Didn't a similar scenario happen to UGA last season? I am not 100% sure and not willing to research it, but I thought UGA beat Florida, played and lost in the waning seconds of the SECCG and watched UF go to a BCS bowl game. I think if Mizzou wants to guarantee a BCS bowl berth they need to beat aTm this week and Bama (or Auburn) in the SECCG. If not they might miss out.

Iowa State is bowling in the south endzone of Jack Trice!

Actually I'm wrong. Seems MU isn't in BCS position. That sucks, thought this was the year.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls/projections

I'm not sure what Mizzou is supposed to do. They were jumped by Auburn in the BCS back in week 11 when both teams won. Seems the conference is doing everything they can to prevent Mizzou from succeeding. Strange that we all thought this had been fixed.

I'd take Wisconsin in the Capital One bowl over UCF in the Sugar bowl.

Big 12 champ gets Fresno in the BCS? That's hilarious. Maybe they can actually win one.

Yes. The year before that Alabama went to the NC game but didn't win their division. That is why MU just needs to win out.

I will add though what Saul said is probably correct. I don't see SC jumping over MU if they win on Saturday but lose in the SECCG. It really is going to depend on them winning on Saturday obviously and having Alabama beat Auburn. If Auburn wins Saturday MU will definitely be left out IMO.

The Grove was packed with black and gold, btw. 10,000+ Mizzou fans there. Evidently Beale street was black and gold as far as the eye could see as well. What a spectacular setting for football.

I'm sure Jack Trice Stadium was also glorious, though.

pfffffftttt

That's the closest thing Iowa State football will get to a bowl in the foreseeable future.

Oklahoma has kicked their best running back off the team. Former Sooners currently in the NFL are responding in less than positively to Stoops.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...-from-oklahoma


Kenny Stills @KSTiLLS11s Never seen a staff put so much effort into trying to sabotage people's careers

Tony Jefferson @tonyjefferson18m Another draft stock butchered

I heard your basketball stadium was empty sat. I don't blame your fans for not supporting that garbage though don't get me wrong.

Back to trolling in here I see.

You'll know Saul isn't trolling when he finally decides to address the implosion in Gainesville.

Shocking that people aren't paying attention to basketball during football season... Hopefully we're still undefeated when football is done sometime in early January.

Maybe Kansas can rush the field again if you beat KSU on Saturday.

It's pretty sad that the talk of Weis getting canned has all but disappeared because he won a single conference game. Think about that for a second...the highlight of the past five years of Jayhawks football was beating West Virginia...a non rival that won't make a bowl. That literally was enough to warrant rushing the field and removing Charlie's Weis's enormous ass from the hot seat.

Please, though. Talk some more basketball attendance smack on the team that just drew 30% more fans to the Sprint Center than Kansas did last year against SLU. Leave out the part where you recently shattered the record for lowest attendance of a Big 12 football game...on your homecoming, no less.

How should I address the fact that the team with the tenth best record in the SEC just lost in embarrassing fashion? Are we back to debating which conference has the best teams bringing up the rear? I'm pretty sure your defending champions lost to an FCS team as well...and they will likely have a winning record in the Big 12.

Next, we can address the ass kicking Mizzou just put on Ole Miss in the Grove...the same Ole Miss that picked the score at Texas (currently 6-1 in the Big 12).

Why would any Mizzou fan give a shit what happens at the University of Florida?

I certainly don't give a shit about Texas and how much they've sucked the past few years.

Nobody cares about basketball right now, nor should they. It's football season. Here you are, on a football board, and you still haven't figured this out. Pretty amazing.

I don't see SC getting a BCS spot over MU. Auburn even if they lose to Bama would probably get it.

That's how you and I see it, but Saul gives us daily updates on 9-2 OU and 7-3 Texas. I'm surprised he hadn't noticed 4-7 Florida yet.

Mizzou>>Ole Miss>>>>>Texas and I'm guessing even Sagarin agrees.

