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OnTheWarpath15 02-04-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cormac (Post 5459523)
Without reading all the posts, and in no particular order:

1) disbelief that this organisation can actually draft the right one
2) we have many holes to fill
3) we have an impatient fan-base that is at its wit's end, and most QBs take a year (or two or three) to develop. Many couldn't handle that.
4) Matt Ryan was in last year's draft
5) Todd Blackledge
6) We had THE WORST PASS RUSH IN NFL HISTORY in 2008. Don't we need a DE?
7) Is any of the QBs in this year's draft actually worthy of the 3rd overall pick?
8) Many early 1st round QBs are colossal busts (Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, David Klingler, Andre Ware, our very own Todd Blackledge etc.). Are we not safer picking a DE or other position of need?
9) Picking the wrong QB can really set the franchise back, more than a bad pick at other positions
10) Todd Blackledge
11) See #1

Personally I'm just looking forward to seeing who we pick, and what position. We have a new GM with a track record of success. I'm not going to second guess him until he proves he deserves it. Be it Sanchez, Stafford, Orakpo, whoever, let's hope we're beginning to return to being competitive.


Holy Jesus.

That reads like a True Fan Manifesto.

DaneMcCloud 02-04-2009 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 5459528)
What I got from his post was that Sanchez and Stafford weren't potential franchise QB material.

But then you read this, right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5459454)
Why do I believe Stafford and Sanchez are franchise guys. I will tell you why. I was not on the Stafford bandwagon at all to start the year. His sophomore year did not impress me at all. I wanted Bradford instead. It was after the 3rd game of the season against South Carolina, I made a vow to watch him and see if my opinion would change. It did. I watched every single stinking Georgia Bulldog game from then on out. He was impressive. He has the arm, the size, the leadership skills. Georgia was also very young up front and at receiver. Stafford led that team. It was his team. Yes Florida and Alabama beat them bad, but it was that Bama game where I really liked him. They were done and out and led a respectful comeback against the Tide. Stafford just reminds me of how Elway used to play.

Now to Sanchez, most of us thought he wouldnt come out but he was the one everybody had pegged for the top guy in 2010. I watched a ton of USC games mainly to look at their defense guys which is where that team was stacked not offense. I saw a guy who was the leader of that team. USC's line wasnt very good. He got nailed in the grill alot, but his biggest plays were when he was flushed from the pocket and made a strike. He has the arm, the swagger, the smarts you want from a franchise QB. Troy Aikman is who he reminds me of.


DaneMcCloud 02-04-2009 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5459530)
Holy Jesus.

That reads like a True Fan Manifesto.

Is that a picture of Nick Athan in your avy?

I've never had the pleasure of his visage.

OnTheWarpath15 02-04-2009 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5459533)
Is that a picture of Nick "Assclown" Athan in your avy?

I've never had the pleasure of his visage.

Why yes.

Yes it is.

Here's a better picture:

http://i44.tinypic.com/a59q50.jpg

chiefzilla1501 02-04-2009 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5459490)
They're called "No QB in round 1 unless he's a 'lock'" folks. But they're all for a QB in rounds 4-7.

Good luck finding that "lock."

That's a mis-statement.

Most people claim that they would have no problem taking Sanchez or Stafford if they are there at #3 and they are given a top 5 grade.

If Pioli gives him only a barely top 10 grade, then taking him at #3 is an enormous reach.

Few have said that a player must be a lock at QB to be a top 3 pick.

DeezNutz 02-04-2009 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cormac (Post 5459523)
Without reading all the posts, and in no particular order:

1) disbelief that this organisation can actually draft the right one
2) we have many holes to fill
3) we have an impatient fan-base that is at its wit's end, and most QBs take a year (or two or three) to develop. Many couldn't handle that.
4) Matt Ryan was in last year's draft
5) Todd Blackledge
6) We had THE WORST PASS RUSH IN NFL HISTORY in 2008. Don't we need a DE?
7) Is any of the QBs in this year's draft actually worthy of the 3rd overall pick?
8) Many early 1st round QBs are colossal busts (Tim Couch, Akili Smith, Ryan Leaf, Alex Smith, David Klingler, Andre Ware, our very own Todd Blackledge etc.). Are we not safer picking a DE or other position of need?
9) Picking the wrong QB can really set the franchise back, more than a bad pick at other positions
10) Todd Blackledge
11) See #1

Personally I'm just looking forward to seeing who we pick, and what position. We have a new GM with a track record of success. I'm not going to second guess him until he proves he deserves it. Be it Sanchez, Stafford, Orakpo, whoever, let's hope we're beginning to return to being competitive.

