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jAZ 09-21-2011 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7930690)
It doesn't matter who walked out first. There's no more reason to believe that Texas was desperate to get into the Pac12 than there is to believe that the Pac12 was desperate to have them. They both saw the possibility of a benefit and pursued it for a while, but in the end, neither got what they wanted and the talks broke down. That's my point. Larry Scott's statement and your posts based on a Pac12 source are spun to cast the Pac12 in the best possible light. I'm sure DeLoss Dodds could tell the exact same story with a more favorable Texas flavor and both would be true. The Pac12 isn't crying because Texas left them at the altar but Texas isn't either.
That's all true. Texas being able to screw the rest of the Big 12 puts them in a satisfying position. Of course the Pac 12 overall is definitely in a better position financially than the rest of the Big 12. But Texas isn't like the rest of the Big 12, which has been the problem for the rest of the Big 12.

Damn socialists. :)

Stewie 09-21-2011 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7930794)
I didn't quote the post directly above me, that probably confuses you, but it was a response to the statement "do you think they might just leave Texas out of the equation and go after OU and OSU?"
Not confused at all. Thanks for the redundancy.

jAZ 09-21-2011 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 7930745)
But do you really think this is the end of their conversations?

Or at minimum, do you think they might just leave Texas out of the equation and go after OU and OSU?

I guess I am different than most...I truly think Texas' ego could eventually get them in trouble. They're not ND and I don't think they would be as successful as an Independent from a standpoint of viewership.

And who's to say anyone would oblige scheduling them if the superconference ideas form around them?

In the end I am hoping to see them get their "kick in the balls".
The Pac-12 wants to leave TT, OSU, and K-State out of the equation. And bring in UT, OU, KU and MU. That's their plan. My guess is that two things screwed that up.

MU holding out for SEC/B1G and state level political pressure holding the 2nd schools to the primary schools.

Speculation here: Had Scott been able to get those 4 school alone... and not diluted the revenues with OSU, TT and K-State, I suspect it would have been more worth his while to stay at the table longer.

Mr. Laz 09-21-2011 04:06 PM
so the Big-12 is staying together because Texas is such a bunch of assholes that other leagues have second thoughts about wanting them?

i sure as hell hope that KU is still looking for another league.

kstater 09-21-2011 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7930878)
so the Big-12 is staying together because Texas is such a bunch of assholes that other leagues have second thoughts about wanting them?

i sure as hell hope that KU is still looking for another league.
Big 10 will be calling any day.

CoMoChief 09-21-2011 04:44 PM
THIS JUST CONFIRMED...MU TO THE BIG EAST!!!!

CoMoChief 09-21-2011 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 7930885)
Big 10 will be calling any day.
Heh, well.....if Big10 called and offer KU a spot in their league, then well.....that'd be the funniest bitch slap to MU.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2011 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 7930813)
The Pac-12 wants to leave TT, OSU, and K-State out of the equation. And bring in UT, OU, KU and MU. That's their plan. My guess is that two things screwed that up.

MU holding out for SEC/B1G and state level political pressure holding the 2nd schools to the primary schools.

Speculation here: Had Scott been able to get those 4 school alone... and not diluted the revenues with OSU, TT and K-State, I suspect it would have been more worth his while to stay at the table longer.
The anchor excuse is exquisite.

Dante84 09-21-2011 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 7930984)
THIS JUST CONFIRMED...MU TO THE BIG EAST!!!!
......?

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2011 05:25 PM
If this happens then the conference will be able to poach a few weaker individual universities.


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Among the changes: removing of Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe; adopting common rules for individual networks like the Longhorn Network; phasing in revenue sharing from primary television rights; and requiring a commitment of rights of more than five years from conference schools, which would commit all of their game revenues to the Big 12 during that time and make moving to another league difficult to impossible.
Read more: http://newsok.com/source-ou-preferre...#ixzz1YccTCQNo

alnorth 09-21-2011 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 7930798)
That's all true. Texas being able to screw the rest of the Big 12 puts them in a satisfying position. Of course the Pac 12 overall is definitely in a better position financially than the rest of the Big 12. But Texas isn't like the rest of the Big 12, which has been the problem for the rest of the Big 12.

Damn socialists. :)
If you are talking about the penny-ante 3rd tier money, Texas is "screwing over", by maybe a couple million each, 4 or 5 schools. Kansas has the 2nd-best tier 3 deal in the big 12, and one of the greatest in the country. Mizzou is 4th-best in the Big 12 and would break even if we all shared. If all schools shared tier 3, Kansas would lose money.

And in the end, if we share tier 1/2, then all schools are almost perfectly equal, with Texas and Kansas getting a few million more. Don't like it? Improve your value to advertisers, its almost equal now, and the difference is basically irrelevant.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2011 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 7930813)
The Pac-12 wants to leave TT, OSU, and K-State out of the equation. And bring in UT, OU, KU and MU. That's their plan. My guess is that two things screwed that up.

MU holding out for SEC/B1G and state level political pressure holding the 2nd schools to the primary schools.

Speculation here: Had Scott been able to get those 4 school alone... and not diluted the revenues with OSU, TT and K-State, I suspect it would have been more worth his while to stay at the table longer.
The PAC declared the honeymoon over when they felt UT was going to walk away. It was mutual/non mutual face saver.

alnorth 09-21-2011 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7930878)
so the Big-12 is staying together because Texas is such a bunch of assholes that other leagues have second thoughts about wanting them?

i sure as hell hope that KU is still looking for another league.
I don't understand complaining about Tier 3 money, but especially from KU fans.

Kansas benefits from not sharing the piddly little T3 pool of money more than anyone not named Texas.

Bambi 09-21-2011 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7930878)
so the Big-12 is staying together because Texas is such a bunch of assholes that other leagues have second thoughts about wanting them?

i sure as hell hope that KU is still looking for another league.
You'll never know what KU is doing or not doing.

It's great leadership. I feel 100% comfortable with BGL.

God knows where'd KU would be if Sweet Lew was still around.

Bambi 09-21-2011 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by alnorth (Post 7931082)
I don't understand complaining about Tier 3 money, but especially from KU fans.

Kansas benefits from not sharing the piddly little T3 pool of money more than anyone not named Texas.
I don't get it either.

UT will always have so much more than everyone else. Switching conferences will just lead to another big fish (Ohio State, USC, etc etc...)

The best feeling in sport is building a program with less and winning on the field. Running away to another conference will never fix this feeling of inferiority masked as anger.


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