He can still throw with velocity deep. Every report I have read has said all of his passes have zip.

And if you look at Manning's stats he has only thrown 8 balls that have traveled 40 yards or longer since 2007. That averages out to two a season. No. Big. Deal.

In Peyton's best year as a pro ( the one where he threw 49 TD's) he only threw 1 pass that traveled over 40 yards.

Give it up Chiefs fans. He's good and he's on our team. Best of luck on the season. I hope we're all strong to produce the best come the post season.

**** you for your accurate description!!! :cuss:

I still hope Manning breaks down though. :D

The unprepared nature of the offense is whose fault then? Haley's?

They got their shit pushed in against Oakland and Baltimore. Two ****ing home games. Games in which our 6.0+ YPC running back wasn't handed the ball NEARLY enough times.

I hear you. Can't wait for the first pre-season game so we can start seeing some football.

Oh yeah? Well...when a Bentley breaks down, it's like really really expensive to fix...so...yeah...

Wow. If Champ Bailey had a good day then Peyton must be playing like shit. Nobody got their ass kicked last year more than Champ. Bowe chewed Bailey up and spit him out, and that's with Cassel and other shitty qb's throwing to him. If Bailey had a good day against Manning, I'd say Manning is pretty much done.

Ah no. Someone didn't eat their pills this morning. This is a bold face lie by even the most subjective and bias of opinions.

Are these reeruned pro wrestler schticks going to be permanent? WPI-ish.

I am just going by what he said. He doesn't seem to think he will return to form. He is still really good, but he doesn't seem to expect to be great, as in return to his best form. If he isn't great, Donks don't make the playoffs.

Sure.

+1

Who is going to win the division then?

Uh.. the Chiefs. Duh.

No it's not. Champ was done last year.

If this was WPI we would have banned your donkey loving ass a long time ago.

The Chiefs of course.

Hell the BRONCOS were done last year.

Did you choose this wrestling thing on your own or was it mod imposed?

I don't know who is who anymore.

Nobody chooses wrestling. Wrestling chooses YOU.

Kind of like homosexuality apparently.

Yeah, kind of.

:D

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Kind of, only gayer and with more oil

:D WTF?

You should become one of us.

You could be Big Van Vader...the Rocky Mountain Mastodon.

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Thanks but I'm more of a Rowdy Roddy Piper kind of guy.

It's because he wears a skirt isn't it.....

IT'S NOT A SKIRT IT'S A KILT!

I'm glad you two worked this out. Is it shit like this that caused your old lady to start banging the pool boy?

Oka...he's only the most complete corner in the game. Cover, stop the run, tackle, nose for the ball....and while he's getting along in age, you're still talking about a guy that was trained by Deion Sanders and Darrell Green. He knows all the tricks. Your boy Bowe can't even find his stick'em in his locker. :P But I am sure Bowe will have a great year.....when he finally reports.

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

That's very knowmo of you to say that. The man is washed up. He's clinging to a "once was" career.

The man is toast. There's a reason they have talked of moving him to safety.

Not sure if this was already mentioned, but since Denver has started camp Manning has not thrown a deep ball. This was mentioned yesterday, they're thinking he's not ready to throw deep.

This.

Only cause he's mastered the CB position and got bored of it!!! He even broke his neck in the offseason and got it repaired just like Manning. It made him 10 years younger!!!!/Uknowmo

LOL. Bowe rode Bailey like a rented mule last year.

But in your defense, Ty Law was pretty damned good for us his last couple of years, too. /not really

KC QBs throwing at Champ: 7.8 YPA, 0 TDs, 3 passes defensed.

Tebow throwing at Flowers: 10.4 YPA, 1 TD, 0 passes defensed.

Someone is in need of a name change to Knowmo Jr.

Precisely. They think that because they have Champ in the screen at home that it was man-on-man.

The best thing about being a Chiefs fan this season is going to be watching the Donks fall apart. They used up all their luck last season and it will be the reverse this season. I am so excited for it! :bang::donks:

Do you know how wide the gap is between Peyton Manning and Tim Tebow?

Tebow was trying to learn how to be a QB while Peyton Manning has mastered it. Denver doesn't need luck. If we could win 8 games with Tebow there is no way we win fewer than 10 with Manning, and I'm expecting 12 to 13 wins.

beems ?

I'm sorry you don't know how to read what scheme a defense is playing, but Flowers wasn't the guy who got beat on that TD.

WRONG. Nice try though.;)

EDIT: Someone beat me to it

**** the donkeys

ROFL He only won 10 with a better Colts team before major surgery. The West is KC's (Cassels) to lose.

How are the Chiefs the favorites? You guys have only beaten two teams with a winning record in the past three years.

The return of the 3 ACLmigos is drawing quite the buzz in league circles. Comments of loaded Chiefs team being the biggest reason folks are picking KC.

Personally, like usual it's San Diego's division if crybaby and Norf don't find a way to **** it up.

