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I suspect it might be a fair amount of work right now, but when we crank up another league I might be able to talk cdcox into it. |
Oh wait - do we have to cutdown to 53 tonight?
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My roster (I'm running short, doing a poor job):
QB Alex Smith Brock Osweiler (Broncos) Geno Smith (Jets) Tyler Bray Tyler Wilson (Raiders) Chase Daniel Mark Sanchez (Jets) RB Jamaal Charles Anthony Sherman WR Dwayne Bowe Donnie Avery Tavon Austin (Rams) Rishard Matthews (Dolphins) AJ Jenkins TE Travis Kelce Anthony Fasano Chase Coffman (Falcons) OT Branden Albert Eric Winston Donald Stephenson G Jon Asamoah Geoff Schwartz David DeCastro (Steelers) C Rodney Hudson K Ryan Succop P Dustin Colquitt S Eric Berry Geroge Iloka (Bengals) Hasain Abdullah Quintin Demps CB Brandon Flowers Sean Smith Dunta Robinson Jordan Poyer (Eagles) OLB Tamba Hali Justin Houston Ricky Sapp (Jets) ILB Derrick Johnson Vontaze Burflict (Bengals) Frank Zombo DE Allen Bailey Mike DeVito NT Terrence Cody (Ravens) Cam Thomas (Chargers) Alameda Ta'amu (Cardinals) Jesse Williams (Seahawks) - IR |
My 53-man roster. Cuts are shown below.
QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) Geno Smith (Jets) Tyler Bray Tyler Wilson (Raiders) I was hoping to see more out of the rookies, but they have time to develop behind my sophomore phenom. We're young here, but with potential. HB Jamaal Charles C.J. Spiller. (Bills) Denard Robinson (Jaguars) We'll see how Robinson develops, but I'm incredibly strong here. FB/H-Back Travis Kelce (Chiefs) It may have been a mistake to not draft a fullback. Let's see what you can do, Travis. WR Dwayne Bowe Kendall Wright (Titans) WR Donnie Avery Leonard Hankerson (Redskins) I like my starters in Bowe and Wright, and Avery will fit right into the slot. Hankerson is a good fourth receiver but it would be nice to have a fifth receiver. TE Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) Anthony Fasano Kevin Brock Lots of depth here. Maybe Tony can split out wide sometimes. OT Branden Albert Eric Winston Menelik Watson (Raiders) Geoff Schwartz We're okay here since Winston is starting. And Watson may be an up and comer at the position. G Wade Smith Alex Boone (49ers) Brian Waters Jason Pinkston (Browns) Good talent and depth. Wade was a pro bowler last year. No problems at all here. And my patience with Brian Waters has paid off, oddly. C Rodney Hudson (Chiefs) I hope he develops. Worst case, if he doesn't or if he gets hurt I can move Wade Smith easily into this position. K Alex Henery (Eagles) Perfectly fine. P Dustin Colquitt Pro bowler. FS Baccari Rambo (Redskins) Kendrick Lewis Wow! I got a new starter to replace Kendrick Lewis, and I got him cheap! SS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) Quinton Demps I'm very strong here as Jones is a rising star. Depth? Demps will do. CB Brandon Flowers Alphonso Dennard (Patriots) CB Sean Smith CB Dunta Robinson D.J. Moore (Bears) Jordan Poyer (Eagles) We're strong here, and I'm pleased with my drafting. OLB Tamba Hali Zach Brown (Titans) Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers) LB Frank Zombo Chris Carter (Steelers) This unit is coming together. Hali and Brown are strong starters, and Watson is now a starter. Plus Zombo and Carter are solid backups. ILB Derrick Johnson Rey Maualuga (Bengals) AJ Klein (Panthers) I like Klein as a backup and my starters are strong. DE DE Mike DeVito DE Alex Carrington (Bills) Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers) Ropati Pitoitua Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons) We're going 3-4 this year with DeVito and Carrington as decent starters. My depth is pretty weak. NT Star Lotulelei (Panthers) Brandon Williams (Ravens) Jesse Williams (Seahawks) Anthony Toribio Lots of rookies. Moving Star into a starting role. Overall, I think we're pretty strong. Our strengths are the offensive backfield and LBs, and I've managed to put together a good defensive backfield with a small investment. However, the offense is the focus of the team right now with a fair amount of speed, youth, and firepower. Our weaknesses are the defensive line, which is pretty unproven and thin despite numerous high draft pick investments, and our OL is okay but no great shakes. I'm hoping that my three rookie defensive linemen will make a fast transition to the pros. Hard Cuts: FS Hasain Abdullah TE Steve Maneri OT Tommie Draheim OLB Dezmon Moses Easy Cuts: QB Mark Sanchez (Jets) QB Chase Daniel 3 years QB Jimmy Clausen (Panthers) HB Shaun Draughn HB Nate Eachus FB Ryan D'Imperio FB Peyton Hillis WR Mardy Gilyard WR Greg Salas (Rams) WR Steve Breaston TE Kevin Boss RT Bruce Campbell (Raiders/Panthers) LG Lilja, Ryan FS Charles Mitchell (Falcons) FS Travis Daniels SS Abram Elam SS Tysyn Hartman CB Stanford Routt OLB Andy Studebaker OLB Chad Kilgore ILB Brandon Siler DE Ronnell Lewis (Lions) DT Marcus Dixon DT Ron Edwards WR Chad Hall TE Sean McGrath NT Jaye Howard OLB Josh Martin ILB James-Michael Johnson CB Marcus Cooper CB Ron Parker |
As a reminder, you can add to your roster any free agents the Chiefs added during training camp before you cut to 53. Those include:
WR Chad Hall TE Sean McGrath NT Jaye Howard OLB Josh Martin ILB James-Michael Johnson CB Marcus Cooper CB Ron Parker SS Quinton Demps QB Tyler Bray |
I think we need to decide whether we're accepting the trades for Edgar Jones and Jonathan Baldwin. Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm accepting both.
Here is my 53 man roster: QB Alex Smith Chase Daniel Tyler Bray * Out with the trash, in with hope. RB Jamaal Charles Bernard Pierce (Ravens) Cyrus Gray Knile Davis (R) * Davis is my only addition here. FB Ryan D'Imperio * Not happy with my FB situation, obviously. WR Dwayne Bowe Donnie Avery Dexter McCluster A. J. Jenkins Terrance Williams (Cowboys #4) (R) Josh Boyce (New England #4) (R) * I parted ways with David Reed after he bounced around from the bottom of one depth chart to the bottom of another for a few years. I'm hoping that Williams or Boyce will fare better. I'm not optimistic about Jenkins, but at least he's not Baldwin. TE Anthony Fasano Julius Thomas (Broncos) Demetrius Harris * I like the idea of converting a college basketball player to TE. In the meantime, I have a couple of serviceable to good vets. OT Branden Albert Nate Potter (Cardinals) Terron Armstead (R) Oday Aboushi (R) * I sure hope the Chiefs sign Albert long term. If not, chances are good that I'll be revisiting the offensive line in next year's draft, although the rookies might pan out. G Jon Asamoah David DeCastro (Steelers) Kraig Urbik (Bills) * I think I'm set at guard. C Rodney Hudson * I'm still optimistic here. K Ryan Succop P Dustin Colquitt * No big worries at either kicker position and Colquitt should be set for a while with his new contract. FS Kendrick Lewis Hasain Abdullah Sanders Comings (R) *IRdtR* * I'm not sure if Commings is a FS or a SS, but I listed him here. SS Eric Berry * I'm too thin at SS, but at least he's a good one. CB Brandon Flowers Alterraun Verner (Titans) Johnny Patrick (Saints) Marcus Cooper Ron Parker * I like my CBs a lot. OLB Tamba Hali Justin Houston Frank Zombo Cornellius Carradine (49ers) (R) (NFI) Josh Martin * I've got solid starters here, and when Carradine comes back from his non-football injury, I'm hopeful that he can be a third pass rushing stud. ILB Derrick Johnson Sean Lee (Cowboys) James-Michael Johnson Vince Williams (Steelers) (R) * This is another strength area. Top notch starters with promising younger backups. DE Tyson Jackson Sheldon Richardson (Jets) (R) Mike DeVito Kendall Reyes (Chargers) Karl Klug (Titans) * If $Rich pans out, this position group could move from serviceable to a strength area. NT Anthony Toribio Jaye Howard Alameda Ta'amu (Cardinals) * I'm pretty weak at NT Cuts: Eric Winston Kevin Boss Steve Breaston Matt Cassel Brady Quinn Ricky Stanzi Nate Eachus Peyton Hillis Ryan Lilja Abram Elam Stanford Routt Andy Studebaker Shaun Draughn Ryan Swope *retired* Sean McGrath Steve Manari David Reed Matt Tennant DeQuan Menzie Justin Cole Demorrio Williams Brandon Siler Eric Bakhtiari Jerrell Powe Marcus Dixon Chad Hall Quinton Demps Akeem Jordan Wallace Gilberry |
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I wish I hadn't cut Marcus Cooper, Sean McGrath, and Ron Parker.
