Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17757026)

Does it?

I feel like it's on the verge of finding an identity and playing to that identity quite well. But that's a 25-30 rush/gm, short/intermediate passing team.

A RBBC that is effective but not explosive with a play-action passing game that is going to take a couple deep shots/gm while using some WR motion on reverses, etc... to find some space in the middle of the field for the TEs.

Honestly, I think the offense we saw on Sunday is about what we'll see going forward and what may make/break any given game (offensively) is just hitting that deep shot.

I mean I could EASILY see a scenario where Mahomes doesn't hit 4K yards passing this season but we end up with 1,500+ yards from Pacheco/Hunt.

And that's not a bad offense, but it's an offense that probably settles in the 16-21 ppg range and if they hit 27+ it's going to be off a big special teams play, a short field created by a turnover or they hit that shot play. And there WILL be games that happens.

But there was a lot that went right schematically yesterday and we put up 325 total yards. That's...not exactly 'breaking out'. It's...okay.

I think this is roughly where we're gonna live for a bit. And it's fine but it's gonna be a bit of a throwback offense.

And with our bye being so early and injuries now starting to ding some depth on the defense, we're asking a lot of them to keep this up.

Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 17756390)

What's the best case scenario for a fractured ankle?

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17757057)

That's possible.

But if you can hit said deep shot or two and you can get some secondary WR to play up a bit (JJSS stays healthy, Hardman, traded WR) I think you're in a good spot with the TE's coming on.

I really like what they've got at RB if Hunt can keep it together, Pacheco comes back and Perine on 3rd down.

But in the end......until the QB un****s himself a bit we're just kissing our cousin.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17757082)

I think that's awfully easy to say...if you're the Jets.

It wasn't hard to say when we had Rice and Worthy. Hell, it was doable with JuJu and Worthy.

But man, this is JuJu. I said it when we signed him. The issue isn't even availability, it's how LONG he'll be available and that even when he's on the field, he's always one play from being gone or limited for 3-4 weeks. You can NEVER count on him. Ever.

This receiver room is Worthy and scraps. I like Hardman and he is STILL, almost by definition, scraps.

At a point you've gone beyond his ability to make chicken salad. And man, we're at that point. And god help us if Worthy goes down as well.

We cannot continue to operate like this. We have to add someone or we're going to be playing Marty-Ball with Hunt/Pacheco.

And virtually every single one of us is going to acknowledge how that works in the post-season. History says...poorly.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17757099)

Oh, it sadly, hinges on adding someone and probably JJSS getting healthy.

It's not ideal. But when you take a stick of dynamite to a single position group, you get this.

I hope they don't think they can roll into January this way.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17757119)

Again, don't disagree.

But at some point....you kinda gotta cut bait right? I mean, sometimes it's just not your year.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17757144)

If we're picking over that dead carcass give me Hubbard too.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17757134)

Over a 3rd rounder when you're chasing a 3-peat!?!?!?!

**** no.

It's a 3rd rounder, man. It has value, but it's not gonna make or break the next half-decade of Chiefs football.

A 1st wouldn't do that. As has been noted, we got barely backup RB caliber contributions from MEH as a 1st rounder and won 2 SBs anyway. We'd have been no worse with LaMichael Perine taking those snaps last season.

He's as fungible as fungible gets.

Arden Key will have made $7 million over the last 2 seasons to be MUCH better than FAU has been over that span. At a point, the roster spot is as valuable as the player when you're talking about the fairly middling returns that some of these guys will provide.

For 2 first rounders we could've called our shot on trades over the last several seasons and backfilled the MEH/FAU picks with...whatever. It wouldn't have been hard.

And yes, sometimes those picks are GK and McDuffie, which is why I'm not eager to give up a 1st. But a 3rd? Hell, a 2nd? You're going to pull the chute on the season rather than surrender that?

Naw, man. Hell no.