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RunKC 01-29-2020 11:06 PM

Nice to see fans of a pathetic fanbase come out from under their rocks after giving up on their team for years when they weren’t good. Our fans were loyal through ****ing hell known as 2012. The 49ers are a bandwagon franchise with a shit fanbase.

Seriously look at these fickle ****s

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Official kickoff photo <a href="https://t.co/DNqQbcb8NJ">pic.twitter.com/DNqQbcb8NJ</a></p>&mdash; Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) <a href="https://twitter.com/timkawakami/status/663462544946819072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspi...1803139723/amp

FloridaMan88 01-29-2020 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759480)
D Ford led the Chiefs in sacks for you turds last season and you just dismiss him.

Wrong dumbshit, Chris Jones led the Chiefs in sacks last year.

You should probably get your facts straight before you humiliate yourself on an opposing team’s message board.

Also good to see that Dee Ford is continuing to be an injury-plagued broke dick in SF like he was for much of his career in KC.

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759527)
The Falcons? Oh yeah. Funny how that seems to be the only sad point you ever make.


You guys lost the the Colts Tennessee and the Packers.

Seriously all garbage teams.

When literally half of our offensive starters were out.

Tennessee and the Packers both made the championship games of their conferences.

And we bitch slapped the Titans just like we're gonna bitch slap the 49ers.

Come back and talk some shit on Monday. I dare ya

RaidersOftheCellar 01-29-2020 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759509)
Same team ? 😆

You prove my point when I say " Uneducated Chiefs Fans"

It was such a beatdown that Reid was playing several backups early in the 2nd half.

For your sake, I hope that a couple edge rushers and receivers will be the difference in avoiding another 35-7 first half annihilation.

Btw, that’s exactly what many executives and scouts are expecting. Blowout city. Start lubing.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-29-2020 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759527)
The Falcons? Oh yeah. Funny how that seems to be the only sad point you ever make.


You guys lost the the Colts Tennessee and the Packers.

Seriously all garbage teams.

Yeah. Total garbage teams.

I mean, it’s not like the Titans and Packers were playing for Super Bowl appearances a week and a half ago . . . . .

I see your Colt and will raise you a Falcon.


Dumbass

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14759543)
Nice to see fans of a pathetic fanbase come out from under their rocks after giving up on their team for years when they weren’t good. Our fans were loyal through ****ing hell known as 2012. The 49ers are a bandwagon franchise with a shit fanbase.

Seriously look at these fickle ****s

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Official kickoff photo <a href="https://t.co/DNqQbcb8NJ">pic.twitter.com/DNqQbcb8NJ</a></p>&mdash; Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) <a href="https://twitter.com/timkawakami/status/663462544946819072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspi...1803139723/amp

Lots of gloryholes to felch inbetween Santa Clara and Palo Alto.

Lots of streets to shit in.

FloridaMan88 01-29-2020 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759527)
The Falcons? Oh yeah. Funny how that seems to be the only sad point you ever make. You guys lost the the Colts

Fun fact... the Colts beat the Falcons this season.

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14759545)
Wrong dumbshit, Chris Jones led the Chiefs in sacks last year.

You should probably get your facts straight before you humiliate yourself on an opposing team’s message board.

Also good to see that Dee Ford is continuing to be an injury-plagued broke dick in SF like he was for much of his career in KC.

This is the same dipshit that said that his teams was 5-0 in SBs and the Chiefs had none.

He doesn't even know the history of his own team.

He's a buttpirate.

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14759561)
Fun fact... the Colts beat the Falcons this season.

ROFL
LMAO

ClarkForTheWin 01-29-2020 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14759513)
Ford didn’t lead the team in sacks last season, actually.

It is amazing how much the 9er trolls get wrong. There’s something in basically every single post.


Oh my bad D Ford had 13 sacks. Second to Cris Jones with 15. The rest were garbage.


This Chief's Defense is garbage and Kyle Shanahan will work it this coming Sunday.

Enjoy that AFC Championship Trophy. That's all you will get.
That's all you deserve .

ClarkForTheWin 01-29-2020 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14759565)
ROFL
LMAO

FUN FACT! The 49ers beat the Packers TWICE this season.


😂

TomBarndtsTwin 01-29-2020 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759568)
Oh my bad D Ford had 13 sacks. Second to Cris Jones with 15. The rest were garbage.