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It's a shame I let Sean McGrath go, but I got lucky on Julius Thomas so I'll take that. NT is still a pretty big weakness on my defense. David DeCastro had better pan out on the OL to help me forget that I passed on Dontari Poe. |
A review of my team's draft this year. Recall that we traded out of the #1 pick at significant cost to pick up more lower picks.
All in all, I hit first-round gold and got some production out of my lower picks. My mid-round picks were a disaster in their rookie year, though. Round 1, Pick 13 - Star Lotulelei, DT (Panthers) Started every game, played well, and got a couple of DROY votes. Filled a huge need on my team. Grade: A Round 2, Pick 34 - Geno Smith, QB (Jets) Started every game, but it was a learning year. He's my second-string QB and hopefully he'll improve with experience. Grade: C- Round 2, Pick 39 - Menelik Watson, OT (Raiders) Had some nagging injuries that cost him the chance to shine. Started only three games even with injuries to Veldheer. Perhaps he'll blossom next year. Grade: D Round 3, Pick 63 - Travis Kelce, TE (Chiefs) Total injury bust in Year One. Grade: F Round 3, Pick 72 - Brandon Williams, DT (Ravens) This one hurt. He saw very little action this year, and I drafted him after strongly considering both Keenan Allen and John Jenkins. Grade: D- Round 3, Pick 96 - Tyler Wilson, QB (Raiders) Huge bust. Grade: F. Round 4, Pick 99 - Denard Robinson, RB/KR (Jaguars) I don't know what happened here. I took him as a high-risk, high-reward play, and he was looking promising in preseason. But then he almost never saw the field once the season started. Grade: D- Round 5, Pick 134 - Jesse Williams, DT (Seahawks) Went on IR in preseason. Grade: F Round 5, Pick 141 - A.J. Klein, ILB (Panthers) Actually got a couple of starts and made some tackles, mostly on special teams, I think. But still, he made the team. Grade: B Round 6, Pick 170 - Bacarri Rambo, FS (Redskins) He actually won the starting job in preseason and I was quite hopeful, but got demoted three weeks later. He's still better than Kendrick Lewis. Grade: A- Round 6, Pick 204 - Jordan Poyer, CB (Eagles) Got cut by the team that drafted him, and had a good punt return average with the Browns in limited action. At least he's still in the league. Grade: B- |
Here's how my draft looked after the first year. I had a strong first round pick but then my draft nose dives pretty quickly in terms of first year production. Several players suffered injuries (or were drafted with injuries) and I have hope that some of them will bounce back and turn into nice players. Some of them look like pure busts.
1.13 (13) - Sheldon Richardson DT (Jets) Finished as PFF's 5th rated 3-4 DE. Had 4 sacks and was a wall against the run. Lost a couple votes to Star Lotulelei on his way to winning DROY award. Not the biggest hole on my team, but despite losing Tyson Jackson this off-season it has become a strength. Grade: A 2.07 (39) - Cornellius Carradine DE (49ers) Carradine spent his first season on injury lists and making no impact. Given the quality players ahead of him on the depth chart, he's likely to be a role player in 2014. If this pick is going to pan out, it's probably going to be another year away. For now... Grade: F 3.01 (63) - Terrance Williams WR (Cowboys) Williams had a decent rookie season starting 8 games and catching 44 passes for 736 yards and 5 touchdowns. This was a huge hole for my team so that production was welcome. With a chance to go into the upcoming season as Dallas' #2 WR, we're hoping for a good sophomore season. Grade: B- 3.10 (72) - Terron Armstead OT (Saints) Armstead started 2 games as a rookie and looks likely to take over as the Saints' starting LT this year. Not much rookie production for a 3rd round pick. Grade: D 3.34 (96) - Knile Davis RB Davis rushed for 242 yards and 4 TDs in limited action behind Jamaal Charles. He had a pretty good game going in the playoffs after Charles went down with a concussion, but then then he broke. His injury riddled history has me very concerned. Grade: D+ 4.02 (99) - Josh Boyce WR (Patriots) Boyce was drafted with a toe injury so he got off to a slow start his rookie season. He started 3 games but only caught 9 passes for 121 yards. Grade: D+ 5.01 (134) - Sanders Commings CB Missed almost the entire season with injuries. Grade: F 5.08 (141) - Oday Aboushi OT (Jets) Aboushi didn't see the field and will have an uphill battle for playing time in 2014 as far as I can tell. Grade: F 6.02 (170) - Ryan Swope WR (retired) Retired. Grade: F 6.36 (204) - Vince Williams LB (Steelers) Williams started 11 games as a rookie which seems like a win for a 6th rounder. Grade: B |
1-7: Tavon Austin, WR (Rams)
Early returns not good. Only played about 50% of offensive snaps and didn't crack 500 yards. Did show some flashes of the crazy athletic ability that got me to pick him, but also dropped too many passes. Possible McCluster-type, which would be disastrous as a high first round pick. Grade: D+ 2-38: Geno Smith, QB (Jets) Coming along quite nicely. Played all 16 games his rookie year. Struggled at times but finished relatively strong. I'll take it for a second round pick when my team is searching for it's franchise QB. Grade: B- 3-63: Travis Kelce, TE (Chiefs) So far appears to be more fragile than Moeaki. Grade: F 3-96: Tyler Wilson, QB (Raiders) Sweet merciful mother. Grade: F 5-134: Jesse Williams, DT (Seahawks) Training Camp IR. Grade: F 6-170: John Boyett, S (Colts) This is the guy who had the great story last September where he told cops, "You can't arrest me; I'm a Colts player" and then got cut right after. Naturally he is now a Denver Bronco, albeit as a practice squad player. Grade: F 6-204: Jordan Poyer, CB (Eagles) Like Rainman said, he's still in the league and produced some as a rookie. I'll take the same grade: B- |
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I love this time of year. My draft needs:
Huge Need Fullback - Need a starter. I've got no one. Tight end - Need a starter. Tony Gonzalez is retiring and his depth is Fasano. Offensive tackle - Probably need a starter. Losing Albert and Schwartz and my starters will be Eric Winston and Menelik Watson Free Safety - Need a starter. Baccari Rambo and Kendrick Lewis aren't solutions. Outside Linebacker. Need a starter. I've got Hali, but all my other guys are backups. Defensive End. I can't seem to solve this problem. Need a starter. I've got Devito and Alex Carrington, and some backups. Plus Pitoitua if he started. Moderate Need Quarterback - Need a backup. I've got Russell Wilson. Wide receiver - Need a #2 or #3 if I can't find hidden gold. I've got Bowe and Kendall Wright starting. Nose Tackle - Need depth, most likely, but maybe one of last year's rookies will step up. I have Lotulelei starting. Mild Need Guard - Need some depth. Got Wade Smith and Alex Boone. Brian Waters is retiring. Cornerback - Need a dime back, but I'm good with Flowers, Alphonso Dennard, and Sean Smith. No Need Halfback - No need other than deep depth. I've got Jamaal and CJ Spiller. Center - Need some depth. I've got Rodney Hudson. Kicker - Fine. Got Henery. Punter - Fine. Got Colquitt. Strong Safety - Maybe some depth. I've got Reshad Jones. Inside Linebacker. Fine. I've got DJ and Maualuga. |