I expect KC to take the West though.

You guys are totally right. Flowers only ran down the field with Decker for fun, not because he was covering him.

There's 1 surefire way that they won't make it to 10 wins..... I'll give you a hint, it ends with "out for the season after re-injuring his fragile neck, career over."

Besides... 12-13 wins is ridiculous. They have very few good players left on that team, and 0 elite ones unless you count Von Miller, but even he could only play a partial season healthy.

I'm thinking maybe 8 wins at the max.

His neck isn't fragile though. You guys keep saying it but it's totally untrue. His neck was healed and ready for professional football last fall. The doctors that did the surgery on the disc in his neck cleared him to play last season.

The reason he missed the entire season was because he lost arm strength and it took time for the nerves to regenerate. There was a time last November where Manning could barely throw a ball across the room, by the time March came around he could throw it 40+ yards.

If Manning were to get hurt it would most likely be a knee injury or a broken bone or something. His neck is at no greater risk to injury than Cassel's.

CHAMP STILL KICKS ASS GUYS I GUESS WE'RE DONE HERE

Just stick your had in the sand and ignore the report that said it's inevitable that he will need a 5th neck surgery.

It's not real.

That was reported by one guy during a time where Jim Irsay was in a semi-bitter PR war with Peyton Manning. Reports from that time period from anonymous sources should be disregarded.

The doctors cleared him, eh? They also clear a lot of guys who get concussions. And guess what, it happens again... And those injuries get worse and worse. Manning is on borrowed time right now.

Sure he "might" be able to throw it 40 yards but he certainly can't do it accurately. Besides, your wr's would just drop it anyways. I'm still not sure Thomas has caught a ball other than the one against Pittsburgh.

I'll remember that. 99% of your posts will be irrelevant now.

He certainly can. And he certainly has. He completes at least one deep ball every practice with pinpoint accuracy.

From Cecil Lammey...

Quit trying to argue with Knowsa parks. Hes too persistent.

Omg. So a guy most likely getting paid to write good things about Manning posted something (which I'm sure he added yards to) about Manning throwing a single deep ball (with no pressure) and you think he's back?

And pinpoint accuracy is bullshit. You know Decker had to run like a son of a bitch just to get back in time to catch it.

Peyton has it in his contract that under no circumstances are defenders to interfere with his passes in practice. I think I read that from Woody Paige.

In this case he's wrong though, and he knows it.

The point is that things have a way of evening out. If Denver does not get good luck and in fact suffers the kind if bad luck the Chiefs did last year, they are screwed. We won 7 games without three if our best players. Denver can't overcome that. And if a bit of bad luck strikes Manning they are really screwed.

I'm trying to think who would even be their 3 best players???


Miller, Colquitt and maybe Bailey by default? Clady is overrated, Manning is doomed... Who else would it be? Kuper maybe, Prater?

LMAO Gotta' love it. Perennial red headed step child barking like a big dog.

Based on the 2010 PFF ratings, the Chiefs lost their 3rd, 7th, and 14th best players. That would be equivalent to the Broncos losing Mays, Bannan, and Mike Adams. I think we'd be okay.

On the other hand, it is very sad that Joe Mays is our 3rd best player.

OMG, please, please, please get the season here. I can't stand all the speculation. I've stated my stance on Manning. I think he is going to be OK, but that is it. At 36, within a year of 4 neck surgeries, and missing the last 18 months of football? If indeed he is really good, it will be the first time in history a person of that age, coming off major surgery, and having missed the entire previous season, will succeed with a new team. Probably the closest was Montana when he came to KC. He was Ok, but not great. What got that team to the AFC championship game was the running game and defense. I think the chiefs and donks will fight it out for the afc west, with one of them winning it at 10-6. Both had similar seasons last year (8-8 v. 7-9) and played weak schedules. Both play tougher schedules this year and have big changes to their teams from last. Should be interesting to say the least.

And he missed 12 tackles! 12!!!

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https://twitter.com/dmac1043/status/230726783312474113

You put this stuff up like anyone on here, besides the three donk fans, care.

Wow. Your D must really suck this year. I kind of figured they would. DJ Williams was probably the 2nd best player on your defense and he isn't even effective vs the run. I guess he's not really effective at all on defense since he's a criminal who should never play in the nfl again.

ROFL ROFL

I'm sure he cherry picked a couple sentences completely out of context and went with them.

I provide a link for a reason

Doesn't mean you didn't cherry pick that report from a donkey homer writer while skipping over the "he's shit" reports from actual writers with solid credentials.

It's only funny if you count Colquitt as a defensive player. Then DJ would be 3rd best.

I don't see why you want to do that though.

There haven't been any negative reports. Peter King had the most "negative" report so far in camp and he even said that he wouldn't be surprised if Manning completes 69% of his passes this year.

It's a thread dedicated to and named for him. And you are posting in it. Now who cares?

That's reporter talk.

Wouldn't be surprised = I'd be ****ing shocked