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Dante84 03-29-2022 08:06 AM

Eh, it more just sounds like they are turning over every stone to see what their options are. Doesn’t mean a trade is inevitable. Here’s the exact report:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s the clip <a href="https://t.co/OaRpQuTP7c">pic.twitter.com/OaRpQuTP7c</a></p>&mdash; Kristian Gumminger (@kgumminger) <a href="https://twitter.com/kgumminger/status/1508799375442681858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 03-29-2022 08:10 AM

Yea I’m not putting too much stock into that

In58men 03-29-2022 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 16221678)
Eh, it more just sounds like they are turning over every stone to see what their options are. Doesn’t mean a trade is inevitable. Here’s the exact report:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s the clip <a href="https://t.co/OaRpQuTP7c">pic.twitter.com/OaRpQuTP7c</a></p>&mdash; Kristian Gumminger (@kgumminger) <a href="https://twitter.com/kgumminger/status/1508799375442681858?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Just the thought of them trying to add another top tier WR makes me happy

htismaqe 03-29-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16221682)
Just the thought of them trying to add another top tier WR makes me happy

Agreed.

O.city 03-29-2022 08:15 AM

I'm fairly confident they don't end up making pick 29 and 30 this year.

Who or what they do with it is yet to be seen.

The Franchise 03-29-2022 08:19 AM

That makes it sound like it could be ANY WR.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 03-29-2022 08:20 AM

How much would it take to trade for Tyreek? I heard he’s a top receiver

The Franchise 03-29-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16221690)
How much would it take to trade for Tyreek? I heard he’s a top receiver

Hardman and a 4th.

Jerm 03-29-2022 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 16221642)
If we give up picks and pay a WR 20 mil plus when we could
Ve kept Tyreek imma be pissed

Tyreek didn’t want to be in KC any more…that’s pretty damn apparent now.

The Chiefs are willing to pay a WR, he wanted Miami.

The Franchise 03-29-2022 08:22 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As Matt points out, the quote is that the Chiefs are calling teams to inquire about &quot;one of their top receivers&quot; being available (as in, one of that team&#39;s).<br><br>COULD end up being the same thing as a top receiver, but very different than a general &quot;top receiver.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/K8BPk8TDT5">https://t.co/K8BPk8TDT5</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1508808818926538774?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dunerdr 03-29-2022 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221694)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As Matt points out, the quote is that the Chiefs are calling teams to inquire about &quot;one of their top receivers&quot; being available (as in, one of that team&#39;s).<br><br>COULD end up being the same thing as a top receiver, but very different than a general &quot;top receiver.&quot; <a href="https://t.co/K8BPk8TDT5">https://t.co/K8BPk8TDT5</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1508808818926538774?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 29, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

They have a deep ball guy, a tight end, a slot. Now its time for the underneath guy.

ThyKingdomCome15 03-29-2022 08:26 AM

Did we trade for any of these pieces of **** yet?

The Franchise 03-29-2022 08:26 AM

I’m really going to laugh when we trade for Shenault. Everyone is thinking it’s DK and they’ll all flip when it’s Laviska.

htismaqe 03-29-2022 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221700)
I’m really going to laugh when we trade for Shenault. Everyone is thinking it’s DK and they’ll all flip when it’s Laviska.

Honestly I hope it is. He'd be a nice piece in this offense IMO.

Kiimo 03-29-2022 08:29 AM

Why did you have to tease me with McLaurin


he'd be amazing here

The Franchise 03-29-2022 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16221702)
Honestly I hope it is. He'd be a nice piece in this offense IMO.

Yep. We’re going to have an entire room of WR2/3s and I’m here for it.

chiefforlife 03-29-2022 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221700)
I’m really going to laugh when we trade for Shenault. Everyone is thinking it’s DK and they’ll all flip when it’s Laviska.

I would love to get DK but it makes no sense. High draft pick PLUS huge deal. That is stupid after trading Tyreek.

Not crazy about Shenault but I definitely see someone like that being the target. If he truly compares to Deebo as some have said, I could like that!

In58men 03-29-2022 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16221704)
Why did you have to tease me with McLaurin


he'd be amazing here

We can do it, give them picks 30 and 50.

Go DE @ 29, I wouldn’t care how the rest of the draft played out.


DE & McLaurin sheesh already a major upgrade, the rest would be house money to me.