This Chief's Defense is garbage and Kyle Shanahan will work it this coming Sunday.

Enjoy that AFC Championship Trophy. That's all you will get.

Garbage, huh?

Well, Justin Houston (aka ‘garbage’) also had 9 sacks. Same as your brokedick Dee Ford this year. So I guess Ford is garbage too, huh?

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759577)
FUN FACT! The 49ers beat the Packers TWICE this season.


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Beating the Pack going to be the penultimate highlight of your season.

Fun Fact : the Chiefs almost beat the Packers with half an Oline and a guy who was teaching high school math and coaching high school football at the beginning of the season at QB.

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759568)
Oh my bad D Ford had 13 sacks. Second to Cris Jones with 15. The rest were garbage.


This Chief's Defense is garbage and Kyle Shanahan will work it this coming Sunday.

Enjoy that AFC Championship Trophy. That's all you will get.
That's all you deserve .

Your mom is garbage.

ClarkForTheWin 01-29-2020 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 14759557)
Yeah. Total garbage teams.

I mean, it’s not like the Titans and Packers were playing for Super Bowl appearances a week and a half ago . . . . .

I see your Colt and will raise you a Falcon.


Dumbass

Still both garbage teams.

I'm sure the Titans were a struggle for the Chiefs. Obviously they were.

Goes to show you just how sad the Chiefs are.

Don't let the media hype fool you. Nobody was talking about the Chiefs until the Ravens and Patriots bowed out.

49ers by 15+

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759591)
Still both garbage teams.

I'm sure the Titans were a struggle for the Chiefs. Obviously they were.

Goes to show you just how sad the Chiefs are.

Don't let the media hype fool you. Nobody was talking about the Chiefs until the Ravens and Patriots bowed out.

49ers by 15+

Speaking of the Patriots...we spanked their bitch asses this year.

Speaking of the Ravens...we spanked their bitch asses this year.

49ers are fixing to get their bitch asses spanked.

Chiefs by 50+

RunKC 01-29-2020 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759568)
Oh my bad D Ford had 13 sacks. Second to Cris Jones with 15. The rest were garbage.


This Chief's Defense is garbage and Kyle Shanahan will work it this coming Sunday.

Enjoy that AFC Championship Trophy. That's all you will get.

The only good offenses you played this season were the Rams and Saints and they dropped 31 and 46 on your ass. Oh yeah you played the Ravens in a monsoon. I’m sure that makes you feel better about that defense.

Seriously **** off with this “our defense is good” bullshit. You played a 3rd place schedule.

Bucs
Bengals
Skins
Steelers without any of their good players
Panthers without Cam

Are we supposed to be impressed by that? Are we supposed to be impressed by Russell Wilson with a 50 year old RB coming back and no OL bc his shit franchise can’t draft anymore?

You played some average offenses like the Falcons and Cardinals and they averaged 24 PPG on your “all time defense”.

GTFO with this dumb shit. Nobody outside of SF even knows who your secondary is outside of old ass Sherman. And judging by your shit fanbase, I would bet they don’t know or care either.

Your defense is not the NYG that killed Brady or the Broncos 2015 or the Seahawks 2013.

We are actually salivating at our receivers facing your secondary. It’s absolute shit compared to what we’ve seen this year.

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14759599)
The only good offenses you played this season were the Rams and Saints and they dropped 31 and 46 on your ass. Oh yeah you played the Ravens in a monsoon. I’m sure that makes you feel better about that defense.

Seriously **** off with this “our defense is good” bullshit. You played a 3rd place schedule.

Bucs
Bengals
Skins
Steelers without any of their good players
Panthers without Cam

Are we supposed to be impressed by that? Are we supposed to be impressed by Russell Wilson with a 50 year old RB coming back and no OL bc his shit franchise can’t draft anymore?

You played some average offenses like the Falcons and Cardinals and they averaged 24 PPG on your “all time defense”.

GTFO with this dumb shit. Nobody outside of SF even knows who your secondary is outside of old ass Sherman. And judging by your shit fanbase, I would bet they don’t know or care either.

Your defense is not the NYG that killed Brady or the Broncos 2015 or the Seahawks 2013.

We are actually salivating at our receivers facing your secondary. It’s absolute shit compared to what we’ve seen this year.

Accurate.
As.
****.

The 49ers are garbage.

The 49ers are turds in the street.