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1-13: OLB Jarvis Jones Georgia 2-39: QB Geno Smith WVUOk CB/S Dave Amerson NC State 3-63: TE Travis Kelcie Cincinnati 3-72: WR Stedman Bailey WVU 3-96: OC Brian Schwenkie California 4-99: OG/OT Barrett Jones Alabama 5-134: DT Jessie Williams Alabama 5-141: ILB AJ Klien Iowa State 6-178: DE Joe Kruger Utah 6-204: DE/OLB Mike Capatano Princeton Trades Reject Alex Smith trade sign CB Dunta Robinson $15m/3 years sign S Hasain Abdullah sign WR Mardy Gilyard sign DT Marcus Dixon sign TE Kevin Brock sign TE Anthony Fasano 4 years sign QB Chase Daniel 3 years sign DE Mike DeVito $12.6m/3 years sign WR Donnie Avery 3 years sign CB Sean Smith $18m/3 years ($11m guaranteed) sign OT/OG Geoff Schwartz sign FB Ryan D'Imperio sign LB Chad Kilgore sign LB Frank Zombo sign OL Tommie Draheim qb: I unlike the chiefs have a young qb being groomed rb: same as chiefs wr: stronger than the chiefs with crabtree and bowe Te: unfortunately i didn't draft moeaki so i'm weaker OL: I have youthfull backups but like chiefs need a rt c: stronger i have matt tenet as the hier apparent to wegman k and P: same as chieffs De: more youth than chiefs with selvie added DT: stronger than chiefs with Cam Thomas OLB bout the same as chiefs ILB : stronger with spikes and DJ Cb: same as chiefs S: weaker cause no SS kendrick lewis overall stronger than the chiefs in certain areas draft needs in no order TE, RT, qb, RB WR unlike the chiefs i'm good at DT. 2009 draft #3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers) #67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears) #102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) #139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) #175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins) #212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) #237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers) #256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs) 2010 draft 1st: Eric Berry S Tennessee 2nd: Javier Arenas CB Alabama 2nd: Brandon Spikes ILB Florida 3rd: Jon Asamoah OG Illinois 4th: Kam Chancelor FS Virginia Tech 5th: CAm Thomas NT North Carolina 5th: John Skelton QB Fordham 5th: Matt Tenet OC Boston College 6th: George Selvie OLB South Florida 2011 Draft 1. Mark Ingram rb alabama 2. Dontay. Moch. OLB. Nevada 3. Leonard Hankerson WR. Miami 3. Allen. Bailey. DE. Miami 4. Owen Marecic. FB. Stanford 5. Ricky Stanzi. QB. Iowa 5. Ahmad. Black. S. Florida 6. Jerrel Powe NT Mississippi 7. Lee Ziemba. OT. Auburn 2012 Draft: 1. DT Dontari Powe Memphis 2. OL Jeff Allen Illinois 3. OT Donald Stephenson Oklahoma 4. WR Devon Wiley Fresno State 5. DB Dequan Menzie Alabama 6. RB Cyrus Gray Texas A & M 7. DE Jerome Long San Diego State 7. WR Junior Hemingway Michigan ok done some thinking traded Tank Tyler midseason, traded thigpen when we did never traded for the two bumbs in Miami. so with that 1st, 2 2nds, 3rd, 4th, 3 5ths, and a 6th QB 12 Smith, Geno 10 Daniel, Chase 9 Bray, Tyler HB 25 Charles, Jamaal 28 Mark Ingram - 42 Cyrus Gray FB 42 Sherman, Anthony WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne - 16 starts 15 Michael Crabtree -15 starts 13 Bailey, Stedman 88 Junior Hemmingway 00 Dressler, Weston TE 80 Fasano, Anthony 87 Kelcie, Travis 47 Harris, Demitrus T 79 Donald Stephenson 78 Eric Winstrom 77 Barrett Jones 00 Linchenbach, Jeff G 74 Smith, Wade G 16 starts 73 Asomah, john - 1 start 72 Jeff Allen 75 Johnson, Rishaw 69 Watkins, Rokevious C 62 Schwenkie, Brian 61 AQ Shipley K 6 Ryan Succop K South Carolina- 16 starts P 2 Colquitt, Dustin P - 16 starts LS 43 Thomas Gafford FS 37 Kam Chancelor 39 Abdullah, Hussain 41 Bronson, Malcolm SS 29 berry, eric - 16 starts Ahmad Black CB 24 Flowers, Brandon 38 Amerson, Dave 27 Smith, Steve 37 Parker, Ron 31 Cooper, Marcus 00 Owens, Chris OLB 91 Hali, Tamba - 16 starts 95 Jones, Jarvis 52 Moch, Dontay ILB 56 Johnson, Derrick - 16 starts 51 spikes, brandon - 8 starts 48 Klien, AJ 00 Mays, Joe DE 97 Allen Bailey 99 Selvie, George 94 gillberry, wallace -2 starts 77 Capatano, Michael 90 Kruger, Joe DT 93 Jerrell Powe 92 Dontari Poe 93 Thomas, CAm 57 Williams, Jessie 70 DeVito, Mike 00 Walker, Vance |
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never traded for alex smith or the original dolphins deals
2014 NFL Draft picks: 1. 23rd 2. 24th 3. 87th 4. 124th 5. 163rd 6. 193rd 6. 200th |
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What was the Dolphins deal? I'm just curious about the extra second round pick. (Not being a lawyer or anything, I'm just curious.) |
its the alex smith trade I never made it so I have the two picks. Also had the trade with the jets last year.
Dolphins picks were the pioli trade for the o lineman |
wow only two real players out of 2009 draft rest are out of the league
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ok since we are allowed to trade once i'm taking that option and trading the number 23 to Houston or Washington for at least a second and third and whatever else is fair value whichever team has the better deal
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As an example, the #23 pick is normally worth 760 points. You multiply that by .65 and you can trade it to Houston in return for picks worth 494 points. Houston holds the following tradable picks (compensatory picks cannot be traded): 1-1 (1st pick) = 3000 points 2-1 (33rd) = 580 points 3-1 (65th) = 265 points 4-1 (101st) = 96 points 5-1 (141st) = 35.5 points 6-1 (177th) = 21.6 points 6-5 (181st) = 20 points 7-1 (216th) = 6 points So your 494 points can buy you Houston's 3rd, 4th, 5th, both 6ths, and a 7th since they add up to less than that amount. However, you can't get their 2nd since it costs 580 points. If you want their 2nd, you'd have to come up with more points, but that would make no sense. You could do that, but's not going to be worth it. Trade downs in this game have to be at a significant penalty, because otherwise we'd always trade down a few spots to get our guy and keep picking up extra picks. |
I heard a trade Washington would trade second, third, fourth for 23 why can't i do that?
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Ok but that makes no sense and isn't reality that a team would trade their one for a third and fourth. Sorry that's where your scale is flawed I'm also trading before the draft that should be higher value according to what you said. If a team trades down in first usually involve second and some other picks
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Personally, I would have been fine if we outlawed trades altogether because we never have anyone on the other side of the trade making sure it makes sense for the other team. But I'm OK with what we decided. Last year, I'm not sure any team would have traded up into the 1.1 for even a discounted rate of 65%. |
Fine I'll keep the pick then no way am I trading first for a third and fourth
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If we made trades before the NFL draft, perhaps we could do it at market value without the discount because the perfect knowledge isn't there yet. I think we talked about that at some point and decided that it wasn't worth having to monitor when trades occurred. But even then, as patteeu mentioned, we don't have anyone monitoring the interests of the trading team, so we just shrugged and kept the post-NFL system. |
Preseason Roster:
not addded free agents from draft if any look like they make the roster 2014 Draft: 1st: DE/OLB Dee Ford Auburn 2nd: OG Gabe Jackson Mississippi State 3rd: OLB Carl Bradford ASU 4th: RB/WR De'Anthony Thomas Oregon 5th: QB AJ MCcaron Alabama 6th: ILB Andrew Jackson Western Kentucky 6th: OT Laurent Duvernay-Tardif McGill Ok I'm updated 1-13: OLB Jarvis Jones Georgia 2-39: QB Geno Smith WVUOk CB/S Dave Amerson NC State 3-63: TE Travis Kelcie Cincinnati 3-72: WR Stedman Bailey WVU 3-96: OC Brian Schwenkie California 4-99: OG/OT Barrett Jones Alabama 5-134: DT Jessie Williams Alabama 5-141: ILB AJ Klien Iowa State 6-178: DE Joe Kruger Utah 6-204: DE/OLB Mike Capatano Princeton Trades Reject Alex Smith trade sign CB Dunta Robinson $15m/3 years sign S Hasain Abdullah sign WR Mardy Gilyard sign DT Marcus Dixon sign TE Kevin Brock sign TE Anthony Fasano 4 years sign QB Chase Daniel 3 years sign DE Mike DeVito $12.6m/3 years sign WR Donnie Avery 3 years sign CB Sean Smith $18m/3 years ($11m guaranteed) sign OT/OG Geoff Schwartz sign FB Ryan D'Imperio sign LB Chad Kilgore sign LB Frank Zombo sign OL Tommie Draheim qb: I unlike the chiefs have a young qb being groomed rb: same as chiefs wr: stronger than the chiefs with crabtree and bowe Te: unfortunately i didn't draft moeaki so i'm weaker OL: I have youthfull backups but like chiefs need a rt c: stronger i have matt tenet as the hier apparent to wegman k and P: same as chieffs De: more youth than chiefs with selvie added DT: stronger than chiefs with Cam Thomas OLB bout the same as chiefs ILB : stronger with spikes and DJ Cb: same as chiefs S: weaker cause no SS kendrick lewis overall stronger than the chiefs in certain areas draft needs in no order TE, RT, qb, RB WR unlike the chiefs i'm good at DT. 2009 draft #3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers) #67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears) #102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) #139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) #175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins) #212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) #237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers) #256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs) 