Want to know why BCS bowls don't mean shit if they aren't the championship game?

The 2007 BCS bridesmaids are currently 43-46.

If that's how you see it, why do you keep bringing it up? It must be relevant to you.

Mizzou is going to need a real marquee win at this point to get a shot.

A&M might do it. However if Auburn looks decent this weekend and Mizzou gets smashed by Alabama in the Champ game then I don't think so.

Beat A&M... Look decent against Alabama then I think there's a chance. Then again that will be a lot of SEC teams with 2 losses.

It should go to the SEC East champ, but last year's UGA team proves that is not always the case. Mizzou all but has to win out. aTm is not as much of a marquee win anymore after getting pounded by LSU. Had they won it would have been a different story.

Who cares? Aubrun won the National Title a few years ago, lost all of their conference games last season, and right now is back in the hunt.

The point is that it's great to get there once. I think everyone on this board is pulling for Mizzou.

The at large teams are 11-30 this year against FBS teams. Only Georgia will be bowl eligible this year.

Really, I think we root for Auburn this week.

If Auburn beats Bama, I think Mizzou has a better than average shot at knocking them off (presuming we beat A&M).

The only way we're getting to a BCS game is if we win the SECCG. Sucks, but such is life. We're not getting a BCS bowl over a 2-loss Auburn team. Fresno State and UCF will get to a BCS game by playing schedules that would embarass a WAC squad....a 2 loss SEC team that advanced to the SEC championship game will not. Jayhawks fans will continue to talk about BCS berths as though they're indicative of actual team strength. Such is the circle of life.

That ****ing lucky tipped ball against Georgia will bite us...again. As will 4th and 15. There are so many 'what ifs' in this season that Mizzou really needs to do the only thing it can control and win out.

Our odds of winning out are significantly improved with Auburn beating 'bama. If Bama loses and MU beats Auburn, I'm not sure how you can avoid having MU jump both of them to become the #1 team out of the SEC and still in the hunt for the National Championship.

I don't see how Mizzou gains anything by Alabama winning that game.

I don't think there is much to "address". They made a bad hire. Hopefully Muschamp will be sent on his way soon. They'll be back to being Florida pretty soon, dont worry.

I want to play Alabama.

Yes, he does. He's also got LSU 21, North Dakota State 22, and OU 23....

They don't. The best they could get is #4 in the BCS standings. They still have to face Bama in the SECCG and unless they win (long shot at best), they are out. Even if they win it will be a long shot to play in the BCS Championship game as either FSU (doubtful), or tOSU has to lose.

I actually think that if Franklin is healthy and playing well Missouri could give them fits. MU's big WRs could create matchup problems and their DLine might actually get pressure on McCarron. Even then Bama is far more talented and better coached. It would take an all world game by Mizzou to beat them, but they do have the tools to do it.

The only way someone is going to beat them is if they come out and turn the ball over a bunch of times. IMO.

It's DILLON'S SUNFLOWER SHOWDOWN WEEK!! :#

Have fun with that. I'd prefer play a team that should've lost twice already to the guys that seam to toy with whoever's on the other side of the field. I want that flag in the rafters and I'd prefer the easier route to getting it.

I'm not confident we'd jump Ohio State by beating a one loss Auburn. We may jump them by beating an undefeated Alabama though. But if you're just talking about being the SEC champ, then yes, I'd much rather play Auburn.

Only way Missouri jumps Ohio State is if Missouri wins out and Ohio State loses a game. No way a one loss team will jump an undefeated team from a power conference.

I guess if Ohio State is still undefeated at that time, they will have beaten Michigan State, who is currently #11. Personally, I think they'll lose that game though.

Hey, I don't know if anyone is interested, but I have a ticket to the SEC championship game that I'm willing to sell. Let me know if you're interested and I can get you some info, and I could try to get in touch with some people if you were looking for more than one.