Dunerdr 03-29-2022 08:31 AM

I'd ****ing love Shenault. Dude could be our new healthier Watkins.

OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2022 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221700)
I’m really going to laugh when we trade for Shenault. Everyone is thinking it’s DK and they’ll all flip when it’s Laviska.

I hope it is Shenault - he'd be a cheap, solid addition.

In58men 03-29-2022 08:35 AM

I would probably cry if we land McLaurin. Picks 30 and 50, go DE @ 29 or trade back for more picks, either way this would be an incredible offseason.

BleedingRed 03-29-2022 08:36 AM

I think we are set at WR, we have a potentially more competent group overall this year than last.

staylor26 03-29-2022 08:36 AM

30 AND 50

That’s basically Tyreek’s trade value minus the day 3 picks. No way it would cost that much if it actually happened.

Either way, it’s not happening.

O.city 03-29-2022 08:38 AM

You could probably get mclaurin for like a 2nd


Maaaaaybe pick 30

But he’s not near worth a first and 2nd

In58men 03-29-2022 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16221720)
30 AND 50

That’s basically Tyreek’s trade value minus the day 3 picks. No way it would cost that much if it actually happened.

Either way, it’s not happening.

**** them picks, we also won’t be paying Tyreek money. I mean, if Terry comes cheaper that’s even better. It can happen, just have to be aggressive about it.

The Franchise 03-29-2022 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16221714)
I hope it is Shenault - he'd be a cheap, solid addition.

I could see Shenault or Aiyuk. And I’d be happy with either one. Shenault would be cheaper though.

Dunerdr 03-29-2022 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16221720)
30 AND 50

That’s basically Tyreek’s trade value minus the day 3 picks. No way it would cost that much if it actually happened.

Either way, it’s not happening.

For whom are you talking about a trade for?

htismaqe 03-29-2022 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16221722)
You could probably get mclaurin for like a 2nd


Maaaaaybe pick 30

But he’s not near worth a first and 2nd

There's no way. McLaurin wouldn't warrant the same package of picks, essentially, that we got for Hill.

Not happening.

O.city 03-29-2022 08:39 AM

Aiyuk is interesting

But I’m gonna be honest if I’m trading high value picks for someone I’d much prefer it be a defensive end

Woogieman 03-29-2022 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16221710)
We can do it, give them picks 30 and 50.

Go DE @ 29, I wouldn’t care how the rest of the draft played out.


DE & McLaurin sheesh already a major upgrade, the rest would be house money to me.

So, that would roughly equal: Dax Hill/Pitre, Wyatt, Dean, Ojabo/Mafe, and Christian Watson/Pickens on rookie contracts...for McLaurin? How does that make any sense? The temptation to plug in Tyreek II is clouding judgment it seems

htismaqe 03-29-2022 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 16221734)
So, that would roughly equal: Dax Hill/Pitre, Wyatt, Dean, Ojabo/Mafe, and Christian Watson/Pickens on rookie contracts...for McLaurin? How does that make any sense? The temptation to plug in Tyreek II is clouding judgment it seems

Exactly.

OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2022 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 16221734)
So, that would roughly equal: Dax Hill/Pitre, Wyatt, Dean, Ojabo/Mafe, and Christian Watson/Pickens on rookie contracts...for McLaurin? How does that make any sense? The temptation to plug in Tyreek II is clouding judgment it seems

How did 30 and 50 turn into 5 guys?

O.city 03-29-2022 08:44 AM

He's saying any two of those guys for Mclaurin. It's not happening.

It would be a single pick.

Dunerdr 03-29-2022 08:46 AM

At this point im going to be sad if we dont get Shenault.

In58men 03-29-2022 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 16221734)
So, that would roughly equal: Dax Hill/Pitre, Wyatt, Dean, Ojabo/Mafe, and Christian Watson/Pickens on rookie contracts...for McLaurin? How does that make any sense? The temptation to plug in Tyreek II is clouding judgment it seems

Why throw darts when McLaruin is already proven?

How’s Hardman working out? Andy Isabella, Terrance Marshall, Rashod Bateman, Rondale Moore just to name a few.

We can land a decent prospect WR in the mid rounds. We have plenty of draft capital, we don’t have to give up 50, but maybe high 2023 pick. It can work out, I was just having a knee-jerk reaction.

