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ROYC75 07-24-2021 12:53 PM

The Big 12 screwed up in 2016 when they had the opportunity to go to 16 teams. They elected to stay at 10 for currently more money per team. Eventually they could have made more in a 16 teams conference with a new TV contract. They could not see far enough into the future.

tredadda 07-24-2021 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15753278)
Sure, sire. KC is a small media market that just so happens to have 3 pro sports teams in it.

As for splitting this market, you could say that about *any* college. There isn’t a market out there, maybe outside Austin TX, that isn’t split between schools. The issue is “dominance” and KU obv dominates the market. 105,000 alums within an hour of downtown is one metric.




Maybe you should ask: what does KU gain from that conference? I’m not seeing many benefits at all, athletically.

Big difference between a pro team where there is no other competition for a long distance (Outside of the Royals and Cardinals) and local college teams. Not saying KC is Pierre, SD, but it is one of the smallest pro sports markets.

Al Czervik 07-24-2021 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 15753245)
If KU is an afterthought, what does that make Mizzou? KU actually has won national championships in major sports and has a top 3-5 all-time blue blood major sports program that is relevant every year and historically. Mizzou has nothing remotely like that, in any sport, ever. Might want to rethink your foolish statement.

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sedated 07-24-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15753472)
The Big 12 screwed up in 2016 when they had the opportunity to go to 16 teams. They elected to stay at 10 for currently more money per team. Eventually they could have made more in a 16 teams conference with a new TV contract. They could not see far enough into the future.

It wasn't lack of vision, it was Texas doing everything they could to run the conference. They opposed expansion because more teams meant they could get out-voted and lose the ability to do whatever they want.

kcclone 07-24-2021 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15753472)
The Big 12 screwed up in 2016 when they had the opportunity to go to 16 teams. They elected to stay at 10 for currently more money per team. Eventually they could have made more in a 16 teams conference with a new TV contract. They could not see far enough into the future.

The problem is that Texas has known going back over 10 years when the B12 was being raided, that they would eventually jump ship. It was just a matter of timing, and figuring out which is the best conference to jump to.

OU likely would rather stay in the B12, but they know they need to stay hitched to Texas for security.

The only thing that could have avoided this was if somehow the top teams in either the Pac 12 or ACC would have jumped to the B12 back in 2016, but that was probably a pipe dream.

Clemson's emergence and ND quasi-joining solidified that conference.

Chief Roundup 07-24-2021 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15753445)
Its and entertaining listen but its clear these guys don't know shit and can't even comprehend what's going on. Its not about getting conferences to 16 teams. Its about money, which means brands and TV contracts, and control

Oh, I think they get that. I think that is why they are talking about getting conferences to those 16 teams. Because many of those teams will not have the ability to get enough draw without being in a larger group to put multiple fan bases together.
Kansas, Kansas St., Oklahoma St, Iowa St, and so on. They do not have enough of a following to generate a TV contract draw. They all need to be part of a larger conference so that the sum can be more than its parts. It is the only for them to be financially viable.

Prison Bitch 07-24-2021 02:12 PM

If Mizzou isn’t calling the BIG right now, they should.

RustShack 07-24-2021 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15753544)
If Mizzou isn’t calling the BIG right now, they should.

I’m sure they’d rather make more money in the SEC.

TomBarndtsTwin 07-24-2021 02:52 PM

Mizzou is NOT leaving the SEC if Texas and OKlahoma join. They’d be crazy too. It’s the biggest $$$$ league in college sports and is only getting bigger. Regardless of where they finish, that money allows them to do a LOT for their university going forward. Besides, as a Mizzou fan, I would welcome bringing back Oklahoma as a regular game. We already recruit against them anyway. **** Texas, but it is what it is. They’ll have to fall in line in the SEC. There are bigger dicks swinging around in the SEC than they ever had to deal with in the Big 12.

Like it or not, college football rules the colleges sports landscape. Mizzou has a better chance of being competitive (not top tier, mind you) in thr SEC than they ever would in the BIG10. Their recruiting would be crippled permanently if they left the SEC. Forget recruiting Texas. No more opportunity to dominate in-state recruiting (which they’re finally working towards doing under Drink) and make no mistake, the SEC brand is a big draw in that. Yeah, it gets a little harder if OK is in the SEC too, but nothing like competing with Ohio State, Michigan’s, Illinois, etc in the north. They have some in roads in Georgia and Florida too, which they completely lose if they leave the SEC.

So to summarize, there is absolutely ZERO reason for Mizzou to consider leaving the SEC and joining the BIG10. They have a seat at the Big Boys table and need to stay right where they are to continue to be secure in the university’s future.

Prison Bitch 07-24-2021 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 15753577)
They have a seat at the Big Boys table

Yeah, too bad it’s a high chair.

Who are you going to beat now?

Mizzou_8541 07-24-2021 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15753544)
If Mizzou isn’t calling the BIG right now, they should.

Less than zero chance.

TomBarndtsTwin 07-24-2021 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15753601)
Yeah, too bad it’s a high chair.

Who are you going to beat now?

Hey, if you’re EVER going to be good, it helps to go against the best. No matter how hard that may be.

There’s a reason Kansas won a ridiculous 14 straight Big 12 titles or whatever it was. Helps when you routinely get to beat up on the orphaned step children. But if that satisfies you all, more power to you.

I’d rather have a high chair at the big boys table than a throne at the kiddie pool.

But to each his own . . . . .

Mizzou_8541 07-24-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by hawkchief (Post 15753245)
If KU is an afterthought, what does that make Mizzou? KU actually has won national championships in major sports and has a top 3-5 all-time blue blood major sports program that is relevant every year and historically. Mizzou has nothing remotely like that, in any sport, ever. Might want to rethink your foolish statement.

I appreciate your passion, but Mizzou was proactive to the changing landscape 10 years ago. Your titles mean about as much as our lack of titles, as we are in the most lucrative and stable conference, that is dictating the future of college football. So, you may think my statement is foolish, but we aren’t the ones playing musical chairs right now. You are.

Prison Bitch 07-24-2021 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 15753618)
Hey, if you’re EVER going to be good, it helps to go against the best. No matter how hard that may be.

There’s a reason Kansas won a ridiculous 14 straight Big 12 titles or whatever it was. Helps when you routinely get to beat up on the orphaned step children. But if that satisfies you all, more power to you.

I’d rather have a high chair at the big boys table than a throne at the kiddie pool.

But to each his own . . . . .


DeBerg level post^^^


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hawkchief 07-24-2021 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mizzou_8541 (Post 15753621)
I appreciate your passion, but Mizzou was proactive to the changing landscape 10 years ago. Your titles mean about as much as our lack of titles, as we are in the most lucrative and stable conference, that is dictating the future of college football. So, you may think my statement is foolish, but we aren’t the ones playing musical chairs right now. You are.

Congrats on winning the conference musical chairs game! That’s evidently a moral victory Mizzou fans can claim momentarily and maybe some day one of your sports programs will actually have a notable accomplishment. KU will be fine, and Allen Fieldhouse and KU hoops will remain a bucket list stop for most sports fans across the country.


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