hard to argue against it.

You have yet to add anything of substance to any discussion but your blown out puss cries.

I wonder what the Saints do after this year.

They have 136 million in contracts signed for next year and they don't have Jimmy Graham under contract after this year.

They have to cut Will Smith just to get to near the salary cap limit and is likely they cut Lance Moore, too.

Looking at their over the cap space, I'm having a hard time finding where they are gonna make room to sign Graham.

You are a worthless POS. Go kill yourself.

actually, teams were gambling that the Niners would cut Smith because they knew the Niners didn't want/couldn't afford to keep Smith's salary on the books if they wanted to resign their key free agents.

Well that escalated quickly.

ROFL So now AJ Jenkins who's been a bust and traded for a bust can play as good and be as consistent as Avery. Holy Balls.

Because Avery has been good and consistent...

40 catches for 596 yards.

WHAT A ****ING MONSTER!!!!!!

Graham is going nowhere.

Drew will probably rework his contract rather than lose Jimmy.

Will Smith is gone.

Will be interesting to say the least.

That might actually be the point.

Charles, the second leading receiver on the team was out. Then Avery the third.

That's specifically why I have been saying for MONTHS that the Chiefs have to get an explosive tight end, and a number one, or two receiver.

So, your belittling of losing Avery, lauding him as bad, is exactly the point.

Do you think the guys behind him were as good?

Jenkins? The guy who didn't have a catch in his rookie season, Hemmingway? They are better options on the road in a playoff game?

That is THE POINT.

Hillarious that any one that watched the game today would actually try to give Alex any blame for the loss. Ignorance at its best

Because Jenkins can show up more than once in a game?

WHAT A GREAT PLAYER HE IS!!!!!!!
Jenkins can't sniff the ****ing jockstrap of Avery. FACT!!

I meant cut, not trade. Thanks for that correction.

Shouldn't be that hard to keep graham.

Will prolly lose Thomas, Vilma, Will Smith, Roman Harper.

Shrugs.

Serious question. Are you really this ****ing stupid?

You tell me.

You were the one that called Avery "good and consistent."

But I agree. Someone like Jenkins can't blow passed the DBs like Avery did on his TD. I mean, that was a pretty complicated route and Avery is just soooooo much faster.

Avery has been mediocre and terribly inconsistent. But its nice to know I'm talking to someone who actually watched the games.

Yup, many of the most outspoken posters are clueless. I feel that Alex Smiths presence will weed out all non-hackers. The monopoly of opinions is changing back into the hands of people that can see football.

No. Avery is sooooo much better of a receiver. You tell me, what the **** has Jenkins done that makes you so sure that he can just blow past DB's at will? Huh? GTFO with this Jenkins shit. Idiot.

Well lets see, because he's fast and all Avery did was run in a straight line right by them?

LMAO Well Jenkins was in the game. Where was his 60 yard bomb and catch?

Don't recall him ever getting one called.

He did however make a crucial 3rd down catch short of the first down marker and turn it into a 27 yard gain.

But ya, he's a slow pos that can't hold Avery's jock.

First of all, i never said Jenkins was slow. Secondly, no Jenkins can't sniff Avery's jock. Avery has done more as a receiver in his career and this year.
Avery is a better and more consistent receiver than Jenkins. That cannot be argued. Are you high?

Only thing Avery is consistent at is playing for a different team each year.

He's a better receiver than Jenkins, but you keep arguing over how good Jenkins is. I'm sure you might find another idiot to agree with ya.

Not arguing over how good Jenkins is, moron.

I'm simply laughing at all the morons claiming the Chiefs were devastated by losing him like hes some major offensive threat when just weeks ago no one wanted him on the team and he wasn't good enough for the GREAT ALEX SMITH!!!

:banghead: Sigh!!! Have a good night.

Avery is getting paid what he is worth. Cutting him would only save us a little over a million bucks and it would take a deep threat off the field. I'd keep him, but would be looking for an upgrade.

