Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13359415)

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13358985)

The Chiefs aren't stupid.

An unbiased, objective viewpoint of the situation says:

1. The Chiefs won games for four years because their defense was remarkably good at preventing the opponent from scoring while forcing turnovers.

2. The Chiefs allowed 18.3 PPG over their last 8 games.

3. The Chiefs defense was a HUGE catalyst in getting this team into the playoffs.

4. Allowing 22 points in a playoff game is not a fireable offense.

Bob will be back.

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13359430)

It's all meaningless when they can't perform in the playoffs

I hold them to the same standards I hold Alex Smith.

Originally Posted by Priest31kc (Post 13359284)

Yep.

I wanted a change from Bob, just start fresh with a whole new era on both sides, but it should be clear now that Sutton is staying.

I think Reid is giving Sutton one more year to prove he can get this D back on track. If he can, he'll be back again, if not, Reid will hopefully make the change next year.

Probably want to give him some new talent to work with as well as getting Berry back and see what he can do.

If they play like they did over the last 8 games, we will win alot of games next year.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13359447)

...why?

They are a mediocre defense that lacks talent.

Allowing 22 points was a miracle.

Holding the Steelers to all field goals was a commendable performance, too, that should have resulted in a W.

Ya'll trying to make this a 2003 Chiefs defense situation and it just isn't. Not even close.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13359447)

...why?

They are a mediocre defense that lacks talent.

Allowing 22 points was a miracle. And 10 of them came on a fluke play and a bad call.

Holding the Steelers to all field goals was a commendable performance, too, that should have resulted in a W.

Ya'll trying to make this a 2003 Chiefs defense situation and it just isn't. Not even close.

Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 13359455)

The Titans drove up and down the field in the first half. We got bailed out by drops and poor Tennessee route running. Second half was predictable assuming that Tennessee fix its miscues, which they did

The Steelers game was a joke . We were lucky to be close. Horrible play calling from Haley kept that game close. One punt?

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13359473)

You are trying to find reasons to blame a defense that got the team to 12-4 playing the same style of ball.

The offense failed in that game. Not the defense. Period.

This is all misguided anger because people are still mad about the Jets and Raiders games.

This defense is viewed a lot differently if the offense had held up it's end of the bargain in three games the D had presented on a silver platter for a W.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13359473)

You are trying to find reasons to blame a defense that got the team to 12-4 playing the same style of ball.

The offense failed in that game. Not the defense. Period.

This is all misguided anger because people are still mad about the Jets and Raiders games.

This defense is viewed a lot differently if the offense had held up it's end of the bargain in three games the D had presented on a silver platter for a W.

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13359473)

You are trying to find reasons to blame a defense that got the team to 12-4 playing the same style of ball.

The offense failed in that game. Not the defense. Period.

This is all misguided anger because people are still mad about the Jets and Raiders games.

This defense is viewed a lot differently if the offense had held up it's end of the bargain in three games the D had presented on a silver platter for a W.

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan (Post 13359546)

Both failed.

Why people need to make it black and white is beyond me.

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13357274)

We could break the internet like for change like Greg Robinson debacle and make his family so emotionally damaged they demand him to quit