We're gonna shut that vaunted run game down, then Jimmy Grapes will throw a few interceptions.

Chiefs win by a large margin.

TomBarndtsTwin 01-29-2020 11:32 PM

Media hype? Of course there’s media hype. We were 4 inches away from the Super Bowl LAST year (thanks to your brokedick DE Ford).

What were you doing then? Planning your draft strategy with your Top 5 pick.

Chiefs haven’t lost by more than 7 points since Mahomes became QB, but you’re gonna blow them out and win by 15+? What an idiotic take.

Are you this stupid in real life or just when you’re trolling on a message board?

Seriously. If you’re gonna hang here, come with good football talk or solid smack talk. Otherwise, just return to your AIDS infested, shit stained, sanctuary loving bundle of sticks festival in SF.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-29-2020 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759568)
Oh my bad D Ford had 13 sacks. Second to Cris Jones with 15. The rest were garbage.


This Chief's Defense is garbage and Kyle Shanahan will work it this coming Sunday.

Enjoy that AFC Championship Trophy. That's all you will get.

So, since that effortless beatdown KC delivered to you last year (Jimmy Grip a Dong was 6-1 coming into that game btw—don’t act like they hadn’t been competitive yet), you added a few pass rushers, a few average receivers, and another low impact player or two...while the Chiefs have seen a night and day turnaround on defense, thanks to a complete player and coaching staff overhaul, while retaining the best offense in the league. And you think you’ve got the upper hand?

This is gonna be fun.

Imon Yourside 01-29-2020 11:37 PM

49er trolls will disappear come Sunday night, they're all over the intrawebz spewing their trash.

FloridaMan88 01-29-2020 11:38 PM

Fun fact... the Chiefs beat the Ravens who beat the 49ers.

Jimmy Crappolo was in his usual mediocre form, throwing for 165 yards for the game.

Mahomes exceeded that passing yardage total vs. the Ravens by halftime... without Tyreek Hill and Eric Fisher.

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 14759624)
49er trolls will disappear come Sunday night, they're all over the intrawebz spewing their trash.

I mean, if those trolling cocklovers are going to hang out here and post, they should at least donate to XFACTOR'S COCAINE FUN IN THE MIAMI SUN GoFundMe.

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14759626)
Fun fact... the Chiefs beat the Ravens who beat the 49ers.

Jimmy Crappolo was in his usual mediocre form, throwing for 165 yards for the game.

Mahomes exceeded that passing yardage total vs. the Ravens by halftime... without Tyreek Hill and Eric Fisher.

Fun Fact : the 49ers ****ing suck. And so do their fans.

FloridaMan88 01-29-2020 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759591)
I'm sure the Titans were a struggle for the Chiefs.

The Titans with Marcus Mariota beat the Falcons this season who beat the 49ers.

Mariota shredded a Falcons defense that made Jimmy Crappolo look like his usual mediocre self.

rabblerouser 01-29-2020 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14759637)
The Titans with Marcus Mariota beat the Falcons this season who beat the 49ers.

Mariota shredded a Falcons defense that made Jimmy Crappolo look like his usual mediocre self.

Fun Fact : Marcus Mariota made the Falcons his bitch. The same Falcons who made the 49ers their bitch.

RaidersOftheCellar 01-29-2020 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 14759543)
Nice to see fans of a pathetic fanbase come out from under their rocks after giving up on their team for years when they weren’t good. Our fans were loyal through ****ing hell known as 2012. The 49ers are a bandwagon franchise with a shit fanbase.

Seriously look at these fickle ****s

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Official kickoff photo <a href="https://t.co/DNqQbcb8NJ">pic.twitter.com/DNqQbcb8NJ</a></p>&mdash; Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) <a href="https://twitter.com/timkawakami/status/663462544946819072?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 8, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadspi...1803139723/amp

Pathetic. They deserve nothing.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-30-2020 12:17 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach explains why he doesn&#39;t have a timeframe for a contract extension with Patrick Mahomes and how negotiations on new CBA could impact prospects for Mahomes and Chris Jones deals this offseason. <a href="https://t.co/dvOkWhv7vn">https://t.co/dvOkWhv7vn</a></p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1222734993123954689?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hern 01-30-2020 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 14759561)
Fun fact... the Colts beat the Falcons this season.

Fun fact... the Colts lost to the Dolphins. Yup...the dolphins.

