Why not? He's played the game. Coached offense and defense in college. Been in player development/front office on a couple of NFL teams. He has 3 Super Bowl rings.

Just what the hell do you want to see our your new GM's resume?

what's your source guy say on the latest chiefs news?

Browns may have to pick between Mangini, Pioli


The Cleveland Browns' strong interest in fired New York Jets coach Eric Mangini could impact their search for a front-office executive, a league source with knowledge of the situation told the Cleveland Plain Dealer Thursday.

The Browns interviewed Mangini on Tuesday night and were impressed with him. They interviewed New England Patriots Vice President Scott Pioli on Wednesday and liked him, too.

But it's unknown if the two would be willing to work together after the Spygate scandal, so for the Browns, it might come to this: Do they hire the coach they love or the general manager they love?

If the Browns hire Mangini, knowing there is evidence that the coach is the biggest indicator of a franchise's success, he'd probably already have his own right-hand personnel man in mind. If they hire Pioli, he'd undoubtedly be given the authority to hire his own coach.

One thing is certain: The Browns want their coach and GM in complete synch this time, so they'd let each man choose his partner. Pioli and Mangini were once close, but it is unknown exactly where they stand after the yearlong controversy over the Patriots' taping of the Jets' defensive signals.

Pioli left his meeting with the Browns still intent on going through with his scheduled interview with the Kansas City Chiefs. A source told The Plain Dealer on Thursday that the two sides parted ways with no timeframe for a decision from Pioli. The source said a report in the Boston Herald that the Browns gave him a deadline of Thursday was untrue.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/p...urn=nfl,131893


Sorry if repost.

courant.com/services/newspaper/printedition/sports/hc-pioli0102.artjan02,0,5500627.story

Courant.com
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Browns, Chiefs Pursuing Pioli
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January 2, 2009

CLEVELAND —

As the Browns' courtship with Scott Pioli continues, one of his closest football friends said it would be foolish for anyone to speculate about the executive's plans.

Pioli, who has spent nine years helping the Patriots become a powerhouse, met with Browns owner Randy Lerner on Wednesday in New York to discuss Cleveland's vacancy at general manager. It is not known whether Lerner offered Pioli the job.

Contradictory reports surfaced Thursday regarding Pioli's interest in the Browns, who went 4-12 and have lost at least 10 games in five of the past six seasons. Pioli, 43, might also interview with the Chiefs, whose search appears centered on Pioli, a Central Connecticut graduate.

One of the many names linked to Pioli of late is Iowa coach and former UConn linebacker Kirk Ferentz, who worked with Pioli in Cleveland in the 1990s. Ferentz warned of guessing Pioli's next move.

"I think it's presumptuous to think anybody knows what he's doing right now," Ferentz said Thursday after the Hawkeyes beat South Carolina in the Outback Bowl.

Lerner also plans to meet with Falcons president Rich McKay about the GM position.

On the Browns' coaching front, Lerner interviewed Giants defensive coordinator Steve Spagnuolo on Thursday. The Browns have interviewed fired Jets coach Eric Mangini and will meet with Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz and Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels today. McDaniels, 32, grew up in Canton, Ohio. The Broncos also have asked for permission to speak with McDaniels.

According to a Boston Herald report, if Pioli is hired by the Browns, Ferentz would be his choice as coach.

"He and I haven't talked in three weeks," said Ferentz, the Browns' offensive line coach in 1993-95. "We've both been doing our jobs."

Copyright © 2009, The Hartford Courant

Some better drafts.

Nothing. Clark is keeping this close to the vest.

So now NE can't draft?

Who's your pick?

They aren't the best drafting organization. What difference does it make who my pick is?

Tom Brady makes up for quite a lot.

ROFLROFLROFL

Damn! That made me shoot coffee out my nose.

Yeah because the 4-3 has worked sooooo well for the current talent on the Chiefs defense.

And Pioli is on the record saying, at the time, he didn't think Brady was worth the pick.

Even more evidence convincing me Pioli won't go to Cleveland. How is that job better than his current one if the owner won't let him pick the coach? Pioli's going to be in NE or KC.


