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Micjones 09-22-2008 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5044954)
Regardless of his QB rating or what the talking heads have to say, Thigpen drove his team down the field twice and scored touchdowns yesterday and put them in a position to score twice more. He's grown from last week.

I suppose as long as you gloss over the five consecutive three-and-outs to start the game, two interceptions and pick-6...

Coupled with more than a half-dozen other passes that could easily have been picked off and I suppose he has been impressive.
:rolleyes:

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And you want to bench that guy in favor of a 35-year-old Never Was with a noodle arm? Seriously?
If I'm not mistaken that QB has the longest pass-completion of the year.

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Huard wouldn't have last 3 series yesterday against that pass rush. Thigpen's running and escapability yesterday is what gave the Chiefs a chance to score.
Are you kidding?
The running game and a softened Falcons defense is what gave us a chance to score. That had Jack and Shit to do with anything Thigpen did. Hell even the ball he threw to Bowe for the TD was behind him. Give Bowe the credit for catching the ball and breaking a tackle to score.

DaneMcCloud 09-22-2008 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones (Post 5044972)
I suppose as long as you gloss over the five consecutive three-and-outs to start the game, two interceptions and pick-6...

Coupled with more than a half-dozen other passes that could easily have been picked off and I suppose he has been impressive.
:rolleyes:



If I'm not mistaken that QB has the longest pass-completion of the year.



Are you kidding?
The running game and a softened Falcons defense is what gave us a chance to score. That had Jack and Shit to do with anything Thigpen did. Hell even the ball he threw to Bowe for the TD was behind him. Give Bowe the credit for catching the ball and breaking a tackle to score.


Sorry, Man. I'd take Thigpen any day of the week over Huard. Imperfections and all.

See, Thigpen actually has a chance to become a solid NFL QB. Huard's had his chance and failed.

It may take him the entire season. Or a few more years. Who knows? But he's got far more upside than Huard. He's also got youthful enthusiasm.

I'll take all of that any day of the week over Noodle-Arm. Warts and all.

Chief_in_Commander 09-22-2008 02:39 PM

He did look much better in the end of the 2nd quarter and 2nd half altogether. It's amazing what a decent running game does to open up your offense. He started off shaky and what did you expect really? First start and he had one full week of first team work, did you expect him to light it up? After he settled down he did fine. I don't count on him to run but at least he poses a threat. What good does starting Huard do? I mean really, do you think he would do that much better at leading this team? Is he more consistent? Yeah, from 15 yards and closer. The safeties could stand 15 yards away and never step a footback, and not even worry about getting beat deep. The pic-6 was garbage time and Bowe fell down and lets not act like the 7 yd slant Huard threw to give him that completion was anything more thatn that......a 7 yd slant

TrebMaxx 09-22-2008 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5043654)
You're a dumb****.

Dumb. ****.

Please explain to me how at 7th round, waived player who's played against 1-AA competition is supposed to perform at a higher level than Thigpen has after being forced into a starting role.

Better yet, dipshit, please cite a similar incident. Stats, QB coach, and QB.

Or better yet, SHUT THE **** UP.

How about you provide some stats, a QB that Dick Curl has groomed to be at least decent in the NFL.

See, I am not being critical of Thigpen. I am being critical of our coaching staff and the play of all of our young QB's we have had in here since Herm took over. Including Croyle. I am saying that Dick Curl has no business as a QB Coach.

No need to make your self look like such an assclown with your internet tough guy act. This is just football talk on a football board. I have refrained from name calling with you because I don't have anything against you. I am a Chiefs fan and you are a Chiefs fan. But seriously, go f*** yourself.

BTW, fairly similar but better coaching and granted Div 1A. I am sure that probably is a real big difference to you..
Tim Rattay http://www.azcardinals.com/team/bio.php?PRKey=168

• Born in Elyria, OH, was raised in Phoenix and attended Phoenix Christian High School before playing his first two seasons of college ball at Scottsdale Community College.
• Since 1995, 30 quarterbacks have been drafted in the seventh round and he is one of only two (Billy Volek) seventh round or undrafted quarterbacks to enter the league since that year and pass for more than 400 yards in a game.
• One of just three quarterbacks in NFL history to throw only one interception in his first 150 pass attempts (Tom Brady/NE, Bruce Gradkowski/TB).
• Has thrown three touchdowns in a game three times, the last time was at Chicago on 12/17/06.

Pro Career:
Signed by the Cardinals as a free agent on 10/9/07, was originally a seventh round (212th overall) draft choice by the 49ers in the 2000 NFL Draft. He spent five full years with San Francisco where he appeared in 32 games with 16 starts, completing 356 of 586 passes for 3,941 yards, 19 touchdowns, 12 interceptions before being traded to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on 10/18/05. He was inactive for the final 10 games of the season with the Buccaneers before appearing in four games (two starts) and completing 61-of-101passes for 748 yards, four touchdowns and two interceptions in 2006. He then signed with the Tennessee Titans as an unrestricted free agent on 5/11/07 and attended training camp with the Titans before being released in the final roster cut on 9/1.

