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Sassy Squatch 02-01-2024 11:05 AM

49ers friend is already convinced they're losing because of Steve Wilks.

Sassy Squatch 02-01-2024 11:09 AM

Hell, the Lions managed 30 even with Goff going all game manager and only attacking downfield on 3rd downs and Dan Quinn going full reerun and leaving points on the field.

duncan_idaho 02-01-2024 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 17379363)
Purdy has a bit of mobility and can throw on the move, but he's nothing like Josh Allen. Josh Allen is just scary to play. Even with those weapons the 49ers have, they don't scare you like Josh Allen scares you.

Allen is a ohysical alien who can beat you with an unbelievable play, even when you do everything right. See that TD pass to Shakir in the left corner of the end zone.

Purdy can create some things with his legs and escape pressure in the pocket (though not to the level of Allen or Jackson), but he isn't going to throw an absolute laser into the perfect, indefensible spot against good coverage while rolling to his left at full speed.

Bl00dyBizkitz 02-01-2024 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 17379279)
Wilks has to come out and do unexpected stuff, which isn't likely because it's far from his style. Simms spoke to that this morning. If they call the defense like they have been, Mahomes will have his way up and down the field.

They also can't let Pacheco just bludgeon them either, if he does, it's going to open up some explosive opportunities.

Is it Bob Sutton levels of not adjusting and just expecting the defense to get timely stops/turnovers?

gordonelloyd 02-01-2024 12:21 PM

I agree with most people that our matchups are pretty good and generally we should win.

SF have outstanding wide receivers, especially compared to ours, but our CBs are elite also, and should neutralize that. And now that we are not using Toney or Moore anymore [hopefully] and CVS seems to be able to catch again, our WRs are no longer costing us games. So let’s call the WR CB matchup even, when against most teams that would normally be SFs biggest advantage.

When you look at Kelce and kittle, and how each team will cover the other teams TE, I think the match ups are even. I expect most posters here will disagree with that, but I try to look at things objectively.

I worry they will switch their running approach and send CMC up the middle far more than usual and that is not our strength. Bolton will need to play a really good game. He certainly showed last Super Bowl he can do that. But I expect Warner will neutralize Pacheco more than our linebackers will neutralize CMC. Advantage SF.

Our OTs have been playing well recently and I think Taylor should be able to handle Bosa especially with the tight end help he will be given, but the worry will be if Taylor starts getting significant penalties again. SF should have great difficulty handling Jones. And posters don’t seem to be giving Karlaftis the credit he deserves for his recent play. Also fortunately , he will not be facing Williams. And although Purdy showed in the Detroit game, he has much better foot work in the pocket then I realized, nobody has the Mahomes magic when a rusher gets past the OL. So advantage Kansas City, unless Taylor gets heavily penalized.

Our field goal game gives KC a big advantage. I don’t think there is much advantage to either team in the punt or kickoff return games.

And of course we have a major advantage in Mahomes over Purdy, although not as big as many posters here seem to suggest. Purdy won’t panic like Lamar. He won’t lose (or win) games by playing hero ball like Allen. But I think he has unusual leadership, and game winning qualities. Like Brady, Montana, Mahomes, and very few others have shown. Of course, he still needs to prove that, but I think the signs are there.

So overall, we should win. But not if the football gods are against us. The San Francisco Detroit game showed what an unbelievable difference that can make and very quickly. let’s hope they are not going to be on the San Francisco side in the Super Bowl like they were in the NFC championship game.

SHOWTIME 02-01-2024 12:22 PM

The Spags vs Shanahan chess match will determine the game.....

Already pretty confident Mahomes and the offense can put up points, but can our D hang will all their weapons? SF probably has better weapons than all the teams we've faced all season - Kittle, Deebo, CMAC, Aiyuk, etc. Getting to Purdy and confusing him is a must. Really wish Omenihu were playing.

Gary Cooper 02-01-2024 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SHOWTIME (Post 17379465)
The Spags vs Shanahan chess match will determine the game.....

Already pretty confident Mahomes and the offense can put up points, but can our D hang will all their weapons? SF probably has better weapons than all the teams we've faced all season - Kittle, Deebo, CMAC, Aiyuk, etc. Getting to Purdy and confusing him is a must. Really wish Omenihu were playing.

Omenihu's injury sucks but he's probably our 5th best defensive player after Jones, Sneed, Bolton, and McDuffie. Against Trent Williams it might be even worse. That said, in the run game I'd rather have Omenihu containing the edge than Danna or FAU.

His absence shouldn't decide the game though, unlike if Jones, Sneed, or Bolton were hurt.

Next season, the injury to Omenihu becomes more important if Jones and Danna are both gone.

Hammock Parties 02-01-2024 12:30 PM

Malik Herring will be the guy who needs to step up at RE.

He's a pretty big dude so I think we'll be good against the run.

RunKC 02-01-2024 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17379364)
49ers friend is already convinced they're losing because of Steve Wilks.

Fact check: true

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Hammock Parties 02-01-2024 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17379364)
49ers friend is already convinced they're losing because of Steve Wilks.

That's all I needed to hear.

55-10 incoming.

RunKC 02-01-2024 12:39 PM

No ****ing way. Have they confirmed it was a strain and not a tear?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid said Joe Thuney (strained pectoral) is the lone player not expected to practice today: &quot;He&#39;s making progress. He&#39;s not counted out.&quot;</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1753114534414602727?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dunerdr 02-01-2024 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17379484)
No ****ing way. Have they confirmed it was a strain and not a tear?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid said Joe Thuney (strained pectoral) is the lone player not expected to practice today: &quot;He&#39;s making progress. He&#39;s not counted out.&quot;</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1753114534414602727?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I believe the team said its a strain but the rumor was it was unclear and might be a tear.

FloridaMan88 02-01-2024 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17379484)
No ****ing way. Have they confirmed it was a strain and not a tear?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Reid said Joe Thuney (strained pectoral) is the lone player not expected to practice today: &quot;He&#39;s making progress. He&#39;s not counted out.&quot;</p>&mdash; Nate Taylor (@ByNateTaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/ByNateTaylor/status/1753114534414602727?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That means Willie Gay is practicing in some capacity… good news.

DRM08 02-01-2024 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17379373)
Allen is a ohysical alien who can beat you with an unbelievable play, even when you do everything right. See that TD pass to Shakir in the left corner of the end zone.

Purdy can create some things with his legs and escape pressure in the pocket (though not to the level of Allen or Jackson), but he isn't going to throw an absolute laser into the perfect, indefensible spot against good coverage while rolling to his left at full speed.

But the Niners have much better weapons than Buffalo or Baltimore. Purdy doesn’t have to do anything crazy.

FloridaMan88 02-01-2024 12:52 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> QB Patrick Mahomes on what makes this year different from the Super Bowl LV repeat attempt: &quot;This year, it has been completely opposite. . . Now, it&#39;s not being satisfied with just getting there. It&#39;s going to take our best football. . .&quot;</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1753121325743239299?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 1, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


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