I don't think there's a chance in hell we leapfrog an undefeated team. Look at the present gap between OSU and Auburn - it's pretty enormous. They're a full 10th of a point behind. Making up a 10th of a point due entirely to the strength of a single win is not impossible...but it's close.

The computers love strength of schedule, no doubt. But they like Ws even more.

Mizzou wants to be the next entity raped by Jameis Winston.

Well, they won't get away with it if we arent raped in Tallahassee.

I was looking at it as if Alabama and MU wins Saturday even if we lose the SECCG I don't see why MU would get denied a BCS bowl game since they won their division and are tied with Auburn and SC with 2 losses. If Alabama loses they won't drop far and heck with their history they might still get the NC game.

Of course we both agree winning it out solves all these issues. But being a MU fan I am trained to know that isn't going to happen so I am looking at what would be the best way to get a BCS bowl game with 2 losses.

If we lose the SECCG but make the BCS, we would likely wind up in the Sugar against UCF. **** that. Give me a non BCS game against Oregon, Wisconsin, Nebraska, etc. over UCF any day.

South Carolina could wind up in a rematch against UCF. The system is a joke, and the playoff can't get here soon enough.

Yeah, I would also prefer a chance to play an interesting team in a bowl instead of some goofy BCS mandated matchup, if the teams were level.

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They're not going to beat out Auburn.

Get ready for it now. Auburn's made a BCS game, IMO. The only thing that would change that (barring Mizzou winning the SECCG) is Auburn getting absolutely housed followed by Mizzou taking a close loss to Bama.

It's why I get really tired of hearing Beakers crow about BCS appearances - they're obviously the brass ring and it pisses me off we don't have one, but they aren't in any way indicative of who the most deserving teams in football are. This year will prove it yet again with Central Florida and either Fresno State or Northern Illinois getting an invite.

I'll say that, sure - but it's wrong.

The BCS prestige will be a huge recruiting coup, IMO. It didn't help Kansas because Kansas was simply a shit program and couldn't build on that momentum. Mizzou's shown to be competent across the board with solid recruiting for upwards of a decade even without that boost.

Being able to point to a Sugar Bowl win would be huge in living rooms throughout the south. You can go into some of Georgia's stomping grounds and take their guys. You can go toe to toe with SC and Florida and win a recruit or two.

We have to get a 'headline' win to take the next step.

It sucks. I hate it. The BCS bowls are absolutely silly little rigged titles that don't represent much...but 18 year old kids and their starstruck parents will absolutely eat that shit up.

I don't think "BCS win" is going to mean anything when this system goes away. Your final national ranking, wins over other top schools... that stuff will matter more.

A win over a nobody isn't going to excite anyone.

It's not going to excite fans.

It's absolutely going to excite recruits.

Did they score a TD on that play? Kansas should try that.

This video is amazing.

And I assume you have some sort of proof of these claims?

I would think that KU's record in football since then would be plenty proof enough.

Chiefs had bad players last year, they went 2-14 / mnchiefsguy

Yep, they sure did, which is why Dorsey and Reid turned over a majority of the roster this year.

https://twitter.com/PWILL_Myr/status...043840/photo/1

hahahaha

If you don't count next year as in the foreseeable future, then yes I agree. But technically they would be in a bowl game before their own bowl is done to start the 2015 season.

Next year is the year? Good to know...

Kansas:

2008: 8-5
2009: 5-7
2010: 3-9
2011: 2-10
2012: 1-11
2013: 3-8

Total since BCS Win: 22-50

With a record that got worse for 5 consecutive years after the victory.

So would you say that the BCS win has generated momentum for the University of Kansas football team? Please provide proof of these claims.

Oh that's right - "Records don't mean shit"

Carry on...

Sagarin had them as undefeated every one of those years (/PB)

You were talking about recruiting both before and after KU's Orange Bowl season, including Mizzou. Let's see your proof.