2006: Appeared in four games, with two starts, for the Buccaneers … saw first regular season action as a Buccaneer vs. Atl (12/10), entering the game in the fourth quarter and completing nine of 13 passes for 83 yards … entered the game in the second quarter and helped erase a 21-point deficit by completing 20 of 35 passes for 268 yards, three touchdowns and one interception @ Chi (12/17) … completed 16 of 26 passes for 212 yards and one interception in his first start as a Buccaneer @ Cle (12/24) … completed 16 of 27 passes for 185 yards and a touchdown vs. Sea (12/31).

2005: Prior to being traded to the Buccaneers by San Francisco on 10/18, started all four games he appeared in for the 49ers … completed 11 of 16 passes for 165 yards, two touchdowns and a career-high 141.9 passer rating vs. StL (9/11) … completed 21 of 24 passes for 269 yards with three touchdowns and two interceptions vs. Dal (9/25); threw for three touchdowns for second time in his career … completed 11 of 21 passes for 102 yards and an interception vs. Ari (10/2) in Mexico City … was inactive (third quarterback) for all 10 games with Tampa Bay.

2004: Started a career-high nine games and recorded career-highs in completions (198), attempts (325), passing yards (2,169) and touchdowns (10) with the 49ers … completed 18 of 31 passes for 175 yards with two touchdowns and one interception vs. Atl (9/12) … completed 31 of 47 passes for 299 yards with two touchdowns and one interception vs. StL (10/3) … set career-highs for completions (38), attempts (57) and yards (417) with two touchdowns vs. Ari (10/10) … completed 18 of 28 passes for 286 yards with one touchdown and one interception @ NYJ (10/17) … completed 23 of 35 passes for 259 yards with two touchdowns and one interception vs. Sea (11/7) … completed 22 of 37 passes for 284 yards with one touchdown and four interceptions vs. Car (11/14) … completed 15 of 31 passes for 147 yards and one interception @ TB (11/21).

2003: Played in 11 games and posted three starts (2-1 record) with the 49ers … completed 12 of 18 passes for 146 yards and a touchdown for a 110.0 passer rating @ Min (9/28) … completed 19 of 29 passes for 236 yards with three touchdowns and one interception for his second QB rating (110.7) of 110+ of the season (third of career) … completed 21 of 27 passes for 254 yards and two touchdowns vs. Pit (11/17); 130.6 QB rating was his highest of the season and second-highest of his career … completed 14 of 30 passes for 142 yards with a touchdown and an interception @ GB (11/23).

2002: Appeared in four games for the 49ers, completing 26 of 43 passes for 232 yards and two touchdowns for a QB rating of 90.5 … receiving the most playing time of his career up to this point when he completed 14 of 21 passes for 138 yards and two touchdowns for a QB rating of 116.8 in the final game of the season @ StL (12/30).

2001: Appeared in three games for the 49ers and completed the only two passes he threw on the season, both coming @ NO (1/6/02), throwing for 21 yards.

2000: Appeared in one game and threw one pass in his rookie season with San Francisco.

Micjones 09-22-2008 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JerodDenny (Post 5044985)
He did look much better in the end of the 2nd quarter and 2nd half altogether.

He completed 7 passes in the Second Half.
The staff took the ball out of his hands. They relied on LJ's legs.
And when he did throw they were almost all high-percentage passes.
Don't let that get in the way of your argument though.

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The pic-6 was garbage time and Bowe fell down and lets not act like the 7 yd slant Huard threw to give him that completion was anything more thatn that......a 7 yd slant
Bowe was on his way to falling down when the pass left Thigpen's hands.
Additionally Houston had gotten itchy and would've jumped the route regardless. There was no threat of us throwing the ball downfield. So I'd wager that he throws that pick-6, anyway, if Bowe hadn't fallen down.

The pass Huard completed to Darling was a 25-yard rope. The other 43 came after the catch. Do you even bother to watch the games?

I can't believe people are clamoring for a QB who has a 4 yard per completion average. To put that in perspective for you... Jamaal Charles has more yards per rush than Thigpen does per completion.

Coach 09-22-2008 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5043204)
I don't want Quitter to start either. I wanted a solid NFL basckup. A "real" one like Joey Harrington or Phil Simms as a stop gap till Crouyle gets back. Huard or thigpin will never be our future so there is no backpeddling on rebuilding.

Uh, I wasn't aware that Joey Harrington or Chris Simms was a "real" QB, since they amount jack shit during their times in the NFL.

Sorry. If the Chiefs did get Harrington or Simms, then that's exactly what it is, backpeddling instead of building forward.

Chiefnj2 09-22-2008 06:52 PM

I'd rather focus on developing the other players since I think there is less than a 1% chance Thigpen can ever develop into anything.


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