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Pasta Little Brioni 01-04-2024 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17318585)
That was an outlier due to talent issues.

Excuses. "7 nation army" Lamar feasted. That pathetic chant turns him into a real QB unfortunately

Pasta Little Brioni 01-04-2024 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17318585)
That was an outlier due to talent issues.

Also, when has Spags owned him again. Because I don't see that in our prior matchups

Toad 01-04-2024 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17316402)
cannot wait to see lamar :)

One game at a time bro…

Pasta Little Brioni 01-04-2024 06:52 PM

Minshew may feast. 1 game at a time. Losing to a bad Faider team at home on Xmas should humble you a bit.

Megatron96 01-04-2024 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17318933)
Also, when has Spags owned him again. Because I don't see that in our prior matchups



Sept. 28 2020.


Sept. 22 2019.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-04-2024 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 17318964)
Sept. 28 2020.


Sept. 22 2019.

We won't face them with our crowd

Megatron96 01-04-2024 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17318972)
We won't face them with our crowd

Was that part of the question?

RunKC 01-04-2024 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17318570)
This Chiefs d struggles vs the run. That's not a good matchup

Good thing Veach solved that problem today!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> signed former Lions&#39; DT Isaiah Buggs to the practice squad<br><br>His best game this year came against Baltimore. Here are a few run defense clips.<br><br>Fits the NT spot in KC <a href="https://t.co/ueBmmQKV0m">pic.twitter.com/ueBmmQKV0m</a></p>&mdash; Ron Kopp Jr. (@Ron_Kopp) <a href="https://twitter.com/Ron_Kopp/status/1743068438166167838?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 5, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 01-04-2024 10:27 PM

Buggs and Pennel will shut down Baltimore's running game and we will go to the Super Bowl.

HOW SWEET IT IS!

Hammock Parties 01-04-2024 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17318933)
Also, when has Spags owned him again. Because I don't see that in our prior matchups

Lamar was ****ing lost against the Chiefs in 2019 and 2020.

2021 Jones was making the transition to end and those two white losers were playing too many snaps on defense.

There were a lot of defensive talent issues early that year and Baltimore caught us at the right time.

smithandrew051 01-05-2024 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17319096)
Lamar was ****ing lost against the Chiefs in 2019 and 2020.

2021 Jones was making the transition to end and those two white losers were playing too many snaps on defense.

There were a lot of defensive talent issues early that year and Baltimore caught us at the right time.

I don’t think people really remember how bad the defense was for the first half of 2021. It was terrible. We couldn’t defend the run, the pass rush was nonexistent, Sorensen was obviously bad, and Mathieu was clearly making business decisions. Not to mention guys like Mike Hughes getting playing time.

Chiefspants 01-05-2024 07:27 AM

What’s wild is that if Andy doesn’t turtle it on the Ravens 35 and CEH doesn’t inexplicably fumble on the last drive we still win that on a walk off field goal.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-05-2024 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17319096)
Lamar was ****ing lost against the Chiefs in 2019 and 2020.

2021 Jones was making the transition to end and those two white losers were playing too many snaps on defense.

There were a lot of defensive talent issues early that year and Baltimore caught us at the right time.

36 points in the one game against "7 nation army Lamar" is not owning the guy in any shape or form. Point stands. 28 in a game at Arrowhead as well

Rausch 01-05-2024 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17319396)
Point stands.

Not really. The overwhelming evidence is that he doesn't win many playoff games...

Wallcrawler 01-05-2024 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17318587)
False. Our run defense is fine when it needs to be.

You mean like when we needed the ball back against the Raiders, knew the run was coming, and gave up a 43 yard run to all but seal the deal?

Our run defense is what keeps us on the field for 7-8 minute drives.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17319442)
You mean like when we needed the ball back against the Raiders, knew the run was coming, and gave up a 43 yard run to all but seal the deal?

Our run defense is what keeps us on the field for 7-8 minute drives.

That is an outlier.

And no, it's not. That's when the third-down defense fails.

The Chiefs run defense SHUT DOWN Miami's running game. It's fine.

Hammock Parties 01-05-2024 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17319396)
36 points in the one game against "7 nation army Lamar" is not owning the guy in any shape or form. Point stands. 28 in a game at Arrowhead as well

Did you even watch those games? Spags destroyed Baltimore's offense in the game in 2019 before they racked up a bunch of garbage time drives.

2020 was a clowning.

2021, talent issues, not his fault.

Spags will put clown shoes on Lamar again.