Though Cleveland has interviewed general managers and head coaching candidates, the Browns have told people around the league that it is most critical to get the head coaching hire right and they could wind up hiring a head coach first.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2009/01/03/mcda...-in-cleveland/

Wow.

If true, Cleveland is really ****ing themselves.

Randy Lerner is a colossal moron.

I think it all comes down to money now. How much is Clark willing to shell out?

Just saw on ESPNNEWS that Mangini is the leading candidate for the Browns' job...basically the rumor is that they'll either hire him or Pioli but not both.

Mary Kay Cabot from the Cleveland Plain Dealer was on and said that they're waiting to see what Pioli does and if he turns them down, they'll hire Mangini.

This is potentially great news for us.

Here's the thing:

Even IF Pioli turns down Cleveland, (or they turn down him) I just don't see Clark hiring him without interviewing anyone else on his list.

I agree with you.

If Cleveland's not going to happen for Pioli then there's no competition for him. The Chiefs can take their time and review all their options before entrusting all their faith in one man like they did for years with Carl Peterson. Pioli would likely fire everybody - Kuharich, Farmer, Cook, etc. Some of these guys have worked for the Chiefs for more than a decade. Clark might look around and see if there's someone he thinks is just as talented and can fit in with the rest of the organizational structure before making that leap.

So if Clark and Pioli met today or whenever, Clark makes him an offer, Pioli says he'll take it...you really think Clark would tell him that he's going to interview other candidates first?

Wow.

I think Clark is going to put the full court press on Pioli and do all it takes to get him signed and if he can't, move on after that.

He wouldn't make the offer if he's intent on interviewing other candidates.

Take a step back.

We're saying that Clark isn't going to make an offer to Pioli without interviewing others on his list.

And who the hell offers someone a job at the end of an interview?

It was posted here earlier that one of the hang-ups in Cleveland was that Pioli wants total control both football and admin. If that is true it may not be a deal breaker for Pioli, but it will be for Clark. He has said publicly that they are two separate positions in KC.

The Seahawks offered him the job a couple years ago without interviewing him. :)

ESPN is reporting that Mangini is indeed the top choice for HC of Browns which makes it likely that the pro personel guy from Baltimore is now leading candidate for GM job (sorry, can't remember his name).

I honestly don't think Pioli is the right guy for the Chiefs. I really don't like the idea of having McDaniels for Ferentz as HC. Honestly even though college HC's never make a successful jump, I would rather have Ferentz. Thats how bad I think McDaniles will be. Pioli would likely want to run a 3-4 defense here, because thats what hes used to getting players for. I would love to run a 3-4, but I don't think the Chiefs should make the switch right now...

Pioli could want Mangini has his HC as well... I mean hes also from the Patriots.

I'm just saying, this is ESPN's exact words. How the guy from Baltimore is in the mix, I don't know.

After Mangini hypocritically ratted the Patriots out I'm surprised he's considered for a HC job anywhere by anybody.

This.

The rumor has been that Pioli doesn't want to work with Mangini...that's why it's kinda been one or the other for the Browns.

I want no part of McDaniels, but am very comfortable with Ferentz. Pioli is a smart man who has worked with both and understands the profile for a good HC is not a smart coordinator but a legitimate leader. Ferentz fits that much better than McDaniels. But I still like Spagnuolo best of all because of the huge endorsement he gets unanimously from every player that has ever worked with him.

Report: McDaniels wowed the Browns
 

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...=137141&spln=1

According to NFL.com's Adam Schefter, Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels "wowed" the Browns during his three-plus interview for the team's head-coaching job Friday.

Schefter hints that McDaniels might have passed Eric Mangini on the team's wish list and could spur Cleveland to be the first team to hire a coach. Schefter also says McDaniels won't necessarily come in a package with Pats VP of Player Personnel Scott Pioli. The Browns may hire a coach before a GM.

Jan. 3 - 2:48 pm et

Sources: Mangini had 'compelling' interview

By Chris Mortensen
ESPN.com
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Updated: January 3, 2009, 4:55 PM ET
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Eric Mangini, fired Monday by the New York Jets, is emerging as the favorite to become the next head coach of the Cleveland Browns, team and league sources said Saturday.

The Browns have continued their search process, interviewing other candidates, but sources say Mangini had a "compelling" interview and owner Randy Lerner is fascinated with him.