Kiimo 03-29-2022 08:48 AM

if we're just throwing darts might as well throw them at NFC receivers, right? Much more likely to trade to the Chiefs. Like Baltimore probably wouldn't trade with us just on principle.

In58men 03-29-2022 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16221750)
if we're just throwing darts might as well throw them at NFC receivers, right? Much more likely to trade to the Chiefs. Like Baltimore probably wouldn't trade with us just on principle.

Yep, such as Scary Terry :D

Dunerdr 03-29-2022 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16221748)
Why throw darts when McLaruin is already proven?

How’s Hardman working out? Andy Isabella, Terrance Marshall, Rashod Bateman, Rondale Moore just to name a few.

We can land a decent prospect WR in the mid rounds. We have plenty of draft capital, we don’t have to give up 50, but maybe high 2023 pick. It can work out, I was just having a knee-jerk reaction.

Because then were paying Tyreek money too.

In58men 03-29-2022 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16221756)
Because then were paying Tyreek money too.

He’s definitely not going to cost Tyreek money lol.

That’s absurd

htismaqe 03-29-2022 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16221753)
Yep, such as Scary Terry :D

Bitch!

staylor26 03-29-2022 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16221758)
He’s definitely not going to cost Tyreek money lol.

That’s absurd

If you give up Tyreek compensation, what do you think his agent would be demanding?

Woogieman 03-29-2022 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16221740)
How did 30 and 50 turn into 5 guys?

That wasn't very clear...depending on the mock engine, those are the type of players that could be legit choices at 29, 30, and 50. Names like Wyatt and Ojabo might be long gone of course, but if there is a run at QB, it is possible a very good player at a position of need falls to the Chiefs. Happens to varying degrees nearly every year.

It seems The Plan is to build a team with no holes...they chiefs were burned in the last two years with gaping holes at OL depth, safety, and Edge. Now that they have draft capital unlike the previous several years, BV will build a team that is fast, inexpensive, and deep (2022-and '23 drafts) will allow them build a talent pool that can seamlessly dislodge vets like Chris Jones that get ridiculously expensive. Turning around and trading cheap draft capital for guys n 2nd contracts, when it is a DEEP wr class makes no sense to me.

Dunerdr 03-29-2022 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16221758)
He’s definitely not going to cost Tyreek money lol.

That’s absurd

Hes going to command top end money. Not exactly Tyreeks per sei. But right up there and im sure similar compensation.

In58men 03-29-2022 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16221764)
Hes going to command top end money. Not exactly Tyreeks per sei. But right up there and im sure similar compensation.

Mahomes didn’t restructure this offseason, so I’m sure shit can be done. Getting McLaurin wouldn’t mean it’s all doom and gloom.

O.city 03-29-2022 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 16221763)
That wasn't very clear...depending on the mock engine, those are the type of players that could be legit choices at 29, 30, and 50. Names like Wyatt and Ojabo might be long gone of course, but if there is a run at QB, it is possible a very good player at a position of need falls to the Chiefs. Happens to varying degrees nearly every year.

It seems The Plan is to build a team with no holes...they chiefs were burned in the last two years with gaping holes at OL depth, safety, and Edge. Now that they have draft capital unlike the previous several years, BV will build a team that is fast, inexpensive, and deep (2022-and '23 drafts) will allow them build a talent pool that can seamlessly dislodge vets like Chris Jones that get ridiculously expensive. Turning around and trading cheap draft capital for guys n 2nd contracts, when it is a DEEP wr class makes no sense to me.

If the plan is to build a team with no holes.....it's a plan destined to fail.

It's just not possible. They aren't making 12 draft picks this year. Best case scenario you hit on what, 5 of them?

Picks are for acquiring talent. However that happens. Trade, use the pick, trade the pick etc.

Dunerdr 03-29-2022 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16221769)
Mahomes didn’t restructure this offseason, so I’m sure shit can be done. Getting McLaurin wouldn’t mean it’s all doom and gloom.

I'm not saying it is. It just doesnt make sense to send one top guy off for another.

Woogieman 03-29-2022 08:55 AM

"Why throw darts when McLaruin is already proven?"

Because we have 8 darts, not 3. And my darts are a lot cheaper.