Clyde Frog 01-30-2020 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hern (Post 14759710)
Fun fact... the Colts lost to the Dolphins. Yup...the dolphins.



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STFU bandwagoner


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saphojunkie 01-30-2020 01:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by All22 (Post 14759374)
You made it! Goldstar!

Monday, you can show everybody at school your Lamar Hunt trophy and tell them you played in a game with the big boys.

20 years from now your scrubs can do interviews about what it was like to be the first victim of Kyle Shanahan's dynasty.

LMAO

Chieftain 01-30-2020 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14759586)
Beating the Pack going to be the penultimate highlight of your season.

Fun Fact : the Chiefs almost beat the Packers with half an Oline and a guy who was teaching high school math and coaching high school football at the beginning of the season at QB.

I was at that game. It if wasn't for LeSean McCoy fumbling the ball in the 4th quarter, we would win that game.

Chieftain 01-30-2020 01:55 AM

I have yet to see a 49er fanboy name me 3 players on their defense who are better at their respective positions than:

Frank Clark
Chris Jones
Tyrann Matthieu

BoxWine_Stouffers_TubeSock 01-30-2020 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14759631)
Fun Fact : the 49ers ****ing suck. And so do their fans.

George Kittle is an awesome ****ing dude, and I don't have many complaints with the other guys on their squad (except Dee Ford obviously). But yeah **** their fanbase. Nothin but a bunch of obnoxious needle-sharing ****tards.

ChiefsFanatic 01-30-2020 02:40 AM

I had a dream that somehow, in crunch time, Tyreek Hill ended up on the field on defense. It was 4th and long, and if we stopped them, the Lombardi Trophy was ours.

Tyreek blitzed from the slot corner position, and hit JG for what appeared to be a sack, but at the last second he flipped it to Mostert, who is very fast.

Tyreek got up and chased Mostert down from behind, one yard short of the 1st down.

In the celebration a reporter asked Tyreek why Spags put him in the game on that play. He laughed and said he looked out and saw that we only had 10 men on the field, and that Spags was trying to yell at someone to get on the field, but Reid had wanted to save the time out for Mahomes in case the 49ers scored, so they were going to roll with 10, but he just happened to be standing next to Spags and they made eye contact and without any words being exchanged he put his helmet on and ran onto the field.

Then they cut back to Joe Buck who was trying to discuss the greatest play in SB history, but every time he had to call Tyreek the hero of the game, he threw up in his mouth a little.

I don't know what any of that means, but I did wake up thinking that Tyreek would have been an absolute shut down corner.

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Chris Meck 01-30-2020 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759480)
Unless Mahomes can play on the defensive side of the ball the Chiefs will be giving up points all game long to the 49ers Offense.

You ignorant Chief fans are hilarious.

You actually think Mahomes is all you need.

D Ford led the Chiefs in sacks for you turds last season and you just dismiss him.

Payback will be a bitch.

Honestly ... before the playoffs everyone was thinking Ravens and Patriots. You turds slip into the Superbowl after falling behind to the TEXANS by 24 and the Titans by 10 and you think your shit does not stink?

Stop listening to the media. They are here to blow up the Superbowl. They are usually very wrong.


It's going to be hilarious when the 49ers win by 15+ comfortably .

That Chiefs run Defense is garbage. That pass Defense is not much better.

Seriously this website is full of ignorant uneducated Chief fans.


Silly troll.

You're going to learn all about the Chiefs entire team on Sunday.

All we have is Mahomes?

LOL.

Oh, buddy. You're in for a treat.

Of course, you won't come back and eat your crow like a good boy. You'll disappear just like all the other teams' trolls that stop in here, talk a bunch of uneducated smack and then vanish after getting their ass kicked.

TwistedChief 01-30-2020 05:23 AM

Warren Sharp was on The Ringer podcast. Pointed out that the 49ers pass rush is average on 1st and 2nd down. It’s on 3rd down where they’re something like 10ppt better than the league average (Chiefs interestingly have the second best 3rd down pass rush).

Against that, the 3rd down sack rate on Mahomes is 3.3% which is nearly the lowest in the league.

Also mentioned that the 49ers are very susceptible to play action, 3 WR sets, and are 25th in red zone defense.

Finally, he noted that the Chiefs defense was absolutely horrible against pre-snap motion which Shanahan is obviously going to throw at them a lot.

