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Titty Meat 01-16-2025 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17908508)
I honestly don't care much at all about 'pairing' Pacheco with anyone at this point.

I want a new, better RB1.

If Pacheco can forge a role as an RB2 in short-yardage situations, neat - so much the better. But he's not been any better than Hunt this season and in a lot of ways worse.

I'm not looking to supplement the RB room - I'm looking to upgrade on it.

The way that guy runs he won't last long in the league and I think we're already seeing signs of the wear and tear.

DJ's left nut 01-16-2025 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 17912681)
The way that guy runs he won't last long in the league and I think we're already seeing signs of the wear and tear.

Pacheco?

Yeah - again, I'm not at all worried about longevity with Pop.

I'm worried about ability. He just doesn't have enough of it. He's a guy who's going to get what's blocked...maybe.

I want someone that can get that and then make a guy miss to start racking up those Yards over Expected.

Pacheco doesn't do that. On a good run, he hits the seam, explodes through it and then smashes into the first guy that gets in front of him. It takes too much going right for him to even get a 20 yarder. But when you watch someone like Gibbs, if he gets through the first level, all hell can break loose.

I'd be fine moving Pacheco to a straight up backup role next season. I wouldn't even be super eager to have him as a short yardage back because he's not particularly good at that.

We're carrying 4 backs right now, right? I'd be fine doing that again next year with Henderson, Pacheco, Hunt and a 3rd down back. I don't need a FB and to whatever extent one might be necessary, just use Hunt as an up back. He's a willing and capable blocker.

I'm just running out of use for Pacheco at this point. He's...fine. That's it. I'm not sure I even prefer him to what Damien Williams brought to the table in 2019.

O.city 01-16-2025 10:12 AM

I don't think he's fine. I'd be looking to upgrade.

DJ's left nut 01-16-2025 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17912694)
I don't think he's fine. I'd be looking to upgrade.

Well we won 2 Super Bowls with him so I think he's pretty much exactly 'fine'.

But yes, we should be looking to upgrade.

Singleton going back to Penn State is a kick in the dick, though. He wasn't the guy I preferred, but he was the guy that could end up pushing Henderson into our range in the 2nd.

I think that's a bit of a pipe dream at this point. You have Jeanty and Hampton that probably go before Henderson but I don't see Henderson going after Johnson or James. And I don't see the 3rd RB off the board lasting to 64.

That said, if we really don't want to take Henderson in the 1st, I'd be looking at Dylan Sampson in the 2nd. He's more of a Gibbs type in that he's a little slight but on the plus side, lik Gibbs, he can be a real pain in the ass as a pass catcher.

If you aren't going to just bury Pacheco, Pacheco/Sampson as a Thunder/Lighting duo could really work out nicely.

It's a fine alternative. And I do expect Sampson will be available at the back of the 2nd.

RunKC 01-16-2025 10:50 AM

RJ Harvey looks like what we were wanting to get from Clyde. 5’9 208 lbs. way better vision than Clyde as well as speed/agility. Might be worth a look in the 3rd rd

DJ's left nut 01-16-2025 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17912764)
RJ Harvey looks like what we were wanting to get from Clyde. 5’9 208 lbs. way better vision than Clyde as well as speed/agility. Might be worth a look in the 3rd rd

I think guys like Harvey are why I find myself inching towards RB in the 1st or 2nd this year.

The rest just feel like more of the same to me.

There's a TON of depth at RB in this draft, but it feels like it's more that there's a lot of fungible talent rather than premier players.

I mean there are probably a dozen guys like Devin Neal in this draft.

And at that point I just kinda throw my hands up and say "ah **** it - just take someone in the 7th again I guess..."

It feels like a good time to be aggressive at the position and there might just be the right piece there for us. But when you're looking at Neals and Harveys and Etiennes and (yuck) trying to talk yourself into Skattebo -- eh, that's no fun. I'm just not feelin' it.

If we don't want to try to snag a great back, I guess we can just keep cycling through mediocre ones.

RunKC 01-16-2025 11:25 AM

Yeah I’m with ya DJ. This is not a good year to need a WR. Thankfully we have addressed that the last 2 years. FA market is terrible and so is the draft if you don’t pick high enough to get McMillan, Burder or Egbuka.

Fully on the RB train. It will drastically help us for the Kelce transition as well

staylor26 01-16-2025 02:12 PM

I REALLY like the idea of Judkins in our offense.

Couch-Potato 01-16-2025 03:31 PM

Just started looking into DL Derrick Harmon after watching a mock on youtube.

6-5, 310 lbs, run defender that busted out as an interior pass rush guy this season: 5 sacks, 43 pressures, 17.6% pass rush win rate from the interior!!!

2nd best pass rush rating for a IDL in this draft after another guy that only played passing downs, could be available in the 2nd.

Wharton replacement!?

Couch-Potato 01-16-2025 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17912764)
RJ Harvey looks like what we were wanting to get from Clyde. 5’9 208 lbs. way better vision than Clyde as well as speed/agility. Might be worth a look in the 3rd rd

Agree that he fits what I believe the Chiefs look for in a RB!

Tribal Warfare 01-16-2025 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17913182)
Agree that he fits what I believe the Chiefs look for in a RB!

IMO, It's more like Kareem considering that he take punishment with extraordinary contact balance and still be elite like the 2017 -2018 seasons

Titty Meat 01-16-2025 10:51 PM

I think Edwards or Neal would be alot of fun in this offense. Those aren't #1 backs but as Andy has proven you don't necessarily need that

ntexascardfan 01-18-2025 11:55 AM

Matthew Golden if we are looking for another mid round wide receiver.

Fly paper hands and a knack for getting open.


kccrow 01-18-2025 02:43 PM

Added
OL Jordan Williams, Georgia Tech
DE Princely Umanmielen, Ole Miss
LT Charles Grant, William & Mary

Titty Meat 01-18-2025 03:32 PM

Yeah Princely would be awesome


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