I bet there's a tiny correlation between a program's ability to recruit and its on-field success.

So you have no proof to offer really - other than saying "I bet". I was pretty certain you'd admit you were just talking out your ass so no shocker here.

Teams who have won in the BCS, or as others would say "the who's who of college football":

Ohio State (6–3)
Michigan (2–3)
Wisconsin (2–3)
Penn State (1–1)
Iowa (1–1)
Florida (5–2)
LSU (4–1)
Alabama (3–2)
Georgia (2–1)
Auburn (2–0)
Tennessee (1–1)
USC (6–1)
Oregon (3–2)
Stanford (2–2)
Oregon State (1–0)
Washington (1–0)
Oklahoma (3–5)
Texas (3–1)
Nebraska (1–1)
Kansas (1–0)
Oklahoma State (1–0)
Florida State (2–5)
Virginia Tech† (1–4)
Miami (FL) (3–1)
West Virginia (3–0)
Louisville (2–0)
Utah (2–0)
TCU (1–1)
Boise State (2–0)

I don't spend time doing others' research.

It's your research, since you made the claim. You're not smart enough for us to simply trust your opinions.

LMAO.

Uh...okay? You're serious here? Showing that your team immediately collapsed into an historically embarrassing heap of shit isn't proof enough for you that Kansas failed miserably to seize on any momentum from the BCS win?

Rivals:

Kansas starting in 2008: 40, 31, 55, 34, 74, 46, 80 - Average Rivals ranking of 51.4

Missouri starting in 2008 and without the bump of the BCS win: 25, 40, 21 48, 31, 41, 30 - Average Rivals rating of 33.7.

At what point have I sufficiently established that KU took the momentum it gained from having a BCS title and effectively set it on fire?

Well that would be a big screw job IMO if that were to happen. Basically you are punishing MU for playing an extra game yet they would be tied with Auburn and SC all with 2 losses. Of course this is all dependent on beating Johnny Football this weekend which is no easy game.

You've forgotten about 2007 already?

Screwing Mizzou for playing an extra game is par for the course.

I think that's correct in the short term but I would say it's more due to the people doing the actual recruiting.

When KU is back on it's feet having a BCS win will do much more good as a recruiting tool than having not even played in a game.

You can try and diminish all you want but MU isn't exactly lighting the world on fire recruiting wise. Having a shiny BCS game trophy to point to (or a playoff appearance from here moving forward) will be much, much better than pointing to something like the Alamo Bowl or Independence.

I really should keep quiet on this but at least KU only had one loss whereas in this case all 3 could be potentially 2 loss teams.

When Kansas is back on its feet that BCS win isn't going to mean shit. It'll be ancient history.

That thing has vanished like a fart in the wind at this point.

You don't get to freeze momentum and thaw it when you need it. It's gone. If you don't capitalize on it, you have to completely rebuild around something else.

If Mizzou manages to get to/win one this year and doesn't use it as a springboard to getting talent that then builds on itself to create a cycle of win/recruit, it won't mean anything in the long run.

And your statement re: Mizzou is precisely my point - Mizzou's doing a nice job recruiting, but they're not a next level program yet. I think a BCS combined with the success in the SEC gets them to where they can consider anything below 25th a 'down' year for recruiting.

The BCS is dead after this season and no one cares what any team did 6 years ago especially a recruit that would have been 12.

You are literally the only college football fan base who seems to believe this to be true.

But by all means, we are entitled to our opinions.

ROFL One good year in probably 100 does not equate to being on their feet. They benefited from the perfect storm of decent team meets ultra weak schedule. Oh and a BCS trophy in 5-10 years will be as relevant as a Cotton Bowl or Gator Bowl trophy.

Having a BCS trophy will be similar to being in the new "playoff".

I think some of you are going to be a bit disappointed by what this playoff really is. These bowls are all staying. The same bowls (Rose, Orange, Sugar, Fiesta) will all still be head and shoulders above the rest.