Yeah we agree here. After qb, we need a cb and safety if bowe and Albert stay.

We don't have a corner aside from Flowers either....... that was honestly one of the biggest setbacks this year, aside from standard Cassel play.ROFL

I do watch the NFL, I was all for going after Peyton Manning and drafting a project QB last year, was all for Drafting Mallet the year before, and we didn't, was happy to draft Stanzi in the fifth, and this brings me to another point that is extremely important here.

You want me to believe that we should draft a QB with the #1 pick in the draft, when we didn't even give our #3 QB an active roster spot in the last game of the year against a team we knew we'd get tossed around by, in the chance that we'd be down by 14-21 points and give him a drive to see if he can actually play in a live game and apparently reverse the "picture" we have of him currently?

You expect me to buy into the draft a QB with the #1 pick mantra, when the history of this team, this fandom, is afraid of QB's and the "curse"?

Do you really blame me? I'm not afraid of taking a chance on a lock like Luck, but there is no lock in this draft as of this very moment.

That being said, I am STILL all for getting a QB in the draft, and especially if Geno/Wilson/Bray end up posting good Combines and Pro Days.

I'm just not going to blatantly ignore the fact that we have two very big glaring holes on the defensive side of our game either.

Yes. But the gap for anything after QB is big. Drafting a LB before QB or CB is a complete joke.

It's fascinating to me that people get paid to write and haven't realized that with the new rookie pay scale a QB is going to go #1 overall 9.5 times out of 10...and that other 0.5 times is for when an Adrian Peterson or Calvin Johnson is in the draft (which isn't available this year).

Yes, the rookie pay scale is even friendlier to RB's since you don't have to give a McFadden $40M anymore...you can get a guy at #5 and pay $16M or something totally reasonable

BUT YES...$25M is A LOT for an ILB...it is Kyle Orton for QB's. A QB is going #1 in this draft no matter what.

anyone mocking anything else is an idiot...

Yeah I do blame you. I blame you for first starting the argument by saying you would be fine taking Teo and now trying to say its about what you think is going to happen, not what you want to happen. You said you are cool taking Teo if thats what KC thinks is best and I fully blame you for that.

As for what Stanzi did, are you kidding me? What does the handling of the QB position by Crennel and Pioli have to do with what the next group will do. Especially when Clark made mention of the QB position.

The ILB position is not nearly as big a hole as the QB and CB position. Hell, even if Albert and Bowe are kept, DL and Safety may be more important. You can fill ILB later in the draft. Happens all the time.

I am so sick and tired of the "lock" QB. Are you seriously going to wait for th next Luck to come around. Grow some balls and take a ****ing chance. This isn't the nuclear bomb. Failing with a QB doesn't **** you for 5 years anymore. Look at what we have done being afraid of taking a QB. How is not fixing the QB position less risky? Alex Smith, Glennon ect. Those aren't bigger risks? Sorry, I do blame you and everybody that thinks the way you do.

let's trade our #1 pick to Jason Whitlock for Jeff George

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Same.

Go watch a bunch of Geno tape, I think you can be converted.

Yes, ironically enough, he has. He's made plays on defense that have either ended games, given us the chance to win, or nailed the door shut on a turnover to seal the game. You did watch DJ play in 2010 right?

I think you mean Plain and simple, as there is no simple plan for winning a Super Bowl when your team has no QB, no depth at CB, and no depth on the offensive line.

I'm not saying we should take Te'o because he's the consensus best, I'm just pointing out that he's above and beyond the best at his position in this draft, and we don't have that same comparison at the QB position, so you can't say there is a guaranteed "lock" there for us, as this is the shittiest QB draft in a decade, yet the defensive side of the draft is STACKED to the brim.

I'm still 100% behind drafting a QB if there is one that is good enough for us that fits our system.
I'm not "trying" to say anything here. I've said it. There is no consensus best QB, but there is a consensus best ILB, and if no QB manages to separate himself from the pack, or improve his actual "prominence" as analysts see it, I'm not OPPOSED to drafting a guy like Te'o, and then going and getting Wilson or Bray in the 2nd round. No mistake about it, in the first 40 selections of this draft (adjusting for a possible trade here), we will have a QB there is no doubt about it. It is more about who and when we draft them.

Even if they all project to be 2-3rd round talents after the combine and some big name guy gets let go like Romo? I'm not for a Retread, but lets hypothesize for a bit. Say Geno slips to the second round but has the best overall mechanics, just needs a little time to get up to speed. Are you opposed to signing Romo, drafting Geno in the 2nd, and picking up Te'O or an LT with our first pick of the draft depending on what happens with Albert?
What is getting lost here is the importance of what we do with some of our players in the off season. As it stands right now, we don't draft a QB with our first pick if Albert is let go. That much is guaranteed.

We go LT with our first pick, and QB with our 2nd and I'll bet the world on that one.

I'd rather take a punter #1 overall than an ILB.

Wasting a #1 on a OT, DL, ILB...****ing STUPID.

Take a QB, take a WR, take a RB, take a stud ****ing rush backer...NOTHING else is worth it...and if Matty Quinsell is your god damn QB you take the best GD QB in the draft and pat yourself on the back.

We don't even know if we're going to be a 4-3 or 3-4 team next year yet.

does Teo run a 4.2 40? Can he rep 225 60 times? Does he have a 60" vertical and what will his Wonderlic be? 48?

If he's all those things...then I think I'd probably

draft Geno

The only way I'm fine with not using #1 on a QB is if there is a trade partner that keeps us in the top 10 and gives us another 2nd. Then we still get one of the top
3 QBs in all likely hood, could trade our 3rd for a Flynn or Cousins type guy and use the two seconds on CB, WR, or LB combo.

Of course, that would require a trade partner and I
Don't see
It happening for the talent that's up
In the top
This year

Some people got so worried about filling other holes. Look at SB winners. Most actually had some pretty big holes in places EXCEPT one. That includes the secondary, LB position, ect ect. Only one of those positions has not been a weak one.

I like Werner better than Teo

How often do "locks like Luck" come around? Once every decade or so. Your and idiot.

Let me break this down for you:
2012 Superbowl:
NE - QB - Tom Brady; ILB - Brandon Spikes/Jerod Mayo
NYG - QB - Eli Manning; ILB - Chase Blackburn

2011 Superbowl
PIT - QB - Ben Roethlisberger; ILB - James Farrior/Lawrence Timmons
GB - QB - Aaron Rodgers; ILB - Desmond Bishop/AJ Hawk

2010 Superbowl
NO - QB - Drew Brees; ILB - Jonathan Vilma
IND - QB - Peyton Manning; ILB - Gary Brackett

2009 Superbowl
PIT - QB - Ben Roethlisberger; ILB - Larry Foote, James Farrior
ARI - QB - Kurt Warner; ILB - Gerald Hayes

2008
NE - QB - Tom Brady; ILB - Tedy Bruschi/Junior Seau
NYG - QB - Eli Manning; ILB - Antonio Pierce




I wonder which correlates more to success?