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-30-2020 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 14759763)
I had a dream that somehow, in crunch time, Tyreek Hill ended up on the field on defense. It was 4th and long, and if we stopped them, the Lombardi Trophy was ours.

Tyreek blitzed from the slot corner position, and hit JG for what appeared to be a sack, but at the last second he flipped it to Mostert, who is very fast.

Tyreek got up and chased Mostert down from behind, one yard short of the 1st down.

In the celebration a reporter asked Tyreek why Spags put him in the game on that play. He laughed and said he looked out and saw that we only had 10 men on the field, and that Spags was trying to yell at someone to get on the field, but Reid had wanted to save the time out for Mahomes in case the 49ers scored, so they were going to roll with 10, but he just happened to be standing next to Spags and they made eye contact and without any words being exchanged he put his helmet on and ran onto the field.

Then they cut back to Joe Buck who was trying to discuss the greatest play in SB history, but every time he had to call Tyreek the hero of the game, he threw up in his mouth a little.

I don't know what any of that means, but I did wake up thinking that Tyreek would have been an absolute shut down corner.

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I read somewhere that Hill played some DE somewhere ,maybe in high school. Just think how fast he could get to the QB in a pinch.

tredadda 01-30-2020 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759503)
A weaker Chief's schedule . Seriously if the Chiefs had to play the same schedule as the 49ers had to play then I could see the Broncos or Raiders winning the AFC West.

We played the AFCs #1, #3, #4, #6 seeds this year. Not to mention we also played the NFCs #2 and #6 seeds. This was just in the regular season. Please stop.

tredadda 01-30-2020 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkForTheWin (Post 14759591)
Still both garbage teams.

I'm sure the Titans were a struggle for the Chiefs. Obviously they were.

Goes to show you just how sad the Chiefs are.

Don't let the media hype fool you. Nobody was talking about the Chiefs until the Ravens and Patriots bowed out.

49ers by 15+

Please explain how your team who was an inch from being the #5 seed and a couple of last second wins from not making the playoffs will suddenly win by double digits. No team has yet been able to do that. How will yours?

rabblerouser 01-30-2020 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e3263518 (Post 14759750)
I was at that game. It if wasn't for LeSean McCoy fumbling the ball in the 4th quarter, we would win that game.

Actually, we were still moving the ball quite well. I don't understand the baffling decision to punt the ball back to Aaron Rodgers with 4 min left in the game. In fact, everyone on the chat knew we wouldn't get the ball back. It was 4th and 3, should've went for it.

FringeNC 01-30-2020 08:16 AM

Make no mistake, SF has a really good defense -- but was it on the same level of the Patriots this year? I don't think so.

Fat Elvis 01-30-2020 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 14759832)
Please explain how your team who was an inch from being the #5 seed and a couple of last second wins from not making the playoffs will suddenly win by double digits. No team has yet been able to do that. How will yours?


The 49er answer to everything.


https://i.imgur.com/vPtZp3G.gif

duncan_idaho 01-30-2020 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14759857)
Make no mistake, SF has a really good defense -- but was it on the same level of the Patriots this year? I don't think so.


It really depends on the matchup.

The 49ers would match up great against the Ravens, I think, because of their speed at the second level.

Against the Chiefs? The Patriots and Chargers are much better matchups because of the quality and athleticism of their secondaries, which let them play all sorts of coverages.

The Patriots’ D also doesn’t have a difference-making player who is only on the field in sub packages like the 49ers do with Dee Ford.

Mecca 01-30-2020 08:43 AM

Here's Mike McGlinchey taking on Frank Clark...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">#69 Mike McGlinchey wants no part of Frank Clark. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/CK2ydBmtSY">pic.twitter.com/CK2ydBmtSY</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Channel (@ChiefsChannel) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsChannel/status/1222743171072847872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DJ's left nut 01-30-2020 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 14759781)
Warren Sharp was on The Ringer podcast. Pointed out that the 49ers pass rush is average on 1st and 2nd down. It’s on 3rd down where they’re something like 10ppt better than the league average (Chiefs interestingly have the second best 3rd down pass rush).

Against that, the 3rd down sack rate on Mahomes is 3.3% which is nearly the lowest in the league.

Also mentioned that the 49ers are very susceptible to play action, 3 WR sets, and are 25th in red zone defense.