2010 draft 1st: Eric Berry S Tennessee 2nd: Javier Arenas CB Alabama 2nd: Brandon Spikes ILB Florida 3rd: Jon Asamoah OG Illinois 4th: Kam Chancelor FS Virginia Tech 5th: CAm Thomas NT North Carolina 5th: John Skelton QB Fordham 5th: Matt Tenet OC Boston College 6th: George Selvie OLB South Florida 2011 Draft 1. Mark Ingram rb alabama 2. Dontay. Moch. OLB. Nevada 3. Leonard Hankerson WR. Miami 3. Allen. Bailey. DE. Miami 4. Owen Marecic. FB. Stanford 5. Ricky Stanzi. QB. Iowa 5. Ahmad. Black. S. Florida 6. Jerrel Powe NT Mississippi 7. Lee Ziemba. OT. Auburn 2012 Draft: 1. DT Dontari Powe Memphis 2. OL Jeff Allen Illinois 3. OT Donald Stephenson Oklahoma 4. WR Devon Wiley Fresno State 5. DB Dequan Menzie Alabama 6. RB Cyrus Gray Texas A & M 7. DE Jerome Long San Diego State 7. WR Junior Hemingway Michigan ok done some thinking traded Tank Tyler midseason, traded thigpen when we did never traded for the two bumbs in Miami. so with that 1st, 2 2nds, 3rd, 4th, 3 5ths, and a 6th QB 12 Smith, Geno 10 McCaron, AJ 9 Bray, Tyler HB 25 Charles, Jamaal 28 Mark Ingram - 42 Cyrus Gray FB 42 Sherman, Anthony WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne - 16 starts 15 Michael Crabtree -15 starts 13 Bailey, Stedman 88 Junior Hemmingway 00 Dressler, Weston 15 Jenkins, AJ ? Thomas, De'Anthony TE 80 Fasano, Anthony 87 Kelcie, Travis 47 Harris, Demitrus T 79 Donald Stephenson 78 Eric Winstrom 77 Barrett Jones 00 Linchenbach, Jeff 76 Duvernay-Tardif, Laurent G 74 Smith, Wade G 16 starts 72 Jeff Allen 75 Johnson, Rishaw 69 Watkins, Rokevious 66 Jackson, Gabe C 62 Schwenkie, Brian 68 Shipley, AQ K 6 Succop, Ryan P 2 Colquitt, Dustin LS 43 Thomas Gafford FS 37 Chancelor, Kam 39 Abdullah, Hussain 41 Bronson, Malcolm SS 29 berry, eric - Ahmad Black CB 24 Flowers, Brandon 38 Amerson, Dave 27 Smith, Steve 37 Parker, Ron 31 Cooper, Marcus 00 Owens, Chris OLB 91 Hali, Tamba 95 Jones, Jarvis 52 Moch, Dontay 90 Ford, Dee ILB 56 Johnson, Derrick - 51 spikes, brandon - 48 Klien, AJ 00 Mays, Joe 91 Bradford, Carl 54 Jackson, Andrew DE 97 Allen Bailey 99 Selvie, George 94 gillberry, wallace -2 starts 77 Capatano, Michael 90 Kruger, Joe DT 93 Jerrell Powe 92 Dontari Poe 93 Thomas, CAm 57 Williams, Jessie 70 DeVito, Mike 00 Walker, Vance |
Yep, it's that time. We need to list our draft choices.
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Due to free agency so far, I assume we lose:
Branden Albert T Jon Asamoah G Quintin Demps FS Tyson Jackson DE Akeem Jordan ILB Kendrick Lewis FS Dexter McCluster WR Jerrell Powe NT Geoff Schwartz G and I assume we have the option to add: Cory Grissom DT Otis Hudson G Jeffrey Linkenbach G Joe Mays ILB Chris Owens CB Vance Walker DT with these guys still in limbo: Terrance Copper WR Chad Hall WR Jerrell Jackson WR Dunta Robinson CB Anthony Toribio DT |
Boy, I'm hurting at offensive tackle with seemingly slim pickings in the draft.
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Thanks for the free agency update.
Losing Albert is going to hurt all of us, I think. And yeah, I don't think any of the Tier 1 tackles dropped far enough for us to draft one. I kept Eric Winston but he's been cut, so I may be out of luck on both tackle spots. I better hope that Menelik Watson starts in Oakland this year. |
I kind of prepared for it but yes tackles gonna hurt everyone
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Ok I never cut my draft pick I forgot to add him this upcoming season lee Ziemba is still on my team.
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Okay, so the base draft of the Chiefs this year is...
1-23 2-56, but only if you did not accept the Alex Smith trade 3-87 4-124 5-163 6-193 minus the 7-238, but only if you had Edgar Jones on your roster and accept the trade with the Cowboys 6-200 7-238 unless you had Edgar Jones on your roster and accept the trade with the Cowboys |
This is not going to be a sexy draft for me. My offensive line was decimated this year. Three of my five offensive line starters have left in free agency or been released by their team.
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In the long run, that means we probably need to evaluate if the simulation is still fair since, as we diverge more and more from the Chiefs' roster, we're continuing to get free agents and aren't really losing them at the same pace. But we can discuss that after the draft. |
Okay, I studied this all day and I'm making my picks.
This draft was brutal. Every position of need for me seemed to get drafted before I could get my picks, and then there would be a big dropoff. I hate trading down, but I had no choice this year. First, we are trading down with the Buffalo Bills. We are trading our #23 pick (760 points, discounted to 494) for their #44 pick (460 points), #153 pick (30.2 points), and #221 pick (3 points). I did not make the Alex Smith trade, so I keep my #56, and I didn't have Edgar Jones to trade, so I don't move up at the bottom of the round. My picks are: 44 56 87 124 153 163 200 221 238 And without further ado, my draft is ... #44 - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (Bills) With Branden Albert and Geoff Schwartz leaving, and with Eric Winston currently without a team, the only tackle on my roster is Menelik Watson. Kouandjio seems to have a good chance at being a starter if his medical stuff works out. Other players considered: Xavier Su'a-Filo (G), Dee Ford (DE/OLB), or Teddy Bridgewater (QB) if no trade down. The first two would've filled big needs but I decided I could get a better return on investment with later picks. #56 - Morgan Moses, OT (Redskins) Yeah, two tackles with my first two picks. I've had problems replenishing this position over the years, so it's time to stock up. Others considered: Kony Ealy (DE), C.J. Fiedorowicz (TE), Terrance Brooks (FS). Three more areas of need, but Moses seemed like the best value. I also pondered Gabe Jackson (G) and Louis Nix (NT). #87 - Donte Moncrief, WR (Colts). This pick was very difficult. I really wanted to fill one of my major needs areas, but couldn't find a pick that seemed worth the price. WR is a bit of a luxury here, though I could use some depth and competition. Others considered: Crockett Gilmore (TE) was on my board almost the whole time as a need pick since Tony Gonzalez retired on me, but I eventually decided that I could get by with Fasano and Travis Kelce and see how they do. That let me go with the player that I think has the higher upside. If we were allowed two trade-downs, I would've traded down out of this pick and taken Carl Bradford (OLB) and some lower picks. But since I couldn't trade down, Moncrief seemed like the better risk. #124 - David Yankey, G (Vikings). With Brian Waters' career in doubt and Wade Smith getting cut, my once-deep guard position was suddenly shaky. Yankey seemed like a really good value pick here who can potentially fill a need. Others considered: None, really. Yankey was way above my other choices. I looked at G Dakota Dozier and OLB Telvin Smith, along with FS Nate Berhe. #153 - Ed Reynolds, FS (Eagles) I really need a free safety, and the top ones went before my first-round pick. Ed Reynolds can be competitive for the starting position with Quentin Demps on my roster. Screw Kendrick Lewis. I may cut him even if I don't have any other safeties. Others considered: I really wanted DE Chris Smith as well, but couldn't find a way to get both. It came down to Smith or Reynolds. #163 - Ronald Powell, OLB (Saints). He's a medical risk that I'm hoping pays off, because I'm very shallow at OLB right now. Others considered: Lots of good choices here. I really struggled between OLB Jordan Tripp versus Powell, so hopefully I made the right decision. I also strongly considered the two QBs (Aaron Murray and A.J. McCarren), along with FS Vinnie Sunseri. #200 - Daniel McCullers, NT (Steelers). I invested heavily in the DT position last year with three draft picks, but only one of them had a good year. McCullers seems like a cheap backup with notable upside. Others considered: OT Laurent Duvernay-Tardif and DT Shamar Stephen. I've already drafted two OTs, though, and liked McCullers on the nose. He's huge. I also pondered FB Jay Prosch, but figured I'd wait on that position. #221 - Trevor Reilly, OLB (Jets). I think he slipped a lot due to his age (Mormon mission), but if I can get a good player cheap for a few years, he's definitely worth a late pick. Others considered: None, really. He was my guy in this slot. #238 - Trey Millard, FB (49ers). I need a fullback. He's a fullback. Let's hope he sticks on the Niners' roster. Others considered: There were a few others that I liked, including OLB Tyler Starr, ILB Yawin Smallwood, and WR Tevin Reese. But they were all depth at this point and I had no fullback on the roster. In summary, my draft is: #44 - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (Bills) #56 - Morgan Moses, OT (Redskins) #87 - Donte Moncrief, WR (Colts) #124 - David Yankey, G (Vikings). #153 - Ed Reynolds, FS (Eagles) #163 - Ronald Powell, OLB (Saints). #200 - Daniel McCullers, NT (Steelers). #221 - Trevor Reilly, OLB (Jets). #238 - Trey Millard, FB (49ers). |