I think upgrading TE may be the bigger need on offense at the moment, though.

Sac will be here shortly.

Only Saccopoo would disagree with that.

All you have to do is look at our TE's, look at who are QB is, and look at said QBs history on who he likes to throw to.

But we already have Jenkins. Just cut Avery now. Fallacy.

Cherry picker, you are out of your league.

What exactly am I cherry picking?

Dorsey didn't ignore the safety position. He signed players in Abdullah, Demps and drafted Commings to be a rotational safety.

He didn't ignore the position - at all.

The problem is that Avery is completely expendable and Jenkins has the exact same skillset as what Avery brings to the table. He also has a higher ceiling as he's still a really young player.

Err is this a reference to Vernon Davis? Physical freaks like that only come by every few years and they go in the top 10..

They have to come out of this first round with either a dynamic TE or a WR. Jordan Matthews would be nice.

No.

Its a reference to Alex's entire career.

Alex favors short and middle. Charles was the Chiefs #1 receiver by a long shot.

He's only played two years including this year WITHOUT Vernon Davis. The last time he was in the playoffs Frank Gore only had 17 total catches that year. Charles being the #1 in receptions is a function of Andy's WCO and lack of big time wideouts.

No, he didn't. Just none of these guys are the answer, unfortunately. But you are right, he did not ignore the position.

It's still a position that needs to be addressed, unfortunately. But I give Dorsey credit for addressing it this year, even though it didn't work out.

Hopefully Dorsey/Reid will be smart enough to know that Lewis isn't the answer and he should not be resigned or released.

Jenkins has a higher ceiling because he's younger? Jenkins hasn't shown dick to say that he has a higher ceiling than what Avery has been in his career. In addition, Avery is a better overall receiver as of right now.

Do we need an upgrade at the position? Yes we do.

And Sacc is wrong. Alex loves his TE's, and to maximize Alex's strength is to find a TE that is considered "elite" or "game changing" TE.

Fasano is a solid TE, but only worth a lick on blocking. McGrath is a solid TE, but can't block, but is a solid pass catcher.

That makes KC somewhat predictable. Kelce being the next Tony Moeaki isn't helping matters either, and I didn't see anything during pre-season that impressed me.

TE needs to be addressed, along with the defensive side depth.

He's a 2nd year player. Donnie Avery will be 30 years old next season. You're assuming that Jenkins never develops or gets any better when he hasn't even had an offseason with the team. Cutting Avery will give us cap space and Jenkins can easily fill his role. Avery has been a nice addition but he is utterly expendable.

You are also assuming that Jenkins develops into a better receiver and route runner than Avery. Because that would be the ONLY reason to cut Avery in favor of Jenkins. Cutting Avery saves pennies quite literally.

When has Jenkins showed up more than a few times a game if at all? Where do you see this talent in Jenkins other than speed?

Some people think that draft position dictates a players potential. You'd think of over 50 years they would realize that the draft is a crapshoot.

Jesus. I'm not saying he's worth a damn at all. You make it sound like Avery is actually a key player on this team :ROFL: Neither of them have any business starting, but with a full offseason with the team Jenkins can fill Avery's role as a smallish speed guy who can run crossing routes and run down the field. He at least HASN'T shown that he can drop as many balls as Avery can in his short amount of play time.

Chiefs ain't winning a SB with a game manager.

I didn't see one today... did you?

I think that Jenkins has potential, but I am not getting my hopes up. I won't pre-judge him, he came in midseason and had to learn a totally new NFL playbook his rookie year. If he is not productive next year, then he will be on the chopping block. Just because you recognize a weakness, doesn't mean that there is an answer, most of the time you have to work with what you have. That is where scheme, dedication, and preparation become useful.

ROFL Show me where i said that Avery is a key player on this team? Did i not state that an upgrade is needed? JFC people it's not hard to read a response.
You're right about one thing though, Jenkins hasn't shown jack shit.

How many points were scored in the second half that didn't come off a turnover.