Finally, he noted that the Chiefs defense was absolutely horrible against pre-snap motion which Shanahan is obviously going to throw at them a lot.

Thank you Warren Sharp!!

That's exactly what I was saying yesterday w/r/t Dee Ford - does he actually make them any better or are they actually just really good on 3rd down?

Moreover, their pass-rush win rate fell hard over the latter half of the season when they started playing quality teams. Meanwhile he played more snaps earlier in the season when they were playing poorer offensive lines. So again, it's going to LOOK like the pass rush was better when he was there.

I'm more and more convinced that Ford is just a spurious variable and has very little direct impact on his teammates. It's simply a line that's quite good in pass rush situations, especially against teams that lack premier pass-blocking.

Well okay - let's just keep being efficient on 1st and 2nd downs then.

Someday I'll figure out when Nick Bosa became Reggie White in the eyes of some of these analysts. Yes, he's an AMAZING rookie. Like, among the greatest rookie seasons you'll see. But he's still just a rookie and as a player writ large, he's merely very good. We can deal with very good because our Ts are pretty damn good in their own right.

FringeNC 01-30-2020 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 14759894)
It really depends on the matchup.

The 49ers would match up great against the Ravens, I think, because of their speed at the second level.

Against the Chiefs? The Patriots and Chargers are much better matchups because of the quality and athleticism of their secondaries, which let them play all sorts of coverages.

The Patriots’ D also doesn’t have a difference-making player who is only on the field in sub packages like the 49ers do with Dee Ford.

One thing I noticed is that that Patriots had about twice as many interceptions. Sure, there is a luck component to this, but it is still interesting.

DRM08 01-30-2020 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14759901)
Here's Mike McGlinchey taking on Frank Clark...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">#69 Mike McGlinchey wants no part of Frank Clark. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/CK2ydBmtSY">pic.twitter.com/CK2ydBmtSY</a></p>&mdash; Chiefs Channel (@ChiefsChannel) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsChannel/status/1222743171072847872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems like a good idea to have Clark going after the right tackle all day.

DJ's left nut 01-30-2020 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rabblerouser (Post 14759586)
Beating the Pack going to be the penultimate highlight of your season.

Fun Fact : the Chiefs almost beat the Packers with half an Oline and a guy who was teaching high school math and coaching high school football at the beginning of the season at QB.

{psssst: you used penultimate incorrectly. You're essentially telling him it will be the 2nd to last highlight of their season. In other words, they'll have one more. I suspect that's not what you intended}

O.city 01-30-2020 09:09 AM

Is anyone else already tired of talking about this? **** i'm just ready for the game.

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 01-30-2020 09:12 AM

Jimmy G. was asked last night if this was the best offense he's ever been a part of and he wouldn't say that it was. That's a slap in the face to his teammates when the quarterback doesn't think that they're very elite. He must not have much confidence in his abilities and he's probably having multiple nightmares about Frank Clark and Chris Jones. I can't imagine Mahomes not praising his teammates.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-30-2020 09:16 AM

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wachashi 01-30-2020 09:18 AM

The Niners gave up 46 points to the Saints, then 31 to the Rams. Both of those of teams have offensive lines that produced elite adjusted sack rates on the year.

The Chiefs are the 4th best team at preventing sacks, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Matt Moore took 7 sacks in the two game he played, and our offensive line has only been fully healthy for about a month now.

https://i.imgur.com/mfLVSH6.png

TomBarndtsTwin 01-30-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wachashi (Post 14759949)
The Niners gave up 46 points to the Saints, then 31 to the Rams. Both of those of teams have offensive lines that produced elite adjusted sack rates on the year.

The Chiefs are the 4th best team at preventing sacks, but that doesn't tell the whole story. Matt Moore took 7 sacks in the two game he played, and our offensive line has only been fully healthy for about a month now.

https://i.imgur.com/mfLVSH6.png

Hey, look at the bottom of this list that you just posted. That doesn't bode well for Jimmy G.

Frank Clark, Chris Jones and KPass are gonna feast . . . . .

jaa1025 01-30-2020 09:26 AM

I think it’s legitimate to ask if the 49ers will even score 20 without a special teams or defensive TD. I don’t think this game will be close. Chiefs by 3 scores.