Hoover 03-29-2022 08:56 AM

I think McLaurin is the only WR that fits the mold. Trade for him on his rookie deal, work an extension now that won't break the bank. I can also see why Washington would want to make a deal for a late first rounder as they hunt for a QB of the future.

But if I were talking to them it would be about Montez Sweat. He's been mentioned in trade discussions before. They can't pay him and then Chase Young right?

OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2022 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16221770)
If the plan is to build a team with no holes.....it's a plan destined to fail.

It's just not possible. They aren't making 12 draft picks this year. Best case scenario you hit on what, 5 of them?

Picks are for acquiring talent. However that happens. Trade, use the pick, trade the pick etc.

THIS.

Kiimo 03-29-2022 08:56 AM

McLaurin is probably a pipe dream. It will probably be someone we aren't even thinking of.

Like someone who was injured recently and forgotten but is on the mend. Other than the obvious Michael Thomas type.

I should check the injured wide receivers last season

The Franchise 03-29-2022 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16221762)
If you give up Tyreek compensation, what do you think his agent would be demanding?

McLaurin isn't going for what we got Hill for. Adams was only a 1st and 2nd and he's considered a top 3 WR in the game.

O.city 03-29-2022 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16221771)
I'm not saying it is. It just doesnt make sense to send one top guy off for another.

You could make that switch and save 7 or 8 million dollars a year.

It's all a shell game.

The Franchise 03-29-2022 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 16221771)
I'm not saying it is. It just doesnt make sense to send one top guy off for another.

It does when you factor in cost and age.

OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2022 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221782)
It does when you factor in cost and age.

ALSO THIS.

DK is a pipe dream, but would also be 4 years younger and about $8-10M a season cheaper - as an example.

Hoover 03-29-2022 09:01 AM

And I know we don't have much locked up in the WR beyond next year, but that position group is really the least of my concern, especially with a draft coming up. Its the DE position that would keep me up at night. You add someone like Montez Sweat and you're half way home. Give them 1st (30) and another pick and suddenly they can release Sweat and get their QB. Nice deal for them.

Woogieman 03-29-2022 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16221770)
If the plan is to build a team with no holes.....it's a plan destined to fail.

It's just not possible. They aren't making 12 draft picks this year. Best case scenario you hit on what, 5 of them?

Picks are for acquiring talent. However that happens. Trade, use the pick, trade the pick etc.

I don't necessarily disagree...in most years. This year is different. This year signals a sea change in the roster composition. I think it's an acknowledgment that investing in the top paid player at several positions cost the team a "Dynasty". Due to the depth of THIS YEAR'S draft, it allows a very quick transition to a much deeper roster and the ability to have a top 10 defense by 2nd half of 2023. I admit to being a bit of a draft geek, but I prefer a top 10, YOUNG defense, with Mahomes/Reid still being a Top 5 offense, even without Hill.

TwistedChief 03-29-2022 09:02 AM

I fully understood the logic behind the Hill deal when all was said and done.

And I fully understand why Veach is inquiring about top WRs. Leave no stone unturned.

But I do not fully understand the logic in giving up a lot of picks and paying a lot of money for a WR not named Tyreek Hill.

Adams and Hill both had leverage and were willing to sit out. On some level, that reduced their value. Why would Washington trade McLaurin for instance after they went out and got Wentz? The team has all the leverage on their end and it wouldn't be some bargain price even if they were open to dealing.

I know we all like to dream though...

staylor26 03-29-2022 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221777)
McLaurin isn't going for what we got Hill for. Adams was only a 1st and 2nd and he's considered a top 3 WR in the game.

Oh I know.

I don’t think he gets traded either way. He’s the only cornerstone player Washington has on offense, and the trade for Wentz tells me they’re dumb enough to think they can win now.

O.city 03-29-2022 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woogieman (Post 16221788)
I don't necessarily disagree...in most years. This year is different. This year signals a sea change in the roster composition. I think it's an acknowledgment that investing in the top paid player at several positions cost the team a "Dynasty". Due to the depth of THIS YEAR'S draft, it allows a very quick transition to a much deeper roster and the ability to have a top 10 defense by 2nd half of 2023. I admit to being a bit of a draft geek, but I prefer a top 10, YOUNG defense, with Mahomes/Reid still being a Top 5 offense, even without Hill.

One years top 10 defense is next years garbage in todays NFL. It's so random from year to year.