If Mangini gets the job to replace the fired Romeo Crennel, the sources said the favorite to become the team's general manager would be George Kokinis, who is the director of pro personnel for the Baltimore Ravens.

Kokinis and Mangini each were members of the Browns organization when Bill Belichick was coach. Mangini formally joined the staff as an assistant coach in 1995. Kokinis was a scout from 1991 to 1995 before moving with the team to Baltimore.

Scott Pioli, the Patriots' executive vice president of player personnel, has been considered the favorite for the GM job, but sources say his demands were "extreme," and Lerner is hesitant to accept the terms unless there is some level of compromise.

Pioli is scheduled to interview with the Kansas City Chiefs no later than Monday.

If Pioli is hired, the leading head coaching candidates are believed to be Iowa coach Kirk Ferentz and Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, who also has interviewed with Lerner. McDaniels has not been ruled out after an impressive interview Friday, one team source said.

As the list of names indicate, Lerner keeps reaching for the Belichick tree -- from Pioli, to Ferentz (who worked with Pioli in Cleveland), to Mangini, to Kokinis, to McDaniels.

Even though Kokinis would be the leading GM candidate with Mangini as coach, current Browns director of player personnel T.J. McCreight also is in the running.

Lerner's firing of former GM Phil Savage had little or nothing to do with Savage's personnel decisions; Lerner specifically said the dismissal stemmed from a difference in "management style."

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESP

ROFL

Cleveland fans will have a ****ing cow if Mangini is hired.

It would be a hilarious meltdown on all of Browns' message boards.

http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/600

Pioli reportedly to interview soon
New England personnel executive Scott Pioli reportedly is scheduled to interview with Chiefs owner Clark Hunt sometime soon -- possibly as soon as today.

Several media outlets reported this weekend that Pioli would meet with Hunt no later than Monday -- and might have met with him Saturday -- to discuss the Chiefs' vacant general manager job. Pioli interviewed last week with Cleveland for the Browns' vacant GM position, and he is believed to be Hunt's leading candidate to replace Carl Peterson as Kansas City's top football executive.

The Chiefs are keeping quiet on the GM search; Hunt has authorized only himself to discuss the search. Sources close to the search have been reluctant to disclose any information, in part because other jobs within the organization could be in danger -- and Chiefs insiders don't want to step any closer to the firing line.

Former Kansas City coach Marty Schottenheimer told The Star last week that he had discussions with Hunt but said those conversations were "not a job interview of any kind."

The 43-year-old Pioli seems to match what Hunt is seeking for Carl Peterson's replacement as GM. Pioli is young and competitive, and he has a history of winning, having been a part of building three Super Bowl champions in New England.

But other reports suggest Pioli will leave New England only if he is offered total control of an organization. Hunt has said he will split the president and GM roles that Peterson held for 20 years, and he has given no indication he'll consider amending that plan to attract even a top candidate. ESPN reported Saturday that Pioli's demands with Cleveland were "extreme" and that they might disqualify him from the Browns' consideration.

League sources said last week that Hunt has no set timetable for hiring a GM, preferring instead to find the right fit than settle for an impulse hire.

Read a detailed piece on Hunt's hiring strategy, and how his choice could affect the Chiefs for years, in Sunday's edition of The Star.

Submitted by Kent Babb on January 3, 2009 - 4:42pm.
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I would think it all depends on how high Pioli is on the list. There's no indication of who Clark's preference is, but if Pioli is far and away his #1 guy, I wouldn't expect Clark to risk losing him because he still wants to talk to candidates who are a distant third, fourth, fifth, etc. Especially if he and Pioli have a good interview.

So is WPI still close to breaking something on this story? ROFL

For the record, Athan claimed that Hunt and Pioli met yesterday, and that Pioli was made an offer that he was expected to decide on last night. Coincidentally, though, when reports came out that Hunt and Pioli werent meeting until Saturday at the earliest, and maybe not even until Monday, Athan suddenly backed off saying that Pioli would decide on Friday night.

Now to show you the gall of this fraud, he is now acting like, well, Hunt and Pioli met on Friday or they will meet today. Either way. Its all good.

Yeah, he was just lying to his paying customers and leading them on for 24 hours, but no big deal.