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2) I didn't have Edgar Jones on my roster, 3) I'm trading down with the Denver Broncos. I give them my #23 (760 pts), discounted to 494 pts. In return, we get #56 (340 pts), #95 (120 pts), #156 (30 pts), and #242 (1.2 pts) for a total of 491.2 pts. so my picks are: #56 - Cody Latimer WR (Indiana) - Denver I coveted Jordan Matthews with my first pick, but I was able to get more back in a trade with Denver for a similar player who is also headed to a prolific offense. #87 - Phillip Gaines CB (Rice) - KC I'm already in good shape at CB, but the draft didn't really fall to my needs well here and Gaines will give me insurance in case KC parts ways with Brandon Flowers in the next year or two. #95 - Michael Schofield OT (Michigan) - Denver With the loss of Branden Albert, my offensive line is looking pretty thin. Terron Armstead is penciled in as my starting LT, but my other tackles are still big question marks. Schofield and 6th round pick of Laurent Duvernay-Tardif give me a couple of other prospects to take up the slack or play guard in a pinch. #124 - Kevin Pierre-Louis OLB (Boston College) - Seattle With Tamba Hali getting older, it's time to find his replacement. I've got a couple candidates on my roster, but no sure things so I'll add Pierre-Louis to the mix and hope for the best. #156 - Ed Reynolds S (Stanford) - Philadelphia Reynolds is a guy I had targeted to bolster my thin safety ranks. The trade down was designed around him and Latimer. #163 - Aaron Murray QB (Georgia) - KC I don't know whether he'll replace Chase Daniel or Tyler Bray, but I think he's a good deal this late in the draft and I expect him to have an equal or better career than either of those guys. #200 - Laurent Duvernay-Tardif OT (McGill) - KC He's smart, he's strong, and he's big. I hope his name will fit on the jersey. #238 - Trey Millard FB (Oklahoma) - San Francisco I too need a FB. Why, oh why didn't I roster Anthony Sherman so I could use this pick on Henry Josey? I don't know, but at least I have one more pick. #242 - Bruce Gaston NT (Purdue) - Arizona Damnit! I need a NT worse than I need a RB so no Henry Josey here. NT is probably my thinnest position. One of the guys on my roster plays for Arizona so I'm picking up Gaston with my final pick because he went to Arizona as an UDFA. It's possible that neither of them will win the starting job, but one of them will almost surely make the team. |
Ah, interesting. Another trade down.
I'm philosophically opposed to trading down, but have now done it two years in a row with my top choice. Last year was a no-brainer with the value of the #1 pick, but this year was just a fluke of player availability for me. I would've probably taken my top pick with the #23 pick, so I might as well trade down and get a couple of late picks as well. |
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With possibility of Kurt Coleman Preseason Roster: not addded free agents from draft if any look like they make the roster 2014 Draft: 1st: DE/OLB Dee Ford Auburn 2nd: OG Gabe Jackson Mississippi State 3rd: OLB Carl Bradford ASU 4th: RB/WR De'Anthony Thomas Oregon 5th: QB AJ MCcaron Alabama 6th: ILB Andrew Jackson Western Kentucky 6th: OT Laurent Duvernay-Tardif McGill Ok I'm updated 1-13: OLB Jarvis Jones Georgia 2-39: QB Geno Smith WVUOk CB/S Dave Amerson NC State 3-63: TE Travis Kelcie Cincinnati 3-72: WR Stedman Bailey WVU 3-96: OC Brian Schwenkie California 4-99: OG/OT Barrett Jones Alabama 5-134: DT Jessie Williams Alabama 5-141: ILB AJ Klien Iowa State 6-178: DE Joe Kruger Utah 6-204: DE/OLB Mike Capatano Princeton Trades Reject Alex Smith trade sign CB Dunta Robinson $15m/3 years sign S Hasain Abdullah sign WR Mardy Gilyard sign DT Marcus Dixon sign TE Kevin Brock sign TE Anthony Fasano 4 years sign QB Chase Daniel 3 years sign DE Mike DeVito $12.6m/3 years sign WR Donnie Avery 3 years sign CB Sean Smith $18m/3 years ($11m guaranteed) sign OT/OG Geoff Schwartz sign FB Ryan D'Imperio sign LB Chad Kilgore sign LB Frank Zombo sign OL Tommie Draheim qb: I unlike the chiefs have a young qb being groomed rb: same as chiefs wr: stronger than the chiefs with crabtree and bowe Te: unfortunately i didn't draft moeaki so i'm weaker OL: I have youthfull backups but like chiefs need a rt c: stronger i have matt tenet as the hier apparent to wegman k and P: same as chieffs De: more youth than chiefs with selvie added DT: stronger than chiefs with Cam Thomas OLB bout the same as chiefs ILB : stronger with spikes and DJ Cb: same as chiefs S: weaker cause no SS kendrick lewis overall stronger than the chiefs in certain areas draft needs in no order TE, RT, qb, RB WR unlike the chiefs i'm good at DT. 2009 draft #3- Michael Crabtree - WR Texas Tech (49ers) #67- Jaron Gilbert - DE San Jose ST (Bears) #102- Brandon Williams - OLB/DE. Texas Tech (cowboys) #139- Cornellius Ingram- TE Florida (eagles) #175- A. Gardner- OT Georgia Tech (dolphins) #212- AQ Shipley- OC. Penn State (steelers) #237- Darry Beckwith- ILB LSU. (chargers) #256- Ryan Succop- PK. South Carolina. (chiefs) 2010 draft 1st: Eric Berry S Tennessee 2nd: Javier Arenas CB Alabama 2nd: Brandon Spikes ILB Florida 3rd: Jon Asamoah OG Illinois 4th: Kam Chancelor FS Virginia Tech 5th: CAm Thomas NT North Carolina 5th: John Skelton QB Fordham 5th: Matt Tenet OC Boston College 6th: George Selvie OLB South Florida 2011 Draft 1. Mark Ingram rb alabama 2. Dontay. Moch. OLB. Nevada 3. Leonard Hankerson WR. Miami 3. Allen. Bailey. DE. Miami 4. Owen Marecic. FB. Stanford 5. Ricky Stanzi. QB. Iowa 5. Ahmad. Black. S. Florida 6. Jerrel Powe NT Mississippi 7. Lee Ziemba. OT. Auburn 2012 Draft: 1. DT Dontari Powe Memphis 2. OL Jeff Allen Illinois 3. OT Donald Stephenson Oklahoma 4. WR Devon Wiley Fresno State 5. DB Dequan Menzie Alabama 6. RB Cyrus Gray Texas A & M 7. DE Jerome Long San Diego State 7. WR Junior Hemingway Michigan ok done some thinking traded Tank Tyler midseason, traded thigpen when we did never traded for the two bumbs in Miami. so with that 1st, 2 2nds, 3rd, 4th, 3 5ths, and a 6th QB 12 Smith, Geno 10 McCaron, AJ HB 25 Charles, Jamaal 28 Mark Ingram - 42 Cyrus Gray FB 42 Sherman, Anthony WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne - 16 starts 15 Michael Crabtree -15 starts 13 Bailey, Stedman 88 Junior Hemmingway 11 Wilson, Albert 13 Thomas, De'Anthony TE 80 Fasano, Anthony 87 Kelcie, Travis 47 Harris, Demitrus T 71 Jeff Allen 79 Donald Stephenson 77 Barrett Jones 00 Linchenbach, Jeff 76 Duvernay-Tardif, Lauren 68 Ryan Harris G 71 Jeff Allen 75 Johnson, Rishaw 66 Jackson, Gabe 78 Mike McGlynn 77 Barrett Jones C 62 Schwenkie, Brian 77 Barrett Jones K 6 Succop, Ryan P 2 Colquitt, Dustin LS 43 Thomas Gafford FS 37 Chancelor, Kam 39 Abdullah, Hussain 41 Bronson, Malcolm SS 29 berry, eric - 27 Kurt Coleman CB 24 Flowers, Brandon 38 Amerson, Dave 27 Smith, Steve 31 Cooper, Marcus OLB 91 Hali, Tamba 95 Jones, Jarvis 90 Ford, Dee 91 Bradford, Carl 96 Josh Martin ILB 56 Johnson, Derrick - 51 spikes, brandon - 48 Klien, AJ 54 Jackson, Andrew DE 97 Allen Bailey 99 Selvie, George 98 Damion Squaire 70 Mike Devito 99 Vance Walker DT 93 Jerrell Powe 92 Dontari Poe 70 DeVito, Mike 99 Walker, Vance IR Qb Tyler Bray DT Jessie Williams DE Mike Capatano Last edited by chiefscafan; 05-15-2014 at 11:25 AM.. |
Ok my question is if both my qbs are injured reserve who am I allowed to pick up??
