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The Franchise 04-06-2021 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15617143)
We're in a bad spot in that the positions we need to fill are pretty tough to fill at the spots we're picking.

LT, DE and QB are high round positions normally. So you're gonna have to wheel and deal or develop someone not as highly rated.

I think we can get a DE in the 3rd or 4th round and be okay.

LT is just going to depend on what they do. I’d be just fine with taking Cosmi and signing Okung to start out the year.

htismaqe 04-06-2021 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15617117)
Is the difference between Darrisaw and the guys available at 31 (Eichenberg, Leatherwood, Cosmi, Radunz - whoever it may be) worth giving all of that up? I don't know these college players so I'm just curious.

No, I don't believe it is. That's my issue with it.

xbarretx 04-06-2021 10:01 AM

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staylor26 04-06-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15617143)
We're in a bad spot in that the positions we need to fill are pretty tough to fill at the spots we're picking.

LT, DE and QB are high round positions normally. So you're gonna have to wheel and deal or develop someone not as highly rated.

This class has depth at LT and DE.

So no, I don’t think we’re in that much of a “tough spot”.

Direckshun 04-06-2021 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15617117)
Is the difference between Darrisaw and the guys available at 31 (Eichenberg, Leatherwood, Cosmi, Radunz - whoever it may be) worth giving all of that up? I don't know these college players so I'm just curious.

He's far better than those guys, with an All Pro ceiling.

Let's not forget, we are not in a vacuum here. We have the league's best QB to protect.

Veach was willing to sell Arrowhead Stadium to land Trent Williams.

We'll see if he feels the same way in the Draft.

The Franchise 04-06-2021 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 15617176)
He's far better than those guys, with an All Pro ceiling.

Let's not forget, we are not in a vacuum here. We have the league's best QB to protect.

Veach was willing to sell Arrowhead Stadium to land Trent Williams.

We'll see if he feels the same way in the Draft.

And the Virginia Tech offense that he came from doesn’t worry you?

RunKC 04-06-2021 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15617143)
We're in a bad spot in that the positions we need to fill are pretty tough to fill at the spots we're picking.

LT, DE and QB are high round positions normally. So you're gonna have to wheel and deal or develop someone not as highly rated.

If we pass on tackles in the first 50 picks then I’ll worry bc you’re looking at the projects who have no business starting at LT this year and Okung will get hurt.

They need to get back to Ingram after the draft and try to get him for a fair deal

Buns 04-06-2021 10:36 AM

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Pitt Gorilla 04-06-2021 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 15617117)
Is the difference between Darrisaw and the guys available at 31 (Eichenberg, Leatherwood, Cosmi, Radunz - whoever it may be) worth giving all of that up? I don't know these college players so I'm just curious.

I doubt it.

O.city 04-06-2021 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15617171)
This class has depth at LT and DE.

So no, I don’t think we’re in that much of a “tough spot”.

Yeah there's for sure depth. But depth doesn't always mean "elite". If you're looking for an elite DE or elite LT, usually, you're gonna have to spend a pretty hefty pick for that guy. Not always.

The more I read about this class, I'm just not sure about the LT depth. There very well could be, but I'm not sure once you get past the top 3 or 4 that it doesn't thin out.

With how they run the DL rotations here, I'm more optimistic on getting a DE who can play well there. But with the way Andy leaves the T's on islands, I'm not sure you can go with the guys available in the later picks like we may have to and be ok for a while.

staylor26 04-06-2021 10:56 AM

My #1 dark horse is probably Leatherwood.

I think the Chiefs are going to love the measurables.

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The 2020 Outland Trophy Winner measured in at 6-foot-5, 312 pounds. He posted a 85 3/8-inch wingspan (98th percentile) and a 34.5-inch vertical leap (98th percentile). He ran a 4.96 40-yard dash (94th percentage) and posted a 9-foot, 10-inch broad jump (99th percentile).

O.city 04-06-2021 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 15617146)
I think we can get a DE in the 3rd or 4th round and be okay.

LT is just going to depend on what they do. I’d be just fine with taking Cosmi and signing Okung to start out the year.

I don't really want anything to do with Okung. He's just too injury prone for me. If you're taking one at 31, put him next to Thuney, give him some help blocking wise for a while and bring him along slowly. Don't just put him on the island and make him sink or swim.

O.city 04-06-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 15617213)
My #1 dark horse is probably Leatherwood.

I think the Chiefs are going to love the measurables.

I'm just not sure...what position do you play him at? LT?

staylor26 04-06-2021 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15617211)
Yeah there's for sure depth. But depth doesn't always mean "elite". If you're looking for an elite DE or elite LT, usually, you're gonna have to spend a pretty hefty pick for that guy. Not always.

The more I read about this class, I'm just not sure about the LT depth. There very well could be, but I'm not sure once you get past the top 3 or 4 that it doesn't thin out.

With how they run the DL rotations here, I'm more optimistic on getting a DE who can play well there. But with the way Andy leaves the T's on islands, I'm not sure you can go with the guys available in the later picks like we may have to and be ok for a while.

Well yea when I say depth that doesn’t mean you can get a LT on day 3.

But you can get guys like Forsythe, Little, Brown, Ball etc. on day 2.

Also, I don’t think we need “elite”. We just need good players at those positions.

staylor26 04-06-2021 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 15617220)
I'm just not sure...what position do you play him at? LT?

Yea. He’s one of the only fringe round 1 guys that have the measurables that they typically look for at T.

I mean he’s a rare specimen physically. Just look at this:

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The 2020 Outland Trophy Winner measured in at 6-foot-5, 312 pounds. He posted a 85 3/8-inch wingspan (98th percentile) and a 34.5-inch vertical leap (98th percentile). He ran a 4.96 40-yard dash (94th percentage) and posted a 9-foot, 10-inch broad jump (99th percentile).


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