Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 16505763)

OBJ you have no argument from me there. I am wondering if he even is worth being tagged next year.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16505743)

It’s pretty nice to have a game with 41 points against a good defense where it feels like the KC offense still did not reach full potential, whether it’s the dropped passes or Mahomes’ bad decision on the interception. Plenty of room for improvement.

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16505577)

I was going to start another thread, but what the hell since everyone is getting pissy about overreactions, I'll throw it in here instead - Karlaftis is disappointing.

Yes, it's too early to come to any conclusion, but after a really good preseason, I was kind of hoping he'd find his way to the QB a little more often. I know he had a nice TFL last night, but his pass rush has been on a Frank Clark level the last 3 weeks.

I know its only PFF and we like them when they give us good grades and are a complete crap organization with QB grades and bad grades, but they have him at a lowly 49.7.

Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 16505874)

I'm sort of glad someone else has said it. I'm not disappointed in the slightest, he's a rookie and playing with some dross on the other side. BUT, people hyped him far too much from preseason, including me.

As with all the rookies we'll have a better idea by rhe end of the year. Some will be great, some will need time, some won't make it, and some of this you only really know years down the line So far it's pretty promising

Originally Posted by JudasRising20 (Post 16505099)

He's a decent RT. Certainly for a projected backup he's above average at the position. Better than anyone expected. He'll be tested though against Maxx Crosby. We'll see how that goes.

I still think Wylie should have started at RT during that Super Bowl disaster. Moving him to LT only made things worse.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16505884)

Nobody ever gets sacks game in and game out. It's rare even for the best.

Sacks usually come in bunches. Karlaftis could easily have only 4 or 5 games where he gets a sack and still get 8-10.

The amount of pressure he's getting is encouraging. He'll eventually get some sacks.

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 16505214)

I'll have to go back to look to verify myself, but I was certain it went through one set of hands and then hit MVS right in the bread basket. It was an unfortunate drop, one I bet MVS wishes he had back as well.

The second drop even Andy was visibly upset. Which is a rarity. He better learn from it. The whole thing was weird. Kelce was upset. Mahomes had to pull him off the field. Who knows what was going on there.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16505768)

Considering the tag next year would net a 20% increase in guaranteed money ON TOP of the top 5 salary he's already making this year, I would say the answer is "no".

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 16505981)

Do you have his numbers from the last two weeks? Pressures and hits?

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 16506005)

I wasn't sure what was going on with Kelce there, and I was worried about it. The camera seemed to show Mahomes yelling at Kelce, and then Kelce walked off the field like he was at a funeral. I want Mahomes and Kelce to be happy.

And yeah, you never see Andy Reid react like that. It was a shocker. I also want Andy Reid to be happy.

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 16506008)

We'll just have to see where the year plays out. Maybe he wants to come back on an even cheaper bet on yourself contract.

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 16506008)

I haven't looked at the left tackle market to see what is available next year. So I don't know for sure if there is any viable replacement in FA or any OT that could be drafted and play LT day 1.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16506014)

I just don't think there's any way we can go from him wanting to be the highest paid LT in football to him getting a team-friendly middling contract. I don't think he'll do it.



Given the presumptive price tag, I'm not sure it matters who his replacement is. You could get similar "adequate" play out of a decent free agent who makes HALF as much. And then you could draft a developmental player as your long-term solution.

I mean, even if OBJ plays like he did yesterday for the rest of the year, he's good but he's not THAT good. Not $20-25M per good.

Originally Posted by DTHOF (Post 16505924)

They went to college together and Wylie has shut out Crosby at least three times that I can remember.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16505884)

Nobody ever gets sacks game in and game out. It's rare even for the best.

Sacks usually come in bunches. Karlaftis could easily have only 4 or 5 games where he gets a sack and still get 8-10.

The amount of pressure he's getting is encouraging. He'll eventually get some sacks.