They're gonna stock it with draft picks. They've got plenty to keep and trade a few.

The Franchise 03-29-2022 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16221790)
I fully understood the logic behind the Hill deal when all was said and done.

And I fully understand why Veach is inquiring about top WRs. Leave no stone unturned.

But I do not fully understand the logic in giving up a lot of picks and paying a lot of money for a WR not named Tyreek Hill.

Adams and Hill both had leverage and were willing to sit out. On some level, that reduced their value. Why would Washington trade McLaurin for instance after they went out and got Wentz? The team has all the leverage on their end and it wouldn't be some bargain price even if they were open to dealing.

I know we all like to dream though...

There are a lot of factors that go into it but they may just be trying to sell high on McLaurin while they can. I highly doubt that dude wants to stay in Washington after his contract is up and one injury tanks their value.

I say all that but I still don't believe they'll trade him.

OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2022 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16221790)
I fully understood the logic behind the Hill deal when all was said and done.

And I fully understand why Veach is inquiring about top WRs. Leave no stone unturned.

But I do not fully understand the logic in giving up a lot of picks and paying a lot of money for a WR not named Tyreek Hill.

Adams and Hill both had leverage and were willing to sit out. On some level, that reduced their value. Why would Washington trade McLaurin for instance after they went out and got Wentz? The team has all the leverage on their end and it wouldn't be some bargain price even if they were open to dealing.

I know we all like to dream though...

If Veach makes a trade, he likely won't be doing both of those things. It would be one or the other. Hell, maybe neither. (hi, laviska)

The Franchise 03-29-2022 09:05 AM

How much of this report is piggy backing off of what Nate Taylor said on 610 a week ago? He said that the team is looking at WRs in the 2nd or 3rd year of their deal.

Hoover 03-29-2022 09:06 AM

You have to identify places on the roster where you are not going to spend real money.

For the Chiefs that has been Oline, but that's changing. CB will likely remain a low cost point for the us, and LB while out guys are on rookie contracts. And I'd never pay big money to a RB, that's suicide IMO.

I don't understand the desire to get yet another WR before the draft. Wee don't need it, we are fine. The DE position is a different story. And I don't know if we can bank on Frank Clark and a rookie.

O.city 03-29-2022 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16221790)
I fully understood the logic behind the Hill deal when all was said and done.

And I fully understand why Veach is inquiring about top WRs. Leave no stone unturned.

But I do not fully understand the logic in giving up a lot of picks and paying a lot of money for a WR not named Tyreek Hill.

Adams and Hill both had leverage and were willing to sit out. On some level, that reduced their value. Why would Washington trade McLaurin for instance after they went out and got Wentz? The team has all the leverage on their end and it wouldn't be some bargain price even if they were open to dealing.

I know we all like to dream though...

Well, devils advocate as I don't think he gets traded, but it would be a player in the last year of his deal that said team weren't planning on paying.

I don't think it would be Mclaurin but there's a few others out there who would make sense.

People seem to forget, the Chiefs were ok paying 20plus million per year to a WR. It didn't work out. Now we don't think they'd be ok doing it again?

RunKC 03-29-2022 09:07 AM

They want a stable of quality receivers not just one and a bunch of shit. Pringle and Robinson were JAG’s and Hardman struggled til the end of the season.

Give Patrick options and he’ll more than make it work

htismaqe 03-29-2022 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16221790)
I fully understood the logic behind the Hill deal when all was said and done.

And I fully understand why Veach is inquiring about top WRs. Leave no stone unturned.

But I do not fully understand the logic in giving up a lot of picks and paying a lot of money for a WR not named Tyreek Hill.

Adams and Hill both had leverage and were willing to sit out. On some level, that reduced their value. Why would Washington trade McLaurin for instance after they went out and got Wentz? The team has all the leverage on their end and it wouldn't be some bargain price even if they were open to dealing.

I know we all like to dream though...

They're not going to trade Hill for picks and then turn around and trade all of those picks for another high-priced WR. Don't even worry about it.

If they trade for a WR, it's going to be a mid-level guy and mid-level draft picks in exchange.

O.city 03-29-2022 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 16221801)
You have to identify places on the roster where you are not going to spend real money.

For the Chiefs that has been Oline, but that's changing. CB will likely remain a low cost point for the us, and LB while out guys are on rookie contracts. And I'd never pay big money to a RB, that's suicide IMO.

