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chiefzilla1501 01-11-2018 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Halea41 (Post 13355533)
I don’t think you guys understand what’s gonna happen with smith in Cleveland. He will be asked to make deep throws on a consistent basis, without Hill. He’ll be asked to make anticipation throws. He will be asked to throw receivers open, which is leading a covered receiver to a spot where he’ll be moderately open. He’ll be asked to make tight-window throws. Alex smith will be asked throw more in general, for four quarters. That’s because the browns are bad and dysfunctional. Smith does not have the ability.
Alex will go back to being a game manager. He will have a good Gregg Williams defense and if they draft Barkley could have an outstanding running game. I always thought a big strength of his is that he does make bad teams look average. His supporting cast in 2013 and 2014 weren't great. That's what the browns need. The things you're talking about are things that take a team from average to great. I agree, but thats not what the browns are looking for.

BryanBusby 01-11-2018 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Halea41 (Post 13355539)
Smih’s Interception will skyrocket when he’s asked to compensate for the 31st ranked defense in the league. No more screen passes and conservative attacks. He’ll be asked to sling it, especially in hue’s system.
He was already playing for a bottom range ranked D.

Halea41 01-11-2018 10:47 PM
We’ve seen Alex smith on a bad team, it’s called the 2004-2010 49ers.

BryanBusby 01-11-2018 10:49 PM
The Browns aren't that bad of a team. They mostly suffer from dog shit QB play.

The last time they had decent play, they went 10-6.

Halea41 01-11-2018 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13355542)
He was already playing for a bottom range ranked D.
Chiefs’ defense ranks 15, with 21 ppg. And defense’s stats are marred by three games: patriots, Texans and raiders. They were actually pretty good.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2018 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13355548)
The Browns aren't that bad of a team. They mostly suffer from dog shit QB play.

The last time they had decent play, they went 10-6.
At minimum especially with a ton of money in the offseason, I can't imagine the team being much worse than what we had in 2013 and 2014. Agreed. Browns aren't terrible. Excellent defensive coordinator, very good offensive line, some good weapons in the running and passing game. I don't see why they couldn't put up a 6-8 win season with Alex Smith as their qb, even if they make minimal changes.

Halea41 01-11-2018 10:54 PM
10 games, the chiefs’ defense gave up 20 points or less.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2018 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Halea41 (Post 13355556)
10 games, the chiefs’ defense gave up 20 points or less.
The browns don't need him to win the division or win 10 games. I don't want Smith on the Chiefs next year. Believe me, this is not a defense of Alex Smith. He is not as good as his apologists want him to be, and he's certainly not as bad as his critics want him to be. If the mark is to get the browns 6-8 games, which browns fans would do cartwheels over, he is more than capable of doing that. If I was the jags or the bills, would I be excited about him? I wouldn't be.

BryanBusby 01-11-2018 11:07 PM
The Browns D will improve a lot once they realize Peppers sucks dick as a Defender and convert him to Returner/RB.

Replace him with Fitzpatrick with the #4 pick, draft some better linebackers and suddenly they will be in business.

Peppers is one of the worst first round defenders I've seen on tape in awhile.

Easy 6 01-11-2018 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13355548)
The Browns aren't that bad of a team. They mostly suffer from dog shit QB play.

The last time they had decent play, they went 10-6.
This

The talent is already there to be better than they are, you need better coaching and a new field general... we're seriously rooting for you, Cleveland

Quit waiting for Montana, and embrace a solid winner while things unfold

Chiefs fans have been there, we're with you... patience

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-11-2018 11:22 PM
Bugsby is right...they could have been a 8 win team if Mariota was their QB. That defense needs a purpose to play. Plus, Josh Gordon didn't come back until the end of the season.

They have an absurd amount of money and draft picks to use these next couple of years. It's pretty much a General Manager's dream.

Veach vs. Dorsey -- If you give Smith to Dorsey and they miraculously win 9 games and tie or beat out the Chiefs in wins imagine how dumb that makes us look.

oaklandhater 01-11-2018 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13355598)
Bugsby is right...they could have been a 8 win team if Mariota was their QB. That defense needs a purpose to play. Plus, Josh Gordon didn't come back until the end of the season.

They have an absurd amount of money and draft picks to use these next couple of years. It's pretty much a General Manager's dream.

Veach vs. Dorsey -- If you give Smith to Dorsey and they miraculously win 9 games and tie or beat out the Chiefs in wins imagine how dumb that makes us look.
We could go 0-16 with mahomes and I would still love the trade.

Smith has proven he will never get it done over and over.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-11-2018 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13355541)
He will have a good Gregg Williams defense and if they draft Barkley could have an outstanding running game.
I don't understand this hiring by Dorsey tbh. He hasn't been able to do much these last few years after serving his punishment then being discarded with Jeff Fisher off the Rams

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-11-2018 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 13355601)
We could go 0-16 with mahomes and I would still love the trade.

Smith has proven he will never get it done over and over.
And Romo. And Stafford. And Cutler. And Dalton. List goes on.


Defense. Wins. Championships.

chiefzilla1501 01-11-2018 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TigeRRUppeRRcut (Post 13355604)
I don't understand this hiring by Dorsey tbh. He hasn't been able to do much these last few years after serving his punishment then being discarded with Jeff Fisher off the Rams
He wasn't hired by Dorsey. He built a good D in STL. They were held back by the usual Jeff fisher shitshow of an offense.


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