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sully1983 06-07-2019 05:35 PM

This just looks so ****ing bad imo. And the reviews have been flat out brutal . Hard Pass.

Oh well , at least Wolverine got a proper send off with Logan (damn I loved that film).

Bowser 06-07-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 14299265)
So you believe Marvel movies need to be about sagas then? I don't necessarily agree.


So Storm and Rogue don't have any iconic storylines? That's disappointing. But maybe you don't need iconic. You just need faithful adaptations to the characters.

Lol, whatever. Sure, Storm and Rogue have great stories, but this shit is better. Deal with it.

Setsuna 06-07-2019 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14299330)
Lol, whatever. Sure, Storm and Rogue have great stories, but this shit is better. Deal with it.

Have the movies told the story well? If not, why bother? Move on to something safer. I'm just being practical.

WhiteWhale 06-08-2019 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 14299265)
So you believe Marvel movies need to be about sagas then? I don't necessarily agree.

I didn't say that, so obviously there's no reason for you to assume it. Actually nothing I said even vaguely insinuates that. Where did you get that from?


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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 14299265)
So Storm and Rogue don't have any iconic storylines? That's disappointing. But maybe you don't need iconic. You just need faithful adaptations to the characters.

The failure to adapt the characters properly is the primary thing I'm complaining about.

Storm and Rogue in particular were totally botched in the film universe.

WhiteWhale 06-08-2019 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 14299684)
Have the movies told the story well? If not, why bother? Move on to something safer. I'm just being practical.

The movies haven't told any story well. Nor have they adapted the characters accurately. Rogue, Iceman, Kitty Pryde, Storm, Cyclops... they've utterly botched all of them. Shit, we can't even GET a decent Gambit. WTF?

That's the far bigger problem.

You can't grow a healthy tree from poison soil.

WhiteWhale 06-08-2019 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14298856)
****ing preach, my man. Agreed 101%.



that's enough preaching for today

The person in charge of the MCU has said the X-men name is 'problematic'.

The MCU is ****ed. The woke one dimensional stereotype characters are coming.

ThaVirus 06-08-2019 10:51 AM

I'll give them a bit of credit. Overall the movies have been garbage, but they did a decent job telling their version Days of Future Past story and the Weapon X/setting up Phoenix in X2. Plus, they did a great job on Wolverine, Prof X, Magneto and Nightcrawler.

Jamie 06-08-2019 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 14300061)
The person in charge of the MCU has said the X-men name is 'problematic'.

The MCU is ****ed. The woke one dimensional stereotype characters are coming.

One, it was Victoria Alonso, who is a producer for Marvel, but isn't Kevin Feige, who is in charge of the MCU. She's sort of a lieutenant. Two, she called it outdated, not "problematic". Now you may continue your political fear-mongering.

Chiefspants 06-08-2019 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 14300078)
I'll give them a bit of credit. Overall the movies have been garbage, but they did a decent job telling their version Days of Future Past story and the Weapon X/setting up Phoenix in X2. Plus, they did a great job on Wolverine, Prof X, Magneto and Nightcrawler.

They even screwed up Days of Future Past because Vaughn wanted that to be the end of a trilogy rather than the 2nd movie. It was a great movie on its own but they really couldn't keep that momentum going after. It's also why Vaughn left the franchise.

Setsuna 06-08-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 14300054)
The movies haven't told any story well. Nor have they adapted the characters accurately. Rogue, Iceman, Kitty Pryde, Storm, Cyclops... they've utterly botched all of them. Shit, we can't even GET a decent Gambit. WTF?

That's the far bigger problem.

You can't grow a healthy tree from poison soil.

Right. Right. So now that X-Men are in Disney's hands I think they need to abandon Dark Phoenix storyline.

Direckshun 06-08-2019 12:59 PM

Are there any good fight scenes in this one?

Bowser 06-08-2019 01:02 PM

Well, I went to an early showing of this, but the IMAX theater was broken and they cancelled the show after we all sat there for 45 minutes. I guess I can take this as a sign?

kysirsoze 06-08-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14300165)
Well, I went to an early showing of this, but the IMAX theater was broken and they cancelled the show after we all sat there for 45 minutes. I guess I can take this as a sign?

All of the entertainment value in less than half the time! A bargain!

Bowser 06-08-2019 03:32 PM

You might end up being very correct. :D

As compensation, everyone in the theater received two free passes to any movie, IMAX, Prime, 3D, whatever. So I've got that going for me.

Gravedigger 06-08-2019 06:32 PM

It wasn’t the worst ever, the biggest problem is there’s no humor in the film... at all. All the humor in the film comes from three lines and are all delivered by the same character. It’s just kind of a downer of a film. There cool parts that are worth watching, but it was just a lazy effort. Cyclops isn’t a push over in the film which is a nice change of pace from every X-men movie made thus far, and I’m actually a fan of the actors that play Storm and Nightcrawler. It was alright, go to a matinee for cheap tickets or wait for rent.


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