I don't understand the desire to get yet another WR before the draft. Wee don't need it, we are fine. The DE position is a different story. And I don't know if we can bank on Frank Clark and a rookie.

Yeah, I think it ends up being a DE they trade for.

The Franchise 03-29-2022 09:09 AM

Send the Jags #135 for Shenault and #180. That's equal value to a 5th round pick.

OnTheWarpath15 03-29-2022 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221814)
Send the Jags #135 for Shenault and #180. That's equal value to a 5th round pick.

Feel like if that was on the table it would already be done.

O.city 03-29-2022 09:10 AM

Trading Hill and getting those picks and money just opens you up to be able to do whatever.

Call around. Wr's, DE's, Corners etc.

I'd call SF and ask about Deebo and Bosa. They are gonna have to pay both next offseason, maybe they don't think they can or want to. Call up the Jags about Allen. Call up the Panthers and see if they want more ammo to go after a QB.

smithandrew051 03-29-2022 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16221804)
They want a stable of quality receivers not just one and a bunch of shit. Pringle and Robinson were JAG’s and Hardman struggled til the end of the season.

Give Patrick options and he’ll more than make it work

Agree with this. I’d fully support getting another WR2/3 on the roster before the draft. Maybe a Shenault type.

In that scenario, I could absolutely see us moving up in the first to get a WR. Maybe Olave, Burks, or London. Really depends on who starts to slip.

That would be an absolutely loaded WR room.

The Franchise 03-29-2022 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16221822)
Agree with this. I’d fully support getting another WR2/3 on the roster before the draft. Maybe a Shenault type.

In that scenario, I could absolutely see us moving up in the first to get a WR. Maybe Olave, Burks, or London. Really depends on who starts to slip.

That would be an absolutely loaded WR room.

I don't see them trading for Shenault and then trading up for a WR. If anything...it means they don't like their options in the first round.

The Franchise 03-29-2022 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 16221819)
Feel like if that was on the table it would already be done.

Or the Jags are just waiting until it gets closer to the draft. They don't HAVE to trade Shenault.

TwistedChief 03-29-2022 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16221802)
People seem to forget, the Chiefs were ok paying 20plus million per year to a WR. It didn't work out. Now we don't think they'd be ok doing it again?

No, I don't. First, I think Hill is unique. Second, I'm betting they've decided they're doing a thematic reboot on the team and that doesn't involve as their first priority trading for a high priced WR when it's a WR-heavy draft.

smithandrew051 03-29-2022 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221823)
I don't see them trading for Shenault and then trading up for a WR. If anything...it means they don't like their options in the first round.

With another GM, I’d agree. With Veach though, you never know. When he attacks a position, he tends to obliterate it.

The Franchise 03-29-2022 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16221828)
No, I don't. First, I think Hill is unique. Second, I'm betting they've decided they're doing a thematic reboot on the team and that doesn't involve as their first priority trading for a high priced WR when it's a WR-heavy draft.

Well if you watch the clip...it sounds more like they were calling around about WRs on other teams. Not TOP WRs. Everyone just jumped to that.

htismaqe 03-29-2022 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16221837)
Well if you watch the clip...it sounds more like they were calling around about WRs on other teams. Not TOP WRs. Everyone just jumped to that.

Exactly right.

Just look at the Chiefs roster. The "top" WR is probably Juju right now. He's not a "top WR".

They're looking for more Juju's, not another Hill.

smithandrew051 03-29-2022 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16221844)
Exactly right.

Just look at the Chiefs roster. The "top" WR is probably Juju right now. He's not a "top WR".

They're looking for more Juju's, not another Hill.

Yeah, it’s like when I was little and my mom would say I was handsome. I was only really handsome in her eyes, not by overall standards.

-King- 03-29-2022 09:19 AM

I'd rather go the draft route at this point. Make a trade for a DE or CB and then in the draft get whichever one you didn't trade for and pick up a WR.

The Franchise 03-29-2022 09:20 AM

This could be another Orlando Brown Jr situation. They could have maybe 2-3 WRs in the first round of the draft this year that they like and they think fit what they're looking for. They also might realize that they aren't going to have a chance at them without giving up insane value to move up to get them.

Go find a younger guy that for whatever reason might not be a long term asset to his team and trade for him.


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