FringeNC 01-30-2020 09:34 AM

When's the last time there was a fully healthy offense in warm weather conditions? Jax? I think the weather thing is being discounted. As long as the field is in good condition, our fast-twitch guys may be running wide-open all over the field like in Jax. What we did on offense the last two games in frigid weather conditions is pretty remarkable.

smithandrew051 01-30-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14759965)
When's the last time there was a fully healthy offense in warm weather conditions? Jax? I think the weather thing is being discounted. As long as the field is in good condition, our fast-twitch guys may be running wide-open all over the field like in Jax. What we did on offense the last two games in frigid weather conditions is pretty remarkable.

If the field isn’t immaculate, then the Dolphins need to be disbanded

Mecca 01-30-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 14759976)
If the field isn’t immaculate, then the Dolphins need to be disbanded

I believe a special grounds crew does the superbowl field it should be perfect.

DJ's left nut 01-30-2020 09:50 AM

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/1/...-chiefs-winner

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Add it all together and that equals the 49ers handing the Chiefs a decisive ass-kicking
The North remembers...

pugsnotdrugs19 01-30-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14759991)

What a ****ing moron LMAO

IF the 9ers take the Pats man coverage game plan, huge if.... the Chiefs have been playing that shit all season long just about. It’s not some huge mystery anymore. They have plays designed to beat it in spades.

On top of that, their dudes aren’t even close to NE in the secondary.

Mecca 01-30-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14759991)

I read the piece the Athletic put out where they had some quotes from unnamed NFL people, they had 2 taking the niners and 2 taking the Chiefs, the one comment that it closed with really stood out to me...

"Playing the Chiefs is like playing the Golden State Warriors, they can come old cold and flat, you do everything right and you feel like you got this, a couple of 3's later you are demoralized and all you can think is man we're ****ed"

Mecca 01-30-2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14759997)
What a ****ing moron LMAO

IF the 9ers take the Pats man coverage game plan, huge if.... the Chiefs have been playing that shit all season long just about. It’s not some huge mystery anymore. They have plays designed to beat it in spades.

On top of that, their dudes aren’t even close to NE in the secondary.

Richard Sherman would get absolutely roasted in man by the Chiefs speed.

Chris Meck 01-30-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14759991)

LOLZ

:LOL:

ChiTown 01-30-2020 10:00 AM

I'm sick of reading dumb takes from talking heads and sports writers. Sunday, please get here quick........

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-30-2020 10:00 AM

Dieter lol

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Beef Supreme 01-30-2020 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14759997)
What a ****ing moron LMAO

IF the 9ers take the Pats man coverage game plan, huge if.... the Chiefs have been playing that shit all season long just about. It’s not some huge mystery anymore. They have plays designed to beat it in spades.

On top of that, their dudes aren’t even close to NE in the secondary.

And on top of that, it's not their game. Yeah, that's a great idea. Completely get away from what you've been doing all year and primarily play a coverage that you haven't played before in the Super Bowl.

Chris Meck 01-30-2020 10:04 AM

Fellas, I think a lot of the prognosticators are right: This game is going to be decided by the defensive line.

Only thing is, they're all thinking about the wrong defensive line.

Clark, Suggs, Jones along with the Hungry Pigs (Pennel, Nnadi, Saunders) and Kpass are going to dictate and dominate.

ReynardMuldrake 01-30-2020 10:07 AM

With this offense, KC may not see a 3rd down for the entire 1st half.

Halfcan 01-30-2020 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14760010)
Fellas, I think a lot of the prognosticators are right: This game is going to be decided by the defensive line.

Only thing is, they're all thinking about the wrong defensive line.

Clark, Suggs, Jones along with the Hungry Pigs (Pennel, Nnadi, Saunders) and Kpass are going to dictate and dominate.

:thumb: Spot on. The Chiefs D line is not getting any respect. I think they are going to pummel Jimmy Grapes into several crucial mistakes.

We know he can't handle pressure, he gets jumpy feet and coughs the ball up.

Halfcan 01-30-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 14759965)
When's the last time there was a fully healthy offense in warm weather conditions? Jax? I think the weather thing is being discounted. As long as the field is in good condition, our fast-twitch guys may be running wide-open all over the field like in Jax. What we did on offense the last two games in frigid weather conditions is pretty remarkable.

Except, all we heard was that the Jags had an edge over us since it was warm weather. It never gets hot in Missouri. :rolleyes:

Mecca 01-30-2020 10:13 AM

It's funny how if you look around 49ers fans think they're team is disrespected it's weird how everyone plays that angle.

