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HemiEd 12-19-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5311642)
And everyone(especially fans) proceeded to do cartwheels over that signing too.....

I will not disagree with that, he had just had 10 interceptions the previous season in NY.

But to say poor Herm was saddled with this guy, is not correct.

BigChiefFan 12-19-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5311642)
And everyone(especially fans) proceeded to do cartwheels over that signing too.....

I was in that camp when Vermeil was here, but by the time Herm got Law to come play here, many knew Law was stop-gap at best.

Fish 12-19-2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5311665)
I was in that camp when Vermeil was here, but by the time Herm got Law to come play here, many knew Law was stop-gap at best.

Sure.............

el borracho 12-19-2008 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5311106)
He has a TOTAL of 15 wins in THREE SEASONS. He has the 32nd ranked defense. His clock management is pathetic. A competent GM will never hitch their wagon to that type of coaching. What can you dispute out of that?

More important than his three years here are his eight years, overall, IMO, and you cannot blame them all on Carl Peterson.

BigChiefFan 12-19-2008 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5311673)
Sure.............

Yea, everybody KNEW a 38 year old cornerback was the future for another decade, right?

Gee, I feel for those that actually believed that. How anybody could assume Law would be anything more than stop-gap at his age, was delusional then.

TRR 12-19-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5311514)
I thought the same thing when I read TRR's post.:D



The Herm backers are lost at sea.

Carl Peterson brought in Ty Law. He pushed for him from the beginning. As soon as his skills eroded, he was gone and youth was in. Herm's decision again to go young.

Also, whoever was talking about dismantling a team, and teams doing that every year in the draft...not like what we did this season. KC started rookies at LT, CB, CB, DT, Nickel CB, and played second year players at DE, DT, amongst other positions. When you "dismantle" a team, it's done like Herm did it.

teedubya 12-19-2008 04:16 PM

Is Gregg Williams available?

MOhillbilly 12-19-2008 04:17 PM

anybody but GW. please lord! anyone but GW.

poopchutecowboy 12-19-2008 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by R&GHomer (Post 5310893)
Regardless of if Herm is still here "which I believe is highly unlikely". Who would you like to see as Gunther's replacement?

I heard Greg Robinson just got caanned!!!!!! lol

crazycoffey 12-19-2008 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 5311663)
I will not disagree with that, he had just had 10 interceptions the previous season in NY.

But to say poor Herm was saddled with this guy, is not correct.


my opinion was that he got saddled with the IDEA - carl's idea - to "stay competative" one more year. Once he knew that he had to try and find some vets that would service his needs, ie - law et al.

CoMoChief 12-19-2008 04:24 PM

Gunther belongs in KC forever.

TRR 12-19-2008 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 5311741)
my opinion was that he got saddled with the IDEA - carl's idea - to "stay competative" one more year. Once he knew that he had to try and find some vets that would service his needs, ie - law et al.

You are correct. Which is also the same reason why Solari was made an Offensive Coordinator, and the same offense (that Saunders ran) was kept. Not because Herm was a fan of it, but because Carl Peterson was.

Frazod 12-19-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5311745)
Gunther belongs in KC forever.

Yes. He'd make a fine steely-eyed, foul-mouthed towlboy.

teedubya 12-19-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly (Post 5311722)
anybody but GW. please lord! anyone but GW.

He is a VERY good DC... and a crummy HC... so why NO GW?

Fish 12-19-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5311712)
Yea, everybody KNEW a 38 year old cornerback was the future for another decade, right?

Gee, I feel for those that actually believed that. How anybody could assume Law would be anything more than stop-gap at his age, was delusional then.

For another decade? I don't know of anybody who was saying that. Way to move the goalposts....


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