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Los Angeles Cobras 2014 Roster:
QB 12 Smith, Geno 10 McCaron, AJ HB 25 Charles, Jamaal 28 Mark Ingram - 42 Cyrus Gray FB 42 Sherman, Anthony WR 82 Bowe, Dwayne - 16 starts 15 Michael Crabtree -15 starts 13 Bailey, Stedman 88 Junior Hemmingway 11 Wilson, Albert 13 Thomas, De'Anthony TE 80 Fasano, Anthony 87 Kelcie, Travis 47 Harris, Demitrus T 71 Jeff Allen 79 Donald Stephenson 77 Barrett Jones 00 Linchenbach, Jeff 76 Duvernay-Tardif, Lauren 68 Ryan Harris G 71 Jeff Allen 75 Johnson, Rishaw 66 Jackson, Gabe 78 Mike McGlynn 77 Barrett Jones C 62 Schwenkie, Brian 77 Barrett Jones K 6 Succop, Ryan P 2 Colquitt, Dustin LS 43 Thomas Gafford FS 37 Chancelor, Kam 39 Abdullah, Hussain 41 Bronson, Malcolm SS 29 berry, eric - 27 Kurt Coleman CB 24 Flowers, Brandon 38 Amerson, Dave 27 Smith, Steve 31 Cooper, Marcus OLB 91 Hali, Tamba 95 Jones, Jarvis 90 Ford, Dee 91 Bradford, Carl 96 Josh Martin ILB 56 Johnson, Derrick - 51 spikes, brandon - 48 Klien, AJ 54 Jackson, Andrew DE 97 Allen Bailey 99 Selvie, George 98 Damion Squaire 70 Mike Devito 99 Vance Walker DT 93 Jerrell Powe 92 Dontari Poe 70 DeVito, Mike 99 Walker, Vance IR Qb Tyler Bray DT Jessie Williams DE Mike Capatano Last edited by chiefscafan; 05-15-2014 at 11:25 AM.. |
Oh, yeah. We need to get our final 53-man rosters put together, don't we?
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Chiefs free agency losses. If these guys are on your team, they're gone now:
Branden Albert LT Signed KC MIA 5 $47,000,000 Mar 11 Tyson Jackson DE Signed KC ATL 5 $25,000,000 Mar 11 Jon Asamoah G Signed KC ATL 5 $22,500,000 Mar 11 Geoff Schwartz G Signed KC NYG 4 $16,800,000 Mar 11 Dexter McCluster WR Signed KC TEN 3 $9,000,000 Mar 11 Brandon Flowers CB Signed KC SD 1 $3,000,000 Jun 24 Chiefs free agency gains who made the roster. You can add these guys to your team for free. Kurt Coleman, FS Frankie Hammond, WR Ryan Harris, RT Jaye Howard, DT Jeffrey Linkenbach, G Josh Martin, OLB Josh Mauga, ILB Kelcie McCray, FS Mike McGlynn, G Joe McKnight, RB Chris Owens, CB Cairo Santos, K Daniel Sorensen, S Damion Square, DE (Wait, who? Where'd this guy come from? He's on our 53-man roster?) Albert Wilson, WR Campbell, Jordan FB Fangupo, Hebron DT Franklin, Jerry LB Gottschalk, Ben C Henry, Ricky G Schwenke, Kona DT Surgent, Darryl WR Walker, Vance, DE West, Charcandrick RB Williams, Fred WR If you had Jon Baldwin on your team, you can trade him for AJ Jenkins. Or keep Baldwin. Whatever. |
So here's what I'm working with.
Free Agents and Camp Signings Kurt Coleman, FS Frankie Hammond, WR Ryan Harris, RT Jaye Howard, DT Jeffrey Linkenbach, G Josh Martin, OLB Josh Mauga, ILB Kelcie McCray, FS Mike McGlynn, G Joe McKnight, RB Chris Owens, CB Cairo Santos, K Daniel Sorensen, S Damion Square, DE (Wait, who? Where'd this guy come from? He's on our 53-man roster?) Albert Wilson, WR Campbell, Jordan FB Fangupo, Hebron DT Franklin, Jerry LB Gottschalk, Ben C Henry, Ricky G Schwenke, Kona DT Surgent, Darryl WR West, Charcandrick RB Williams, Fred WR My Draft: #44 - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (Bills) #56 - Morgan Moses, OT (Redskins) #87 - Donte Moncrief, WR (Colts). #124 - David Yankey, G (Vikings). #153 - Ed Reynolds, FS (Eagles) #163 - Ronald Powell, OLB (Saints). #200 - Daniel McCullers, NT (Steelers). #221 - Trevor Reilly, OLB (Jets). #238 - Trey Millard, FB (49ers). My final 53-man roster last year was this: QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) Geno Smith (Jets) Tyler Bray Tyler Wilson (Raiders) HB Jamaal Charles C.J. Spiller. (Bills) Denard Robinson (Jaguars) FB/H-Back WR Dwayne Bowe Kendall Wright (Titans) WR Donnie Avery Leonard Hankerson (Redskins) TE Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) - Retired Anthony Fasano Travis Kelce (Chiefs) Kevin Brock OT Branden Albert - Free Agent Eric Winston Menelik Watson (Raiders) Geoff Schwartz - Free Agent G Wade Smith Brian Waters - Retired Alex Boone (49ers) Jason Pinkston (Browns) C Rodney Hudson (Chiefs) K Alex Henery (Eagles) P Dustin Colquitt FS Baccari Rambo (Redskins) Kendrick Lewis SS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) Quinton Demps CB Brandon Flowers - Free Agent Alphonso Dennard (Patriots) CB Sean Smith CB Dunta Robinson D.J. Moore (Bears) Jordan Poyer (Eagles) OLB Tamba Hali Zach Brown (Titans) Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers) LB Frank Zombo Chris Carter (Steelers) ILB Derrick Johnson Rey Maualuga (Bengals) AJ Klein (Panthers) DE DE Mike DeVito DE Alex Carrington (Bills) Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers) Ropati Pitoitua Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons) NT Star Lotulelei (Panthers) Brandon Williams (Ravens) Jesse Williams (Seahawks) Anthony Toribio |
So here's my camp roster. I'll cut this down to 53. Black is veterans, red is rookies, and the color that's labeled but didn't work is free agents.
QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) Geno Smith (Jets) Tyler Bray Tyler Wilson (Raiders) HB Jamaal Charles C.J. Spiller. (Bills) Denard Robinson (Jaguars) [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Joe McKnight, RB [/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]West, Charcandrick RB [/COLOR] FB/H-Back #238 - Trey Millard, FB (49ers). [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Campbell, Jordan FB [/COLOR] WR Dwayne Bowe Kendall Wright (Titans) WR Donnie Avery Leonard Hankerson (Redskins) #87 - Donte Moncrief, WR (Colts). [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Albert Wilson, WR [/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Frankie Hammond, WR [/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Surgent, Darryl WR [/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Williams, Fred WR [/COLOR] TE Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) - Retired Anthony Fasano Travis Kelce (Chiefs) Kevin Brock OT Branden Albert - Free Agent Eric Winston Menelik Watson (Raiders) Geoff Schwartz - Free Agent #44 - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (Bills) #56 - Morgan Moses, OT (Redskins) [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Ryan Harris, RT [/COLOR] G Wade Smith Brian Waters - Retired Alex Boone (49ers) Jason Pinkston (Browns) #124 - David Yankey, G (Vikings). [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Mike McGlynn, G [/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Jeffrey Linkenbach, G [/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Henry, Ricky G [/COLOR] C Rodney Hudson (Chiefs) [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Gottschalk, Ben C [/COLOR] K Alex Henery (Eagles) [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Cairo Santos, K [/COLOR] P Dustin Colquitt FS Baccari Rambo (Redskins) Kendrick Lewis #153 - Ed Reynolds, FS (Eagles) Kurt Coleman, FS [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Kelcie McCray, FS [/COLOR] SS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) Quinton Demps [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Daniel Sorensen, S [/COLOR] CB Brandon Flowers - Free Agent Alphonso Dennard (Patriots) CB Sean Smith CB Dunta Robinson D.J. Moore (Bears) Jordan Poyer (Eagles) [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Chris Owens, CB [/COLOR] OLB Tamba Hali Zach Brown (Titans) Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers) LB Frank Zombo Chris Carter (Steelers) #163 - Ronald Powell, OLB (Saints). #221 - Trevor Reilly, OLB (Jets). [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Josh Martin, OLB [/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Franklin, Jerry LB [/COLOR] ILB Derrick Johnson Rey Maualuga (Bengals) AJ Klein (Panthers) [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Josh Mauga, ILB [/COLOR] DE DE Mike DeVito DE Alex Carrington (Bills) Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers) Ropati Pitoitua Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons) [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Damion Square, DE [/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Vance Walker, DE [/COLOR] NT Star Lotulelei (Panthers) Brandon Williams (Ravens) Jesse Williams (Seahawks) Anthony Toribio #200 - Daniel McCullers, NT (Steelers). [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Jaye Howard, DT [/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Schwenke, Kona DT [/COLOR] [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Fangupo, Hebron DT [/COLOR] |
Here's my final roster. My verdict is as follows:
Offense: My skill positions are very strong, but my offensive line and FB is a wreck. I lost three starters and two key backups from last year's line, so I'm scrambling, plus Tony Gonzalez retired. Defense: I think it's better than last year and I've built up my front seven, but I have some glaring weaknesses at OLB and FS, and a very thin CB crew. I finally gave up on Da'Quan Bowers after holding him for years, but had a lot of talent on the D-line this year. It's been a very strange year. I ended up with 19 new players on my roster, with lots of free agent departures, some retirements, and several guys changing positions. QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) Geno Smith (Jets) Tyler Bray Good starter, not much depth. HB Jamaal Charles C.J. Spiller. (Bills) Denard Robinson (Jaguars) Very strong here. Robinson has moved up to the 2nd string in Jacksonville. FB/H-Back 2014/#238 - Trey Millard, FB (49ers). He didn't make a team and got cut twice, but I have no one here. So he gets to start for me. I'm very weak here. I may put Charles and Spiller in the backfield a lot and rely on elusiveness. WR Dwayne Bowe Kendall Wright (Titans) WR Donnie Avery Frankie Hammond, WR 2014/#87 - Donte Moncrief, WR (Colts). Albert Wilson, WR All of a sudden I have depth galore if the free agents and rookies work out. I even had to make a difficult choice to cut injured WR Leonard Hankerson, who's been a good #3/#4 guy for me in the past. TE Anthony Fasano Travis Kelce (Chiefs) No depth, but let's see how it works out. It hurt to lose Tony G. OT Menelik Watson (Raiders) 2014/#56 - Morgan Moses, OT (Redskins) Ryan Harris, RT 2014/#44 - Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (Bills) I lost three OTs this offseason - Albert, Schwartz, and Eric Winston, so I'm desperate here. Watson has won a starting role in Oakland, but I'm going to start rookie Morgan Moses at LT. Kouandjio is apparently busting hard in Buffalo as my top rookie pick this year. G Alex Boone (49ers) Mike McGlynn, G 2014/#124 - David Yankey, G (Vikings). Jeffrey Linkenbach, G I lost two strong guards this year when Brian Waters retired (as a Chief since I never let him go) and Wade Smith got cut. So Boone will have to anchor the line with some backups. C Rodney Hudson (Chiefs) Hopefully solid. K Cairo Santos, K Got lucky here because my previous kicker, Alex Henery, got cut this year. It was a surprise because I thought he was pretty entrenched. So I'll be going with Karo Syrup. P Dustin Colquitt Hall of Famer. FS Kendrick Lewis Jordan Poyer (Eagles) Kelcie McCray, FS 2014/#153 - Ed Reynolds, FS (Eagles) Dammit! Dammit! I was so wanting to cut Kendrick Lewis. But he won the starting job in Tennessee and my starter last year, Baccari Rambo, got moved to SS. Dammit! I can't even make him a backup! Poyer was moved to FS from CB and will be my dime back. SS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) Baccari Rambo (Redskins) Strong here and also have depth. If Kendrick Lewis is Kendrick Lewis, Rambo may move back to FS for me. CB Alphonso Dennard (Patriots) CB Sean Smith Chris Owens, CB My corners got decimated this year. Flowers left and my veteran depth all got cut and Poyer moved to safety. I'm way too thin here. OLB Tamba Hali AJ Klein (Panthers) Josh Martin, OLB Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers) 2014/#221 - Trevor Reilly, OLB (Jets). 2014/#163 - Ronald Powell, OLB (Saints). Hali and a bunch of backups. I can't seem to solve this problem. I've got some developmental players that I'm stashing in the hope that one of them will develop. Klein was moved outside giving me yet another prospect. Zombo was a tough cut but I figure that I'll go with youth and potential. ILB Derrick Johnson Rey Maualuga (Bengals) Zach Brown (Titans) Josh Mauga, ILB Zach Brown was moved inside and won his starting job back, so I'm good here. DE Star Lotulelei (Panthers) DE Mike DeVito Ropati Pitoitua Vance Walker, DE Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons) We're moving Star out to DE, and we now have strong starters. Ropati is starting in Tennessee so we also have some depth. NT Brandon Williams (Ravens) DE Alex Carrington (Bills) 2014/#200 - Daniel McCullers, NT (Steelers). In good news, Brandon Williams won the starting NT job in Baltimore, which allows me to move Star out to DE. McCullers and Carrington are both backups that give me decent depth, with McCullers as a developmental prospect. Jesse Williams went on IR again, so I reluctantly cut him, and I gave up on Da'Quan Bowers, who was moved to DT this offseason. Tough Cuts: Quentin Demps, SS [COLOR="Blue)"]Daniel Sorensen, S [/color] LB Frank Zombo Jesse Williams (Seahawks) Leonard Hankerson (Redskins) [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Jaye Howard, DT [/color] Da'Quan Bowers (Buccaneers) [COLOR="rgb(65, 105, 225)"]Damion Square, DE [/color] Easy Cuts: Tyler Wilson (Raiders) West, Charcandrick RB Campbell, Jordan FB Surgent, Darryl WR Williams, Fred WR Tony Gonzalez (Falcons) - Retired Kevin Brock TE Branden Albert - Free Agent Eric Winston Geoff Schwartz - Free Agent Brian Waters - Retired Jason Pinkston (Browns) Wade Smith Gottschalk, Ben C Alex Henery (Eagles) Brandon Flowers - Free Agent CB Dunta Robinson D.J. Moore (Bears) Chris Carter (Steelers) Schwenke, Kona DT Fangupo, Hebron DT Anthony Toribio Joe McKnight, RB Henry, Ricky G Kurt Coleman, FS Franklin, Jerry LB |
Los Angeles Cobras 2014 beginning of the year synopsis:
Ok so because of injuries my QB situation isn't good I'm relying on geno smith WR I'm a lot better off than chiefs with Crabtree bowe Bailey RB Charles, Ingram , Gray TE chiefs tight ends Online is weak My D line is stronger As well as my linebackers CBS are stronger too Safeties are stronger So if geno has a good season so does cobras So season relies on one Geno Smith |
My roster. I think I've obeyed all the rules but let me know if I missed something. After yesterday I'm re-thinking the amount of trust I had in Dorsey.
QB Alex Smith Brock Osweiler (Broncos) Geno Smith (Jets) Tyler Bray Aaron Murray RB Jamaal Charles De'Anthony Thomas Anthony Sherman WR Dwayne Bowe Donnie Avery Tavon Austin (Rams) Rishard Matthews (Dolphins) AJ Jenkins Frankie Hammond Albert Wilson TE Travis Kelce Anthony Fasano OT Donald Stephenson Ryan Harris Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff G David DeCastro (Steelers) Zach Fulton Jeff Linkenbach Mike McGlynn C Rodney Hudson K Cairo Santos P Dustin Colquitt S Eric Berry George Iloka (Bengals) Hasain Abdullah Kelcie McCray CB Phillip Gaines Sean Smith Jordan Poyer (Eagles) Chris Owens OLB Tamba Hali Justin Houston Ricky Sapp (Jets) Dee Ford Josh Martin ILB Derrick Johnson Vontaze Burflict (Bengals) Josh Mauga DE Allen Bailey Mike DeVito Vance Walker NT Terrence Cody (Ravens) Cam Thomas (Steelers) Alameda Ta'amu (Cardinals) Jesse Williams (Seahawks) |
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Man I'm screwed I wanted to draft Wilson but I was too late posting it that year so I had to take chief picks. Geno has been a flop and AJ is on IR I still believe in him and if dalton has more games like Thursday he can take that job next season.
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Early returns on my draft this year are disastrous. That's what I get for investing in non-skill positions. |
Wow, my team had a collapse this year. Everything seemed to go wrong. I got only 12 starts from my rookie class, and I had injuries all over the field. I hope some of these rookies gain traction next year, because I'm learning that one bad draft will really hurt you.