Megatron96 01-05-2024 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17319396)
36 points in the one game against "7 nation army Lamar" is not owning the guy in any shape or form. Point stands. 28 in a game at Arrowhead as well



Lol, oh come on. that 2019 game BAL scored just 13 points until the 4th quarter. It was literally 30-13 until 12 minutes left in the 4th. Their last 15 points were during garbage time when the game was already essentially over. And at least one of those BAL TDs in the 4th was almost pure luck.


let's not conflate their final score into more than actually was.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-05-2024 12:12 PM

Point stands. He didn't shut him down. We'll need playoff Pat

Bowser 01-05-2024 12:15 PM

Spags seems to do his best work against mobile and athletic QBs.

The concerning part is that Lamar has actually morphed into a respectable pocket passer.

New World Order 01-05-2024 12:16 PM

The last time we played Balt they looked unstoppable, but Spags has had success against him.

We’re going to have to beat buffalo @buff first

Bowser 01-05-2024 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 17319593)
The last time we played Balt they looked unstoppable, but Spags has had success against him.

We’re going to have to beat buffalo @buff first

I'm going to laugh so hard if the Bills lose to the Dolphins this weekend. Either the 2 seed or out, that's wild.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-05-2024 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17319591)
Spags seems to do his best work against mobile and athletic QBs.

The concerning part is that Lamar has actually morphed into a respectable pocket passer.

72 career win percentage. It's time to respect the guy...

Bl00dyBizkitz 01-05-2024 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17319137)
I don’t think people really remember how bad the defense was for the first half of 2021. It was terrible. We couldn’t defend the run, the pass rush was nonexistent, Sorensen was obviously bad, and Mathieu was clearly making business decisions. Not to mention guys like Mike Hughes getting playing time.

First half of 2021, our defense was historic levels of bad. Like worst looking defense in decades levels of bad.

RunKC 01-05-2024 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17319616)
72 career win percentage. It's time to respect the guy...

What's his playoff winning %?

Hammock Parties 01-05-2024 12:50 PM

Blow Lamar all you want. We have the horses on defense to shut down their offense.

A LB like Tranquill is Lamar's worst nightmare.

Bowser 01-05-2024 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17319641)
What's his playoff winning %?

Not 72%

Pasta Little Brioni 01-05-2024 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17319650)
Blow Lamar all you want. We have the horses on defense to shut down their offense.

A LB like Tranquill is Lamar's worst nightmare.

SEVEN NATION ARMY LAMAR!

Pasta Little Brioni 01-05-2024 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17319654)
Not 72%

But what if White Stripes are there playing LIVE??? EHRMAWGAWD!!!

Bowser 01-05-2024 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17319665)
But what if White Stripes are there playing LIVE??? EHRMAWGAWD!!!

I was sick of that POS song before the Baltimore teams adopted it.

RunKC 01-05-2024 12:57 PM

1-3 record

225 passing yards avg
3 TD's
5 INT's
55.9% completion avg
68.3 rating avg

In case you were wondering

Megatron96 01-05-2024 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17319588)
Point stands. He didn't shut him down. We'll need playoff Pat


lol, okay.


We'll need playoff Pat because our offense sucks. Doesn't have a thing to do with our defense. Never mind that this defense is worlds beyond the one Spags inherited in 2019.

staylor26 01-05-2024 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother (Post 17319616)
72 career win percentage. It's time to respect the guy...

LMAO

Did somebody hack your account? WTF?

Pasta Little Brioni 01-05-2024 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17319717)
LMAO

Did somebody hack your account? WTF?

Was the over selling of "7 Nation Army Lamar" not obvious enough ROFL?

Chiefspants 01-05-2024 04:36 PM

I’ve always argued that Lamar is Alex Smith with a 4.4 and a 100 elusiveness.

But usually at some point in January, QB’s have to rely on their arm to deliver a game winning drive in the freezing cold.

We saw the outcome of that many times, and Lamar will likely have to prove he can deliver in a way that Alex never did.

RealSNR 01-05-2024 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 17319970)
I’ve always argued that Lamar is Alex Smith with a 4.4 and a 100 elusiveness.

But at some point in January, QB’s have to rely on their arm to deliver a game winning drive freezing January.

We saw the outcome of that many times, and Lamar will likely have to prove he can deliver in a way that Alex never did.


Yeah.

The Lamar apologists think Greg Roman is Satan, but that guy didn’t tell Lamar to shit his pants versus the Titans. The Ravens lost that game because of Lamar’s arm

RunKC 01-06-2024 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17319650)
Blow Lamar all you want. We have the horses on defense to shut down their offense.

A LB like Tranquill is Lamar's worst nightmare.

If we get them in 3rd and long it's over. Sneed and McDuffie vs Flowers and an old OBJ?

Yeah we cover 0 blitzing Lamar's ass

JPH83 01-06-2024 11:07 AM

I like Lamar, seems dumb but a good dude that works hard and has got every drop from his talent. Also, this year...think he's thrown pretty damn well. At least from what I've seen.

But yeah, we'll see in the playoffs when it's 3rd and long.

