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Originally Posted by BWillie
(Post 17086173)
Why do people think Toney is significantly better than any other WR on the roster? He's hurt all the time for one and also he has struggled to perform any better than anyone else. I get he's a shiny new toy and he has viscous cutbacks but that doesn't mean he's the best WR on the team.
If we compare him to Richie James with the NYG to the Toney NYG we see the following:
James 70 targets, 569 yards, 4 TDs, 33.5 yards a game
Toney 60 targets, 420 yards, 0 TDs, 35 yards a game. Even with the Chiefs...7 games, 171 yards
James seems to be a better player at this point because he's more reliable and his advanced stats on getting 3rd downs are much better.
Skyy has been in the offense longer and has shown he can get good separation.
Rice is running back type YAC skills, younger and seemed productive in the preseason.
MVS is a deep threat and maybe not a well rounded WR but we know what he is and he's shown he can make big plays in big games.
Justyn Ross pops off the screen. Plus he's taller and a legitimate goalline threat.
There is an argument that Toney will be WR6 ahead of Justin Watson by the time the season is all said and done.
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Not sure why you're using tgts/recs, but whatever.
If we go by his availability, sure he's had injury issues, and that has dimmed his value as a WR.
However, as to why I think he's the best WR in the room, well that's easy.
He can consistently beat DB1s.
He's gone 1v1 with Trevon Diggs (NYG), and won, off the LoS, with Diggs going full press, multiple times. ditto Anthony Brown (ranked top-10 in 2021). He smoked Justin Simmons (ranked 10th among all S in 2022).
And so on.
he obviously has the best releases of any of our WRs, beats the jam consistently against the best DBs in the league, gets YAC when there isn't any room, he's very hard to tackle, and maybe most importantly:
DBs fear him.
And then as a gadget guy, no one else on the team looks as much like Hardman on jet sweeps or screens.
So, my contention, is that when healthy, Toney is the most complete WR in the room, the most versatile, and the most dangerous. He's the guy that DCs are going to plan for, the guy that they're going to ask, "where is 19?" before every snap, the guy that can change field position, even the course of a game.
Now, you're not going to believe me, of course, so here's a little visual evidence:
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Toney hasn't been asked to do a lot of just line up and go, yet, so most of these are gadget type plays, but there's a few traditional routes in here:
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