My review of the year: Backfield - I was good here with Russell Wilson and Jamaal Charles, and a journeyman fullback. However, I lost CJ Spiller for most of the year, but Denard Robinson is coming along and stepped in. This wasn't my problem. Comparison with the real Chiefs: I win. Receivers - This is another bright spot, with Kendall Wright and Dwayne Bowe starting, and rookie Donte Moncrief coming in as a strong #3. I've also got depth and a developing Albert Wilson. On the tight end side, I lost Tony Gonzalez last year, but replaced him with Fasano and Travis Kelce, so I'm solid if not spectacular. Comparison with the real Chiefs: I win. Offensive line - Disaster here. I lost multiple starters as well as key depth. I drafted two rookies very high and they both struggled (Morgan Moses and Cyrus Kouandjio). Ryan Harris manned my right side and Menelik Watson covered part of the season on the left. At guard, I had Alex Boone (solid) and Mike McGlynn/Jeff Linkenbach. My rookie draft pick never saw the field. I have Hudson at center. Comparison with the real Chiefs: I think I lose. Special teams - Santos and Colquitt. You make the call. Comparison with the real Chiefs: tie. Defensive backs Wow. I thought I was in good shape, but my offseason killed me with various surprise cuts and retirements. Then Alfonzo Dennard got benched and Baccari Rambo got cut. My defensive backfield was decimated. I ended up starting Kendrick Lewis and Reshad Jones at safety, and Sean Smith and Dennard/Chris Owens at corner. This unit completely blew up on me. Comparison with the real Chiefs: I lose badly. Linebackers. I got a break here as two late-round picks for me have turned into starters on the outside. I've got Hali on one side, and AJ Klein and Trevor Reilly on the other. I lost DJ for the year, but have Rey Maualuga, and I ended up starting Josh Mauga. Zach Brown, who got off to a great career start, appears to be falling by the wayside. Comparison to real Chiefs: I lose badly. I should've drafted Justin Houston. Defensive line - I invested very heavily in this group last year, and got two starters out of it: Brandon Williams at NT and Star Lotulelei at 3-4 DE. Since Devito went down early, Ropati Pitoitua stepped up and started, and I don't have much else. Comparison to real Chiefs. I think I lose this one, but it may be close to a draw. This season was horrific for my team. Free agency defections, injuries, and what's looking like a weak draft all combined to really hurt. |
My draft needs this year:
High priority Cornerback - Desperate. I need another starter and a nickel back at a minimum. Guard - How did I go from five starters to essentially one in a year? I really need a new Day One starter here. Offensive tackle - I've invested 1 1st round and two 2nd round picks in LTs the past two years, and I think I might have one of them starting at RT in the NFL. Free safety - I keep investing low-round picks and it's not working. Moderate priority Kicker - Santos worries me a bit Outside linebacker - I've had some luck getting bodies on the field, but need a star. Inside linebacker - Given my other needs, I'll hope that DJ comes back Defensive end - If Devito comes back, I'm fine, but I could always use one more guy in the rotation Tight end - I need depth unless a star becomes magically available Low priority Nose tackle - If I get a DE I can move Star Lotulelei back here. Wide receiver - I'm pretty good here. No superstars, but solid Fullback - I think I'll just go with an extra TE or WR most of the time. Quarterback - Maybe a backup Center - Maybe some depth No need Strong safety - I'm good here unless I want some depth. Halfback - I'm strong and deep Punter - Colquitt. Enough said. |
Last year the draft pool didn't match my needs at all, but this year is looking really promising. My areas of need appear to have a lot of depth for the most part, as long as my #1 guy falls into place.
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My team looks like crap. How the hell do I not have Jeff Allen or Ron Parker? O-line manages to be worse than the real Chiefs. Need to put some effort into the draft this year and see if it can be turned around.
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I'm screwed at QB. Both top guys will be gone by 18 I'm gonna have to get creative or take a chance on someone early.
Rest of my team is good question rain man do I get to keep Crabtree or does he go FA |
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Somewhere along the line we talked about this, and I make a reference in Post 445. We decided that for now we would NOT lose a free agent unless they were a Chief, but we'll monitor the impact of that. I think in the long run if we're getting free agents coming to the Chiefs and we're not losing free agents, it may give us an unfair advantage over the real NFL. But then again we also have some disadvantages, so it might balance out. Our rules at the current time are: 1. If a Chief leaves as a free agent and he's on our roster, we lose him. 2. If a Chief gets cut and he's on our roster, we can choose to keep him. 3. If the Chiefs make a trade and everyone they give up (picks and players) is on our roster, we can choose to accept or regret the trade. 4. If a player on our roster leaves his team in any way, it doesn't matter. Per Rule 2, I think we can choose to keep or release Dwayne Bowe, which seems a little unfair since we'll also get to sign Maclin, but whatever. We'll monitor. Per Rule 3, I think the only trade on the books right now is the 5th round choice for Grubbs at guard, so we can choose to accept or reject that trade. Bottom line: according to the current rules, you can keep Crabtree. But we may adjust that in the future by consensus. |
Can anyone find a list of free agent gains and losses so far? Gains will include guys signed in mid-season last year. I see the gains as:
WR Jeremy Maclin G Paul Fanaika SS Tyvon Branch WR Jason Avant LB Jojo Dickson T Curtis Feigt CB Jamell Fleming DB Aaron Hester LS Jorgen Hus WR Corbin Louks DB Deji Olatoye QB Terrelle Pryor G Jarron Pughsley WR Da'rick Rogers TE Adam Schilz T Derek Sherrod WR Fred Williams LS James Winchester DT Jerel Worthy DT Vaughn Martin CB Shaquille Richardson You can also elect to trade away your 5th round choice to obtain Ben Grubbs Losses: Rodney Hudson, C (signed with Oakland) Jeffrey Linkenbach, OL (signed with Miami) Kevin Vickerson, DL (signed with the New York Jets) Kurt Coleman, S (signed with Carolina) Thomas Gafford, LS (signed with Chicago) Joe Mays, LB (signed with New York Jets) Anyone else? What do we think about Dwayne Bowe? Technically he was cut, but it was really a contract deal. Do we keep him or should we in good faith lose him? Also, if any of these guys are on your roster, you should have kicked them off. (I just found this list of last year's free agent losses.) Dexter McCluster, RB/WR (signed with Tennessee) Branden Albert, OT (signed with Miami) Geoff Schwartz, OT (signed with New York Giants) Jon Asamoah, G (signed with Atlanta) Tyson Jackson, DE (signed with Atlanta) Jerrell Powe, DL (signed with Houston) Akeem Jordan, LB (signed with Washington) Quintin Demps, KR/S (signed with New York Giants) Kendrick Lewis, FS (signed with Houston) |
My current roster:
QB Russell Wilson (Seahawks) Geno Smith (Jets) Terrelle Pryor Tyler Bray HB Jamaal Charles C.J. Spiller. (Bills) Denard Robinson (Jaguars) FB/H-Back Trey Millard, FB (49ers). WR Jeremy Maclin Dwayne Bowe Kendall Wright (Titans) Donte Moncrief (Colts). Albert Wilson Donnie Avery Frankie Hammond Corbin Louks Da'rick Rogers Fred Williams Jason Avant TE Travis Kelce (Chiefs) Anthony Fasano Adam Schilz OT Menelik Watson (Raiders) Morgan Moses, OT (Redskins) Ryan Harris, RT Cyrus Kouandjio, OT (Bills) Derek Sherrod Curtis Feigt G Alex Boone (49ers) Ben Grubbs (I'm definitely taking that 5th-round trade) Mike McGlynn, G David Yankey, G (Vikings) Jarron Pughsley Paul Fanaika C (None) K Cairo Santos, K P Dustin Colquitt LS James Winchester Jorgen Hus FS Jordan Poyer (Eagles) Kelcie McCray, FS Ed Reynolds, FS (Eagles) SS Reshad Jones (Dolphins) Tyvon Branch Baccari Rambo (Redskins) CB Sean Smith Alphonso Dennard (Patriots) Jamell Fleming Chris Owens Shaquille Richardson Aaron Hester Deji Olatoye OLB Tamba Hali AJ Klein (Panthers) Josh Martin, OLB Dekoda Watson (Buccaneers) Trevor Reilly, OLB (Jets). Ronald Powell, OLB (Saints) Jojo Dickson ILB Rey Maualuga (Bengals) Derrick Johnson Josh Mauga, ILB Zach Brown (Titans) DE Star Lotulelei (Panthers) Mike DeVito Ropati Pitoitua Vance Walker Jonathan Massaquoi (Falcons) NT Brandon Williams (Ravens) Alex Carrington (Bills) Daniel McCullers, NT (Steelers) Jerel Worthy Vaughn Martin Free Agent Losses Rodney Hudson (Chiefs) Jeffrey Linkenbach, G Kendrick Lewis (Maybe I should've lost him last year? |
Okay, my needs are:
#1 center #1 left tackle #2 cornerback #1 free safety #1 outside linebacker #2 3-4 defensive end #2 right tackle #2 tight end #3 guard #3 quarterback Time to start looking through the draft. |
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