Someone told me that they heard on am610 that the Chiefs have a press conference scheduled for Monday, the said it could be the announcement of our new GM or the firing of Herm Edwards.

There was speculaiton in this thread as to what the press conference is for. Everything from naming rights of Arrowhead, new GM, Herm fired, etc.

No one really knows - but the Eroneous One is probably spouting off about it to the $109.95 (thanks for the clarification Claythan) premium viewers.

So it's true that there is going to be a press conference, but we just dont know why.

Yes, it's scheduled for Tuesday. It probably has something to do with Papa Johns pizza.

With all this going on, why isn't Hunt getting a Polian/DeCosta/Colbert/etc interview out of the way?

There is a little thing called the playoffs going on right now.

How many time must this be said?

:banghead: SH*T, I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

LOL.

Pioli, Browns talking, but he may stay put
by Mary Kay Cabot
Saturday January 03, 2009, 9:27 PM

The Browns are continuing their dialogue with Patriots vice president Scott Pioli, but Pioli is still weighing his options, which include staying in New England, a source close to the negotiations told The Plain Dealer.

Pioli is also expected to go through with his interview with the Kansas City Chiefs sometime over the next couple of days. If Pioli takes himself out of the running, the Browns will focus their attention on fired Jets coach Eric Mangini, a source said.

Atlanta President Rich McKay can also get back in the mix now that the Falcons are out of the playoffs following their wildcard loss to the Cardinals on Saturday. McKay postponed his interview with the Browns on Thursday so he could focus on the game, and will thoroughly research the situation before deciding whether or not to formally interview with Browns owner Randy Lerner, a source said.

Two other head coaching candidates -- fired Broncos coach Mike Shanahan and Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz -- are on the backburner for now. Shanahan was contacted by the Browns, but told them he will be on vacation with his family for the next two weeks and will not be interviewed during that time, a source said. If the Browns haven't hired a coach by then, they might still reach out to him. Their scheduled interview with Schwartz on Saturday was canceled because of a scheduling conflict. He also was scheduled to interview with the Lions Saturday. If the Browns don't interview him by today, they must wait until the Titans are eliminated from the playoffs, or until the week before the Super Bowl to talk to him.

As reported Friday in the Plain Dealer, the Browns were weighing the pros and cons of their top two candidates -- Pioli and Mangini -- knowing they'd probably have to make a choice between the two. Their research showed that landing the right coach was more imperative than finding the right general manager, a source said.

Pioli will require the authority to hire his own head coach, and reportedly favors either Iowa head coach Kirk Ferentz or Patriots offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels, whom the Browns were impressed with in his interview Friday. Lerner, who has said he would be "apprehensive" about hiring a college coach, would have to be sold on Ferentz. Likewise, it probably wouldn't be a deal-breaker for Pioli if the Browns didn't want to go the college route.

A source close to Pioli said he headed into the Browns interview with serious reservations about the job. Multiple league sources have pointed to the fact the Browns have squandered many draft picks over the past few years -- including the third, fifth and seventh in 2009. The team is headed for salary cap trouble after giving huge signing bonuses to free agents over the past several years, and the contracts of a number of players are up after 2009.

One league source noted that the roster is in bad shape after the reign of fired general manager Phil Savage, and that only one current defensive player -- Shaun Rogers -- would be good enough to start for the Ravens or Steelers. Another said that neither linebacker Beau Bell nor Martin Rucker, two players the Browns traded up to select in the 2008, will be able to cut it in the NFL.

Mangini, who's been the front-runner among coaching candidates since he interviewed Tuesday night, told the Browns that he had his own general manager in mind, a source said. That person is believed to his close friend George Kokinis, the Ravens' director of pro personnel. The Browns feel that Mangini and Kokinis could be similar to the Bill Belichick/Pioli tandem that has produced three Super Bowl victories in New England, the source said.

-- Plain Dealer reporter Tony Grossi contributed to this report

Report: Pioli scheduled to sit with Chiefs on Monday
Posted by Karen Guregian at 11:52 pm

According to the Cleveland Plain Dealer, Pats VP of player personnel Scott Pioli is scheduled to be interviewed by the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday for their vacant GM post. According to their sources, however, that interview may be pushed up to Saturday - at Pioli’s request - so he can come to a decision between the Browns and Chiefs.

