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kccrow 03-14-2023 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16855423)
So... how bout Mazi Smith in the 1st?

He's not been talked about much, fits a need, got in a little trouble so he'll be there likely at the bottom of #1 but prob not the bottom of #2. What do you guys think of him playing next to CJ?

I'm not a big DT in the 1st type of guy unless he's a phenomenal talent and Mazi Smith is NOT a phenomenal player. I'd lean edge.

My shortlist at 31 at the edge is:

1. Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
2. Derick Hall, Auburn
3. Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State

As much as I like Keion White, I think he and Karlafatis are both best suited as LDEs. I want a bit more juice opposite George.

Couch-Potato 03-14-2023 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16855460)
I'm not a big DT in the 1st type of guy unless he's a phenomenal talent and Mazi Smith is NOT a phenomenal player. I'd lean edge.

My shortlist at 31 at the edge is:

1. Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
2. Derick Hall, Auburn
3. Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State

As much as I like Keion White, I think he and Karlafatis are both best suited as LDEs. I want a bit more juice opposite George.

Are there any vets you'd prefer at DE that we could get with that 1st?

kccrow 03-14-2023 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16855521)
Are there any vets you'd prefer at DE that we could get with that 1st?

I don't really think so.

Look at your options:

Josh Allen, JAX
Rashan Gary, GB
Brian Burns, CAR
Montez Sweat, WAS
DJ Wonnum, MIN


I don't know who else to really put on the list... Burns is a star in the making, obviously, but with that comes a huge contract so no. I would take my chances on a rookie over Allen and Gary. Sweat and Wonnum are the most likely targets I'd have but man... I hate paying a 1st then paying a guy. Not sure if I'd pay a 1 for Wonnum for sure but I do like him alot. If I did it, it'd be for Sweat.

kccrow 03-14-2023 07:53 PM

Piggy-backing off what I just said, I'd most love to send Washington a 2nd this year and 1st in 2024 for Sweat. Kind of the flip-flop of the trade we had for Clark.

Chris Meck 03-14-2023 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16855460)
I'm not a big DT in the 1st type of guy unless he's a phenomenal talent and Mazi Smith is NOT a phenomenal player. I'd lean edge.

My shortlist at 31 at the edge is:

1. Isaiah Foskey, Notre Dame
2. Derick Hall, Auburn
3. Felix Anudike-Uzomah, Kansas State

As much as I like Keion White, I think he and Karlafatis are both best suited as LDEs. I want a bit more juice opposite George.

I agree with your top 3 there completely. And I'd still add Andre Carter, as more of a second rounder type.

GloucesterChief 03-14-2023 08:17 PM

So with the D line currently looking like:

DE: Karlaftis, Omenihu, Danna, Kaindoh, Herring
DT: Jones, Wharton, Omenihu (sometimes)

I am thinking DE is less a priority now then DT.

Couch-Potato 03-14-2023 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 16855688)
So with the D line currently looking like:

DE: Karlaftis, Omenihu, Danna, Kaindoh, Herring
DT: Jones, Wharton, Omenihu (sometimes)

I am thinking DE is less a priority now then DT.

Came here to ask the same basically.

Is Omenihu our new starter at DE then? or is he a rotational guy? Doesn't seem like the fast-bendy guy many fans are hoping for opposite of George, am I wrong? Unclear.

kccrow 03-14-2023 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16855727)
Came here to ask the same basically.

Is Omenihu our new starter at DE then? or is he a rotational guy? Doesn't seem like the fast-bendy guy many fans are hoping for opposite of George, am I wrong? Unclear.

He's getting paid to be, IMO. At the very least he's going to be heavily used in the rotation, both inside and out.

I really, really like that signing.

If they can get Gaines I'd do jumping jacks. I'm too fat to do them but I'd figure it out.

I'd like to see Agholor or Campbell at WR to be honest. These big names are overdoing it IMO.

Couch-Potato 03-14-2023 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16855754)
He's getting paid to be, IMO. At the very least he's going to be heavily used in the rotation, both inside and out.

I really, really like that signing.

If they can get Gaines I'd do jumping jacks. I'm too fat to do them but I'd figure it out.

I'd like to see Agholor or Campbell at WR to be honest. These big names are overdoing it IMO.

Someone in the other thread suggested he'd start at DE and move inside on passing downs, and that we're prob still looking for a fast pass rushing specialist at DE in the draft. I think that feels about right to me.

I like the signings so far, wish we hadn't struck out on Tunsil, we're signing guys at quality contracts, younger ascending players, and we prob have room for another high caliber addition or two.

staylor26 03-14-2023 10:08 PM

Omenihu plays early downs at DE, then slides inside and Will McDonald comes in on passing downs. Then we wreck shit.

Chris Meck 03-14-2023 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16855754)

I'd like to see Agholor or Campbell at WR to be honest. These big names are overdoing it IMO.

Careful. They'll pile on you for that.

LMAO

JPH83 03-15-2023 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16855869)
Omenihu plays early downs at DE, then slides inside and Will McDonald comes in on passing downs. Then we wreck shit.

Would be pretty hyped for this scenario

Couch-Potato 03-15-2023 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16855596)
I don't really think so.

Look at your options:

Josh Allen, JAX
Rashan Gary, GB
Brian Burns, CAR
Montez Sweat, WAS
DJ Wonnum, MIN


I don't know who else to really put on the list... Burns is a star in the making, obviously, but with that comes a huge contract so no. I would take my chances on a rookie over Allen and Gary. Sweat and Wonnum are the most likely targets I'd have but man... I hate paying a 1st then paying a guy. Not sure if I'd pay a 1 for Wonnum for sure but I do like him alot. If I did it, it'd be for Sweat.

A move for Burns would be awesome, I'm game! Adding another star caliber player to our DL with CJ would give teams fits!

Couch-Potato 03-15-2023 04:30 AM

Why not Clowney? CP never seems to have any interest in him, but kid has potential if we can manage his ego. Not very expensive either, could play Ingram's role.

JPH83 03-15-2023 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16855955)
Why not Clowney? CP never seems to have any interest in him, but kid has potential if we can manage his ego. Not very expensive either, could play Ingram's role.

It'll be interesting to see his value. What did he get last year? $10m? Year older, leaving with a bit of bad blood. Gotta think he's getting max $8-9m? But honestly I might just see what Ingram wants. He's probably even cheaper, and I think he has more as a pass rusher


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