PAChiefsGuy 01-06-2024 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17319676)
1-3 record

225 passing yards avg
3 TD's
5 INT's
55.9% completion avg
68.3 rating avg

In case you were wondering

Yeah but he's gotten better since then. They also have more talent surrounding him than those years. So I wouldn't read too much into those numbers.

He could have a bad game of course, any QB can. But if you think he's going to suck in this year's playoffs due to the his past struggles - that's a foolish take in my opinion.

jjchieffan 01-06-2024 12:59 PM

I remember when Spags was hired, he brought in House to coach linebackers and everyone was excited about it. He developed Bolton and Gay before leaving to LSU. Now that he's Brian Kelly's scapegoat, I wonder if Spags brings him back?

Rausch 01-06-2024 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 17320561)
I remember when Spags was hired, he brought in House to coach linebackers and everyone was excited about it. He developed Bolton and Gay before leaving to LSU. Now that he's Brian Kelly's scapegoat, I wonder if Spags brings him back?

I remember hating the hire because Spaggs always seemed to give up excessive yardage totals and have undersized and speedy pass rushers completely negated by the running game.

Eh, perhaps true at times. That said he's between twice as much of an attacking DC as his predecessor ever was and without a doubt much more creative and confusing.

Perhaps the happiest to be dead wrong about a Chiefs related move I've been since Kelce...

Pasta Little Brioni 01-06-2024 02:09 PM

Imagine Lamar hearing Iggy Thump and going ham on us....

Megatron96 01-13-2024 10:12 PM

SPAGS IS A BEAST

Hammock Parties 01-13-2024 10:32 PM

absolutely depantsed mcdaniels again

LMAO

Chris Meck 01-13-2024 10:33 PM

I've said it before, and I'll say it again...

I ****in' love Spags.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-13-2024 10:35 PM

Pineapple Boy had no chance

Bump 01-13-2024 10:36 PM

They hired the right guy

Wisconsin_Chief 01-13-2024 10:38 PM

Would like to hereby announce my undying allegiance to Steve.

RunKC 01-13-2024 10:39 PM

If this team wins the SB like the Giants did with Eli you put Spags name on that ****ing ring of honor

Chris Meck 01-13-2024 10:41 PM

I LOVE IT.

His pressure packages are completely insane. He's got HUGE BRASS BALLS, and he'll swing 'em.

Hammock Parties 01-13-2024 10:46 PM

Can we please stop bitching about the run defense?

14 carries for 42 yards for Mostert and Achane

Red Dawg 01-13-2024 10:48 PM

Spags is a great DC. He's 3 rings in.

Basileus777 01-13-2024 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17335321)
If this team wins the SB like the Giants did with Eli you put Spags name on that ****ing ring of honor

He's already a shoe in.

DRM08 01-13-2024 10:50 PM

Spags did a phenomenal job against Miami in both games this season. It’s safe to say he owns McDaniel & Tua.

Molitoth 01-13-2024 10:50 PM

Remember when many on CP hated this signing... while coming off of BOB FREAKING SUTTON?

TambaBerry 01-13-2024 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17335397)
Remember when many on CP hated this signing... while coming off of BOB FREAKING SUTTON?

That was me for a while idk what season though but he's done nothing since to make me dislike him. We got him guys that fit his scheme and look what he's done now.

RollChiefsRoll 01-13-2024 11:10 PM

Spags is like, my sixth favorite member of the Chiefs organization. He’s a ****ing Chad.

Chris Meck 01-13-2024 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 17335500)
That was me for a while idk what season though but he's done nothing since to make me dislike him. We got him guys that fit his scheme and look what he's done now.

We got him actual NFL football players instead of Dan ****ing Sorensen and Ben Niemann.

I just love his creativity and aggressiveness and his players really seem to feed off of it, too.

carcosa 01-13-2024 11:11 PM

Good hire imho

Chris Meck 01-13-2024 11:11 PM

And I didn't hear anyone bitch about Karlaftis in coverage once tonight.

(He dropped a few times, just so ya know.)

:)

New World Order 01-13-2024 11:13 PM

I hope Sneed and Spags end up having a baby together!!!!!

TambaBerry 01-13-2024 11:17 PM

Over the entire season we've only given up 129 2nd half points. That's slightly more than a touchdown per game in 2nd half. That's absolutely insane

Sassy Squatch 01-13-2024 11:18 PM

1-12 on 3rd and 264 yards total. Spags made them his bitch tonight.

Molitoth 01-13-2024 11:24 PM

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Hammock Parties 01-13-2024 11:33 PM

lmaooooo

siberian khatru 01-13-2024 11:38 PM

MJD got a filthy mind

WilliamTheIrish 01-14-2024 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17335397)
Remember when many on CP hated this signing... while coming off of BOB FREAKING SUTTON?

