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Rukdafaidas 01-27-2023 06:34 AM
I'm glad we signed Marcus Kemp. Plug him in and move on.

007 01-27-2023 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 16766179)
Kick the ball through the endzone, no need to worry about returns.

****ing this. I don't know why we keep kicking it short. Makes me wonder if BUTKER still isn't quite right.

chiefzilla1501 01-27-2023 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16766233)
Toub has a point, I said this in the Lammons thread. The guy played the most snaps of anyone in all 4 phases. If they did this just to activate that turd CEH, it doesn’t make much sense and wasn’t a good idea.

The unit may not have been up to par this year, but I don’t see how cutting it’s best player right before the AFC championship was going to help.
They didn’t cut him. They waived him with the intent to put him on the practice squad and in all likelihood to elevate him again. It probably opened up a roster spot for fortson which is totally worth it.

digger 01-27-2023 06:53 AM
It's going to be a long 2 days...

Easy 6 01-27-2023 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16766243)
They didn’t cut him. They waived him with the intent to put him on the practice squad and in all likelihood to elevate him again. It probably opened up a roster spot for fortson which is totally worth it.
I'll trade Lammons for Fortson eight days a week

PAChiefsGuy 01-27-2023 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16766243)
They didn’t cut him. They waived him with the intent to put him on the practice squad and in all likelihood to elevate him again. It probably opened up a roster spot for fortson which is totally worth it.
Oh please. They cut him.

This move seems very strange this late in the season. Doesn't make much sense in my opinion.

ChiTown 01-27-2023 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 16766242)
****ing this. I don't know why we keep kicking it short. Makes me wonder if BUTKER still isn't quite right.
He isn’t, but he should still be jacking it through the EZ.

Chief Roundup 01-27-2023 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16765935)
He told the media basically that Veach ****ed up cutting Lammons cause he was in the game plan. Basically complaining to the media about it..while having a god awful year.
:facepalm: STFU idiot he did not say that at all.

chiefzilla1501 01-27-2023 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 16766257)
Oh please. They cut him.

This move seems very strange this late in the season. Doesn't make much sense in my opinion.
It’s not that strange. We’ve got a lot of players coming back from injury.

Easy 6 01-27-2023 07:48 AM
Maybe some 5D chess at play, where they filled Lammons head full of shit knowing Cincy would snatch him up?

Wisconsin_Chief 01-27-2023 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy (Post 16766257)
Oh please. They cut him.

This move seems very strange this late in the season. Doesn't make much sense in my opinion.
Yeah, they assumed he was going to slip through waivers, I get it. However, the Bengals play dirty both on and off the field. Hope the Chiefs realize they are going to have to do the same.

The guy has been a 4 phase special teamer for several years now. He's the best we had. To lose him right now is not good, especially if it was to activate CEH or Fortson, who both play positions we are loaded at.

I'll feel better if it's Fortson, if they did this to activate CEH, man it's going to be annoying, especially if there is some sort of ST miscue in the game.

tredadda 01-27-2023 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16766233)
Toub has a point, I said this in the Lammons thread. The guy played the most snaps of anyone in all 4 phases. If they did this just to activate that turd CEH, it doesn’t make much sense and wasn’t a good idea.

The unit may not have been up to par this year, but I don’t see how cutting it’s best player right before the AFC championship was going to help.
Pretty sure Veach didn’t cut him in a bubble. Pretty sure he discussed with Andy who they could afford to lose.

chiefzilla1501 01-27-2023 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 16766281)
Yeah, they assumed he was going to slip through waivers, I get it. However, the Bengals play dirty both on and off the field. Hope the Chiefs realize they are going to have to do the same.

The guy has been a 4 phase special teamer for several years now. He's the best we had. To lose him right now is not good, especially if it was to activate CEH or Fortson, who both play positions we are loaded at.

I'll feel better if it's Fortson, if they did this to activate CEH, man it's going to be annoying, especially if there is some sort of ST miscue in the game.
I actually like kemp better on ST. So it kind of works out for us. The chiefs knew they had to get rid of somebody early in the week. Which is better than later.

Wisconsin_Chief 01-27-2023 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16766303)
Pretty sure Veach didn’t cut him in a bubble. Pretty sure he discussed with Andy who they could afford to lose.
I'm sure, but I think they were planning on him slipping through waivers and then they would be able to sign him to the PS and elevate him for the game.

Having CEH or Fortson on the field for 8 total snaps is probably not more valuable than Lammons at this point, for this particular game. Not trying to make it a bigger deal than it is, but the unit was already struggling. Cutting it's best player seems like a bad plan. We'll see, hopefully we don't see any issues.

dirk digler 01-27-2023 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 16766004)
Maybe I missed it but does anyone have the quote? I didn't realize this was a thing. I'm not sure it actually is.

I thought Toub said that "Veach had a plan" and it didn't work out. Presumably to get him on the practice squad? Toub said Veach is a smart guy and always has a plan but this was just how it goes sometimes. Felt bad for Lammons since he can't play anymore this year. I didn't hear him criticize anyone in the press conference.
That was my takeaway as well. I took it more that he was disappointed for Lammons not being able to play the final 2 games


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