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/patriots/

That obviosly didn't happen... my guess is that he wanted to use it to put pressure on CLE to pick him of Mangini. Definately seems like an either/or deal.

You know, jAZ is the only poster from CP i've met in person. I ran into you at Rusty's one Sunday, back before I got D-TV.

uhhh it's this coming Monday. Or yesterday.

If Cleveland goes with Mangini, they deserve what they get.

Never? Jimmy Johnson.

wow, an impressive number. one out of, how many?

There's a rumor on the Cleveland Scout board that Parcells is pushing Pioli towards K.C. so he can have the Browns' GM spot for himself and he feels that K.C. is a better fit for Pioli, supposedly Parcells is in tight with Mangini.

I know Clark wants somone for the long term but my wish is:

1.The Dolphins lose today.

2.Wayne Huizenga sells the team (this is already in place to happen)

3.Bill Parcells resigns his position (which is in his contract to allow after Wayne leaves)

4.Parcells comes to KC.

Why? If there is anyone that can bring a winning attitude to the locker room it's Bill. The Chiefs have a lot of young talent that is hungry and capable, they are close. They just need to be coached up and someone to lead the way.

Herm is NOT the answer

Mr. Parcells is. I know he wouldn't be HC but he can still change the atmosphere and get the people in place.

Nobody will probably agree with me, but I have always been a huge fan of Parcells and this would be a dream come true of mine.

Did you see the interview with the Miami players saying they weren't allowed to get hurt or go into the training room?
Thats hard ass.

I want a long-term fix for this position. Pioli, being related to Parcells, would likely lean on him a lot.

That would be nice then :D

Pioli with Parcells as confident. would be a win/win deal.

Didn't WPI say that the whole Pioli saga would be ending soon like 4 days ago? What gives?

I'm still waiting for Al Saunders to be named the HC of the Detroit Lions.

I was told it would happen in the next 48 hours, but that was several years ago.

Not happenin'.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolph...ga-bill-p.html

Wayne Huizenga may have left Dolphin Stadium as majority owner of the Dolphins for the last time this afternoon, but before exiting he revealed some news Miami fans will likely welcome.

Huizenga said Bill Parcells is coming back next year.

"Bill is going to stay," Huizenga said. "He told me the day before yesterday he was going to stay."

I also spoke with incoming owner Stephen Ross who indicated he expects Parcells to stay.

No.

SI.com: Pioli excited about the opportunity in KC
 

Yes I realize this should probably go in the merged Pioli thread...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...dgments/1.html


Reading the latest tea leaves, that puts Pioli in the Chiefs' wheelhouse. League sources tell me Pioli seems excited about the opportunity in Kansas City, which he's believed to be interviewing for Monday. Pioli still has to do his due diligence and thoroughly research the Cheifs' roster, but he's said to be high on some of the building blocks that Kansas City has in place (like offensive left tackle Branden Albert, and cornerbacks Brandon Flowers and Brandon Carr).

The Chiefs are also in an enviable salary-cap situation, with at least $30 million of room to maneuver, and I don't think it hurts one bit that Pioli's wife was born and still has family in the Wichita, Kan., area. From a lifestyle perspective, Kansas City might be a better fit for Pioli than even Cleveland.

He can move along if he is dead set on bringing Kirk Ferentz in as head coach.

I want Spags from the Giants.

Not excited about Dorsey?

Or Thigpen

This is encouraging....thanks for the link

no way would he come to a team that does not have jared allen.

I am so excited.
Im going to go rub fuzzy things right now!
Anyone know wifes fam?

****. How could I miss the obvious?

I'm sure he's a big proponent of the pistol.

maybe he was thinking of McGraw

Mangino for HC

You think they listed every player he's excited about?

I can't believe after people clamoring for this guy for about 3-4 years, many thinking it was a pipe dream, myself included... it's now a legitimate possibility the Chiefs will hire the guy once considered the best up and coming GM in the game, and most have soured on him because he might hire Kirk Ferentz as coach.

The Vikings didn't read that screen at all did they?

not again

If I'm Pioli I would be excited too...... why not?