Comparing Jones to Houston is stupid for the simple fact if you compare post season productivity it's not even close. The Houston deal wasn't even a bad one til he had his leg snapped in half, people forget how good that 2015 became.

The only reason you trade Jones is if you can't make the math work. A defensive front of Clark, Nnadi, Jones and perhaps you get a talented defensive end at the end of round 1 you have a defense that's just as good as the 49ers and we're not even mentioning that you have the best offense in the league, with the best QB in the league and a hall of fame coach.

I'm personally obsessed with surrounding Mahomes with weapons EARLY in his career and watching that core wreck the league but that's just me. That 2000-2010 Colts squad had HOFers in QB (Manning), RB (James), WRs (Harrison, possibly Wayne) a great TE (Clark) and one of the best centers of his era (Saturday). I was at the no punt game front and center that offense was fricken unreal.

Trade Jones for a 1st and a 2nd who knows maybe we draft Mahomes' Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne in Jeudy, Lamb, Ruggs III and his Edgerrin James in Swift, Dobbins, Taylor.

Jones of course may very well go on to have a HOF career and the draft picks we got for him may very well be busts. Just my opinion but you pair first round skill players with Mahomes they're not gonna be busts. James, Harrison, Wayne, Clark all first round picks for Manning.

Do you want to diversify your risk or does Veach think Jones is an all pro caliber player for the next 5-6 years? Time will tell. Good situation to be in.

You don’t trade guys like Reggie White, Michael Stephan and Chris Jones. Especially when the player wants to play his whole career in KC and has consistently said as much.

The guy is a unicorn.

It's a tough decision. On one hand the guy is a great player and you don't want to lose someone like him. You also would like to reward players who were drafted by the Chiefs and earned their big contract.

On the other hand Chiefs better do their homework because some guys lose their fire after they get paid. How competitive is Chris Jones? Plus, Chiefs have to make sure they create a good dline not a dline w Chris Jones, Frank Clark and a bunch of bums. Chiefs dline has good depth they need to keep it that way.

Hopefully Veach makes the right decision.

CJ would probably get 4/100 in FA.

That's the ideal situation for sure. I want him to stay and hopefully he does if all the numbers work out okay for both sides.

Chris Jones should be one of the center pieces of this team going forward. Chiefs just have to make sure he is the ultracompetitive type and that he won't take it easy after he gets paid. Whatever he gets it is going to be a lot. so better make sure he is worth it. Only so much money to go around.

I kinda wish they would just get a deal done with Patrick right away and maybe he will get a Chief friendly contract that would show how serious he is about winning championships and therefor lead by example and the rest of the players take a discount because they will be on Mahomes team.



Who the **** would be stupid to go else where when Patrick Mahomes II gives his team the best chance to win multiple Super Bowls?

Not only does Patrick Mahomes II give his team best chance to win Super Bowls but he demoralizes the defensive players against him. So going else where would be dumb for Chris Jones or any FA not to want to come to Kansas City on the cheap because even if your NFC and you will lose in the Super Bowl against Kansas City Chiefs.

So do we have any cap rollover money from last season that still can be applied to our cap number? Or has that already been factored in?

Right now Over the Cap has us at about 13.7 million.

OK, Megatard, it appears literacy is among your many weak mental aspects.

You see, Megadouche, the Berry and Houston deals are not irrelevant. They are a perfect, shining example of why you dont dump a ton of money on one guy. Those who dont know history, are dooned to repeat it. The Chiefs have been burned twice, and I find it extremely hilarious you say Berry was irrelevant, because were the Chiefs not still eating dead money, we arent in as piss poor a position to retain our players that we are now.

While yes, Megazord, you could cherry pick the guys who got stupid money and produced decent results on one hand, (assuming you can count, thats a big ****in leap of faith but hey..) there are far more instances of complacency and injury on these huge deals than homeruns. Dwayne Bowe wants to know if you need anything from Sonic, btw.

As I said before, Megaturd, Patrick Mahomes, the best player on the God damn planet, is the ONLY guy worthy of any contract number. The guy has the ability to affect the outcome of any given game by himself, and more importantly, is irreplaceable. Even he knows that in order to build the team, he probably has to take less than hes really worth.



Your ridiculous little comment about trade Kelce hes 30, doesnt hold water. Kelce isn't looking to be the leagues top paid receiver.

Hill, big swing and a miss there too. Everyone with a functioning braincell knows Hills deal has been structured so that we do not get burned, due to his off field soap opera that was taking place.

In the end, Megatranny, if Jones is more interested in breaking the bank than winning super bowls, he needs to do that elsewhere and we utilize the picks and cash to deepen the roster with talent across the board.

The ship kind sailed when no deal was done with Jones, and we gave Frank Clark his money. To your point, Clark did produce. But only after a period where CP got up in arms about how much he sucked. Getting a Lombardi softens the blow of his deal, so even if he flames out going forward due to injuries or what have you, people will still reflect on that one good postseason run that helped us win a title and say it was worth every penny.

They are probably right, but it still doesnt change the fact that his deal affects the Jones deal, and affects the overall team.

Hopefully Megadork, that clarifies some things for you.

Anybody claiming that Jones wants to be the highest paid player in the game when he has yet to say that anywhere....is talking out their ass.

That to go with Trubisky over Mahomes?

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The Bears also got a second rounder back in the deal

A 1st + 2nd would be a no brainer. Jones is a great player, but not so great that he can make up for a talent vacuum in several other spot at his expense (financially).

2 x 1's + 2 x 2's also helps you set up for 2 years from now talent and cap wise.

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