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Mecca 09-21-2008 06:05 PM
I thought Albert was up and down, the CB's looked solid..but no all of Herm's picks didn't look solid because Hali, Page and Pollard were complete shit.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5042450)
No it hasnt fell on deaf ears.... What is strange, is how you fail to address the previous two years of draft picks.. Its like you are giving Herm a free pass up until opening week of this season.

Most of us are looking at the over all picture, not just this years "full-blown rebuilding" that you are only focusing on...
Fail to address? Excuse me?

I've made multiple comments about the 2007 & 2008 draft for the past 18 months.

It's not my fault that you haven't read every post.

Reerun_KC 09-21-2008 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042466)
Fail to address? Excuse me?

I've made multiple comments about the 2007 & 2008 draft for the past 18 months.

It's not my fault that you haven't read every post.
Easy D-Mac....

I am just yanking your chain.... :D

Logical 09-21-2008 06:13 PM
By the way the coaching on this team could not be worse. Gun known for producing Linebackers is a miserable failure. Not really a surprise to me. We have no one who can coach young players at QB. I think Herm is controlling the shots on Offense so I lay the blame there. Not sure what to think of the Offensive coordinator.

Reerun_KC 09-21-2008 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CRONUS (Post 5042492)
By the way the coaching on this team could not be worse. Gun known for producing Linebackers is a miserable failure. Not really a surprise to me. We have no one who can coach young players at QB. I think Herm is controlling the shots on Offense so I lay the blame there. Not sure what to think of the Offensive coordinator.
Gailey is Hermcuffed to the max....

This is Herms offense, same one he has ran for the last 7 years...

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5042450)
Most of us are looking at the over all picture, not just this years "full-blown rebuilding" that you are only focusing on...
If you were truly looking at the overall picture, you'd see that this team has needed a complete enema for 10 years.

The Chiefs are doing their best to stock the roster with youthful talent. There are numerous holes on this roster, even after three drafts. They need at least one more good draft and probably a few free-agents beginning their second contract to be competitive next year.

Anyone who thought they'd win more than three games this year, regardless of offensive coaches and schemes, defensive coaching and schemes, was ill-informed, hopeful or just plain dumb.

Sorry if any of those apply to you personally.

Reerun_KC 09-21-2008 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042507)
If you were truly looking at the overall picture, you'd see that this team has needed a complete enema for 10 years.

The Chiefs are doing their best to stock the roster with youthful talent. There are numerous holes on this roster, even after three drafts. They need at least one more good draft and probably a few free-agents beginning their second contract to be competitive next year.

Anyone who thought they'd win more than three games this year, regardless of offensive coaches and schemes, defensive coaching and schemes, was ill-informed, hopeful or just plain dumb.

Sorry if any of those apply to you personally.
:eek:

Did you just call me dumb?

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2008 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 5042519)
:eek:

Did you just call me dumb?
Not directly

:evil:

Reerun_KC 09-21-2008 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5042530)
Not directly

:evil:
I dont like you anymore...

:D

FYI, I am still just yanking your chain...

milkman 09-21-2008 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5042113)
McBride ****ed up and then Johnson did too.......I'm sorry for everyone on this board who loves DJ, he's exactly what he was in college an athletic guy who's undisciplined undercoached and in college that made him a playmaker in the NFL on most days that means the other team will take advantage of him.

He needs to learn how to play his position, either he has the IQ of 5 or he lacks dedication one or the other.
The fact is, lack of discipline and poor fundamentals are a staple of ****her coached defenses.

I've said over and over that ****her is the most overrarted Defensive coach I've ever seen.

People point to Keith Bullock and say that ****her is responsible for his development.

I look at Bullock and see that he's the only player that has ever developed that ****her was "coaching" and can only conclude, given ****her's otherwise piss poor track record in player development that Bollock became the player he is in spite of, rather than because of, ****her.

milkman 09-21-2008 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5042113)
McBride ****ed up and then Johnson did too.......I'm sorry for everyone on this board who loves DJ, he's exactly what he was in college an athletic guy who's undisciplined undercoached and in college that made him a playmaker in the NFL on most days that means the other team will take advantage of him.

He needs to learn how to play his position, either he has the IQ of 5 or he lacks dedication one or the other.
As for Turk, yeah, he ****ed up, but he's a second year player, coached by the worst staff in the league, and yet he is still an ascending player that did make some plays today.

The same can be said for Tank.
Dorsey also played pretty well for a rookie.

Get these kids an actual NFL coaching staff, and an actual RDE, and they could be a formidable group.

The fact is, overall, the D-Line didn't really play all that badly, but they can't maintain their gaps and the LBs gaps too.

Mecca 09-21-2008 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5042636)
As for Turk, yeah, he ****ed up, but he's a second year player, coached by the worst staff in the league, and yet he is still an ascending player that did make some plays today.

The same can be said for Tank.
Dorsey also played pretty well for a rookie.

Get these kids an actual NFL coaching staff, and an actual RDE, and they could be a formidable group.

The fact is, overall, the D-Line didn't really play all that badly, but they can't maintain their gaps and the LBs gaps too.
I can't in good faith say the line played well when Ryan stood there with no fear of ever even being touched. He stood tall and confident delivering his throws, he looked at more than 1 guy.

I think he's far above most rookie QB's in development from what I saw but also he had 0 fear of getting hit today.

milkman 09-21-2008 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5042461)
I thought Albert was up and down, the CB's looked solid..but no all of Herm's picks didn't look solid because Hali, Page and Pollard were complete shit.
Albert looked a little unprepared in run blocking today, and he didn't dominate Abraham, but neither did he get abused by him.

Not bad for a rookie transitioning from LG to LT in his third game.

milkman 09-21-2008 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5042641)
I can't in good faith say the line played well when Ryan stood there with no fear of ever even being touched. He stood tall and confident delivering his throws, he looked at more than 1 guy.

I think he's far above most rookie QB's in development from what I saw but also he had 0 fear of getting hit today.
Again, we are talking about a rookie, two second year players and a guy that is on his way to the scrub heap.

You, as much as anyone should know that we aren't going to get any pressure from this group.

They have a lot of growing to do, but add a couple of pieces and a real defensive staff, and they can grow.

ILChief 09-21-2008 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RJ (Post 5041910)
Serious question, is there any facet of the game where this team shows promise? The Chiefs haven't been in TV here yet and as you can imagine I haven't wasted my money to go watch them in a bar. I see LJ had a decent day and we only gave up two sacks. Does that mean the line was at least mediocre today?

Also, what about Thigpen? Did he look as bad in the game as his stat line does after?

Anything at all positive to report?
No


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