1. Then we should give up now. Move the team.
2. True. So let's fill the most important one.
3. **** them. I don't care.
4. And few wanted Ryan. This point defies logic.
5. 1983. Get over it. We can't take Peyton Manning111 We drafted J. George111
6. Let's magically create one worthy of the #3 pick.
7. Yes. Two, even.
8. There are busts at all positions. Get over it. Fixate on women's busts.
9. Huge money with all top-3 picks. Moot.
10. See 5.
11. See 1.

OnTheWarpath15 02-04-2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5459539)
1. Then we should give up now. Move the team.
2. True. So let's fill the most important one.
3. **** them. I don't care.
4. And few wanted Ryan. This point is defies logic.
5. 1983. Get over it. We can't take Peyton Manning111 We drafted J. George111
6. Let's magically create one worthy of the #3 pick.
7. Yes. Two, even.
8. There are busts at all positions. Get over it. Fixate on women's busts.
9. Huge money with all top-3 picks. Moot.
10. See 5.
11. See 1.

This.

DeezNutz 02-04-2009 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 5459537)
That's a mis-statement.

Most people claim that they would have no problem taking Sanchez or Stafford if they are there at #3 and they are given a top 5 grade.

If Pioli gives him only a barely top 10 grade, then taking him at #3 is an enormous reach.

Few have said that a player must be a lock at QB to be a top 3 pick.

You stand by your statement. I'll stand by mine.

This conversation is rehashed daily, so we'll wait for the next, "Unless he's a sure thing" moment. It's coming. Don't worry. And it's not few.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-04-2009 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5459530)
Holy Jesus.

That reads like a True Fan Manifesto.

Let's just chip in and buy them their own franchise, so they'll stay the **** away from the Chiefs.

The "Ottowa Window Lickers"; has a nice ring, yes?

RealSNR 02-04-2009 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5459532)
But then you read this, right?

Did not read that

OnTheWarpath15 02-04-2009 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5459544)
Let's just chip in and buy them their own franchise, so they'll stay the **** away from the Chiefs.

The "Ottowa Window Lickers"; has a nice ring, yes?

How about the Calgary Chickenshits?

Maybe they can get Casey Printers and Tyler Thigpen to battle it out for the starting job.

Manila-Chief 02-04-2009 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sanka (Post 5459415)
Never did I say the Chiefs are going to be a 2 win team next season, but we should be drafting in the top 10-15 next season. And how the hell can't you be impressed with some one like McCoy? The guy only completed 77% of his passes. Plus he could end of being the 3rd rated QB next season, with Bradford and Teabow more then likely coming out next season. Plus McCoy isn't throwing to 4 and 5 star recruits like Sanchez does at USC.

How can I not be impressed?

1. How many "spread QB's" make it in the NFL?

2. I'm not a Big 12 homer.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-04-2009 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5459548)
How about the Calgary Chickenshits?

Maybe they can get Casey Printers and Tyler Thigpen to battle it out for the starting job.

ROFL

I was going for Ottowa Kansas, but that'll work too!

DaneMcCloud 02-04-2009 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5459536)
Why yes.

Yes it is.

Here's a better picture:

Yikes.

Thanks for sharing.

I think.

DaneMcCloud 02-04-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5459543)
You stand by your statement. I'll stand by mine.

This conversation is rehashed daily, so we'll wait for the next, "Unless he's a sure thing" moment. It's coming. Don't worry. And it's not few.

The only "Sure Thing" I've ever known was 16.

And they was right!


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