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JPH83 12-23-2023 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17294267)
Karlaftis is on the verge of double digit sacks in his sophomore season, and you're saying he "improved a little on last year"?

Look dude, I don't at all think you're in that whiny little bitch crowd, you're mostly neutral and balance some of us homers out, but sometimes you're just oddly harsh.

You've been particularly harsh on Karlaftis for example, and it's just really weird. I don't get it.

I definitely have been harsher on Karlaftis than others, and possibly unfairly. I dunno, I feel like there's a really good player there in the making, I just don't see it how others do at present. I think he could and perhaps should be much better against the run. He seems to be washed out and/or misdiagnose things way more than I'd like. Again, if it's just me seeing it, maybe I'm not really seeing it I guess.

Appreciate the comment re being generally balanced. In all honesty I'm pretty happy to get both barrels from you and anyone else if you think I'm talking s***. Useful corrective when I am!

JPH83 12-23-2023 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17294271)
Tempting? Sure.

But ultimately, I'm just not going in that direction. That would make 3 straight years drafting an EDGE in the 1st. With our need for weapons, I just don't think we can afford that luxury.

Agreed, this is my take. Got to let these DEs develop and see what we get. This year it's weapons. I think both Verse and Latu go earlier anyway.

Bowser 12-23-2023 12:28 PM

Does everyone remember the last time we drafted a guy in the first round and sat him basically all year? How did that turn out?


*yes, I'm making that comparison. Let me dream, dammit

RealSNR 12-23-2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JPH83 (Post 17294282)
I definitely have been harsher on Karlaftis than others, and possibly unfairly. I dunno, I feel like there's a really good player there in the making, I just don't see it how others do at present. I think he could and perhaps should be much better against the run. He seems to be washed out and/or misdiagnose things way more than I'd like. Again, if it's just me seeing it, maybe I'm not really seeing it I guess.

Appreciate the comment re being generally balanced. In all honesty I'm pretty happy to get both barrels from you and anyone else if you think I'm talking s***. Useful corrective when I am!

I don't have an in depth analysis of how Karlaftis is doing, but there are plenty of Seth Keysers out there on the internet whose opinion on him this season is much higher than yours.

JPH83 12-23-2023 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17294326)
I don't have an in depth analysis of how Karlaftis is doing, but there are plenty of Seth Keysers out there on the internet whose opinion on him this season is much higher than yours.

They may be right. I think he's going to possibly make another couple of jumps. One where he starts setting the edge better. Another when he starts to win more quickly, and does so across the line. I think if/when he does that we'll have a better idea of what he's producing right now.

His best attribute right now is he's relentless.

Couch-Potato 12-23-2023 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 17294326)
I don't have an in depth analysis of how Karlaftis is doing, but there are plenty of Seth Keysers out there on the internet whose opinion on him this season is much higher than yours.

He IS quietly approaching 10 sacks on the season, going a bit under the radar if you ask me.

JPH83 12-23-2023 01:43 PM

I know this is the FAU thread, but honest question on Karlaftis. Do people see him winning quickly? Do you care either way?

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-23-2023 03:39 PM

The only thing Karlaftis has going for him is his high motor that never quits. I mean, if you can just keep running ,eventually you'll find enough plays where the QB has to hold the ball 6 to 8 seconds or more.

Hog's Gone Fishin 12-24-2023 11:28 AM

It's time to let him play all day and see what we got

O.city 12-24-2023 11:46 AM

The end of the first is about taking guys that fall for whatever reason or taking high upside guys that have some flaws or need some development

If you take more of the first, in general, they tend to be good players early but have lower ceilings. The later tend to take some time but have higher upside but low floors

I think we’ve done well mixing those two in the de spot. Karlaftis is a good solid De, but due to his physical specifics he’s probably lower ceiling wise than fau

It’s also why teams tend to be more open to trading end of first round picks for established players than cp because at some point you need high end players and you aren’t likely getting them by picking there

RunKC 12-24-2023 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17295513)
The end of the first is about taking guys that fall for whatever reason or taking high upside guys that have some flaws or need some development

If you take more of the first, in general, they tend to be good players early but have lower ceilings. The later tend to take some time but have higher upside but low floors

I think we’ve done well mixing those two in the de spot. Karlaftis is a good solid De, but due to his physical specifics he’s probably lower ceiling wise than fau

It’s also why teams tend to be more open to trading end of first round picks for established players than cp because at some point you need high end players and you aren’t likely getting them by picking there

Unless you're looking for a QB or top flight pass rusher then really no. NFL is pumping out receivers and receiving TE's like crazy bc high schools are playing more spread offenses and the NFL has basically adopted it.

Sam La Porta
Tank Dell
Puka Nacua
Rashee Rice
Josh Downs

All taken outside the 1st rd. These receivers/receiving threats are there. Just take them man. And this was in a down year for receivers too.

We all thought this off-season that we'd have to seriously consider trading up for a LT and then Wanya comes in and has looked competent. Hell he's been better than Orlando and Smith for the most part.

I think trading a 1st and payoff dudes is off the table with Mahomes contract unless it's for prime Reggie White.

Pay the all pro caliber 26 year old corner on your own team and pay some money for a quality WR like Calvin Ridley or Mike Evans.

O.city 12-24-2023 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17295565)
Unless you're looking for a QB or top flight pass rusher then really no. NFL is pumping out receivers and receiving TE's like crazy bc high schools are playing more spread offenses and the NFL has basically adopted it.

Sam La Porta
Tank Dell
Puka Nacua
Rashee Rice
Josh Downs

All taken outside the 1st rd. These receivers/receiving threats are there. Just take them man. And this was in a down year for receivers too.

We all thought this off-season that we'd have to seriously consider trading up for a LT and then Wanya comes in and has looked competent. Hell he's been better than Orlando and Smith for the most part.

I think trading a 1st and payoff dudes is off the table with Mahomes contract unless it's for prime Reggie White.

Pay the all pro caliber 26 year old corner on your own team and pay some money for a quality WR like Calvin Ridley or Mike Evans.

They’re not paying any kind of money to over 30 year old wrs.

There are so many guys picked in a draft that don’t hit, yet we look at the outliers and say “pick those”

There’s a lot more sky Moore’s than puka”s

RunKC 01-08-2024 12:10 AM

14 tackles
2 TFL
.5 sacks
7 QB hits

Played less than 200 snaps. Showed flashes early when he had 4 pressures in first 2 games with a 14% pass rush win rate which was 2nd best to Chris Jones.

For those who think he's a bust, check out Devonte Wyatt in GB. Didn't do much of anything as a rookie. This year showed a big jump and got 5.5 sacks as an IDL. I think Felix can be a solid rusher next year and make a jump.

Special_K 01-08-2024 12:37 AM

He had 2 TFL today and should have had another sack when they were driving near the end zone. Also had some pressures I noticed. Not a bad outing for him.

Kiimo 01-08-2024 12:41 AM

Furious George took a while to get going and now he's a double digit sack guy. I think DE is a pretty hard position to just come out of the gate dominating unless you're a legit freak


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