I believe the loudest voice in that shitstorm is a guy who was relegated to the RR and then started his own (slightly moderated) board.

As I recall, he used the term Spaggot to describe our (now) beloved DC.

Hammock Parties 01-14-2024 12:06 AM

Spags KNOWS how to beat Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.

He KNOWS.

It's gonna take hero ball to beat this team.

Hammock Parties 01-14-2024 12:07 AM

i'm horny

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Charles Omenihu: &quot;I didn&#39;t join this team to get to the divisional round, I joined this team to get to Vegas...&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/KSHB41?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@KSHB41</a> <a href="https://t.co/ci51jWVoXC">pic.twitter.com/ci51jWVoXC</a></p>&mdash; Aaron Ladd (@aaronladdtv) <a href="https://twitter.com/aaronladdtv/status/1746400761804619899?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

lcarus 01-14-2024 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 17335397)
Remember when many on CP hated this signing... while coming off of BOB FREAKING SUTTON?

I was so ****ing happy when we finally replaced Bob Sutton. God damn. Even if Spagnuolo ended up being average it would've been an A+ move to replace Sutton

Pitt Gorilla 01-14-2024 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 17335500)
That was me for a while idk what season though but he's done nothing since to make me dislike him. We got him guys that fit his scheme and look what he's done now.

People on here have literally complained about him THIS SEASON. Chief Fans probably know some things; it's just that football often isn't one of them.

DRM08 01-14-2024 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17335650)
Spags KNOWS how to beat Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.

He KNOWS.

It's gonna take hero ball to beat this team.

When KC doesn't shoot themselves in the foot with dumb mistakes on offense, they can beat anyone. But it remains to be seen if they can put together enough clean football on offense to get the job done.

All they can do is take it one week at a time. They made it through Week 1 with pretty clean football and it was good enough to win. Keep it rolling, hopefully with a very clean game on offense next week.

Hammock Parties 01-14-2024 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17335663)
When KC doesn't shoot themselves in the foot with dumb mistakes on offense, they can beat anyone. But it remains to be seen if they can put together enough clean football on offense to get the job done.

All they can do is take it one week at a time. They made it through Week 1 with pretty clean football and it was good enough to win. Keep it rolling, hopefully with a very clean game on offense next week.

The thing that stands out to me, is what worked against the Bengals, continued to work in this game.

And Miami's run defense is DAMN good. They played DAMN good defense against the Bills. Maybe not great, but good enough that they should have easily won that game.

We didn't let them bother us a bit.

The Bills defense is not that much better than Miami's. Especially up the middle, which is Miami's strength.

The Ravens defense still scares me.

The only thing in Buffalo that scares me is Josh's legs.

Hammock Parties 01-14-2024 01:28 AM

the vibes are excellent

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">A bit of Chris Jones in the Locker Room: &quot;Shout out to Coach Spagnolia (a spelling of how it was pronounced). Shout out to Coach. Had an excellent scheme. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://t.co/8jv4Esq13w">pic.twitter.com/8jv4Esq13w</a></p>&mdash; Harold R. Kuntz (@HaroldRKuntz3) <a href="https://twitter.com/HaroldRKuntz3/status/1746424338675270034?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hammock Parties 01-14-2024 01:41 AM

good god, nnadi went out of the game and we still stomped their running attack?

Hammock Parties 01-14-2024 01:43 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sneed has the best freeze technique I’ve seen since the 90s. He literally choked out Tyreek on that 3rd dwn . <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/nflplayoffs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#nflplayoffs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Dolphins?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Dolphins</a></p>&mdash; shannon sharpe (@ShannonSharpe) <a href="https://twitter.com/ShannonSharpe/status/1746360044743266476?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 14, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 01-14-2024 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 14070073)
Yikes.

Mahomes on the last year of his rookie deal -- and we're radically changing defensive schemes.

2019 is looking to be a whole lot like 2018 was. Mahomes slaughtering people and our defense getting slaughtered in return.

LMAO

JPH83 01-14-2024 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17335788)
good god, nnadi went out of the game and we still stomped their running attack?

We stomped their running attack because Nnadi went out

Shoes 01-14-2024 02:24 AM

Most impressive characteristic about our defense is the level they are playing at while being the youngest in the league (stat provided by the broadcast).

Hate to mention it but could Spags be the heir apparent to Andy Reid when big red decides to ride off into the sunset?

Hammock Parties 01-14-2024 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 17335803)
Most impressive characteristic about our defense is the level they are playing at while being the youngest in the league (stat provided by the broadcast).

Hate to mention it but could Spags be the heir apparent to Andy Reid when big red decides to ride off into the sunset?

I postulated this a few weeks ago.

It would likely be the best way to maintain continuity.

Nagy might leave. But if he stayed on you'd know pretty quick if he was the answer at OC without Reid.


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