Basileus777 01-30-2020 10:15 AM

The 9ers aren't going to come out playing man. They don't have the horses to even try the Pats gameplan. And that sort of defense pretty much runs contrary to everything the Seattle Scheme does, you don't just upend everything you do on defense for the Superbowl.

duncan_idaho 01-30-2020 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14760010)
Fellas, I think a lot of the prognosticators are right: This game is going to be decided by the defensive line.

Only thing is, they're all thinking about the wrong defensive line.

Clark, Suggs, Jones along with the Hungry Pigs (Pennel, Nnadi, Saunders) and Kpass are going to dictate and dominate.

It's pretty funny. And it's not just about the DL, it's about the matchup of the DL.

The Chiefs primarily play 3 DEs these days (Clark, Suggs, Kpassagnon) and all are excellent at setting the edge and hold up well against the run. Jones, when used there, also sets the edge well. That's the exact type of DE you need/want against a zone run scheme. Disciplined ends who set the edge and defend the run well. Hell, even Demone Harris has been solid against the run when playing.

And then on the interior, in Pennel and Nnadi and Saunders, you have big guys who can hold their gaps and fill but who ALSO have enough athleticism to hold their gap and get a piece of the RB in there. Same with Jones, who is now playing disciplined football.

The 49ers have a great running scheme and good blocking talent. They present a challenge. This DL is well-situated to meet it.

And if the front is holding up well and keeping the second level clean, it makes it easier for Spagnuolo to go to his 3-safety nickel D and use Fuller deep, with Sorenson and Mathieu in the box.

I really like the matchup of using Sorenson as basically a WLB against the base sets, as long as the DL is winning. Gives them a better matchup in chasing the zone plays and also a better matchup if the 49ers throw.

wachashi 01-30-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14760010)
Fellas, I think a lot of the prognosticators are right: This game is going to be decided by the defensive line.

Only thing is, they're all thinking about the wrong defensive line.

Clark, Suggs, Jones along with the Hungry Pigs (Pennel, Nnadi, Saunders) and Kpass are going to dictate and dominate.

For sure the KC defense is being slept on. Interesting to note that Xavier Williams has gotten more snaps than Saunders in the past two games. We've got D E P T H at the Hungry Pig position. Fatty fatigue won't be a factor on the interior Dline.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 01-30-2020 10:19 AM

This game comes down to our o line vs their D line. Fisher has a chance to make Bosa his bitch

Marcellus 01-30-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 14760023)
It's funny how if you look around 49ers fans think they're team is disrespected it's weird how everyone plays that angle.

We keep hearing how great the SF defense is and KC's gets ignored, despite the fact it took them 10 games to gel KC gave up fewer points on the season.

RunKC 01-30-2020 10:19 AM

Great point by Dan Orlovsky yesterday. It doesn’t matter what the 49ers cone out with. Pat has a cheat sheet.

All he has to do is line up Kelce outside and it will tell what the 49ers are running. They can try to switch it up after the snap, but thay won’t work well with how much speed we have.

And if they want to play man coverage on Kelce with a LB or DB, then we’ll happily take that mismatch every time.

DJ's left nut 01-30-2020 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14759997)
What a ****ing moron LMAO

IF the 9ers take the Pats man coverage game plan, huge if.... the Chiefs have been playing that shit all season long just about. It’s not some huge mystery anymore. They have plays designed to beat it in spades.

On top of that, their dudes aren’t even close to NE in the secondary.

I actually like his analysis but his conclusion just goes way the !@#$ off the rails, IMO.

Yeah, that's a really smart gameplan - crowd the line with 5, send 4 to confuse the blockign and leave a 5th as something of a spy to cover outlet passes and/or Mahomes legs. If you can get pressure, you can make things difficult. Especially if that 5th guy also has the freedom to attack if Mahomes starts to try to extend the play.

But shit, where's he get the "well it's obviously just gonna shut the Chiefs down" from? It never has before. And yes, the 49er DL is better than the Patriots but the Patriots secondary is better than the 49ers.

He had a lot of interesting information throughout that series but in the end just could not avoid a temptation to hot-take the shit out of it. Why? Couldn't tell ya.

His own analysis doesn't support his conclusion. It's just...odd.

ToxSocks 01-30-2020 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14760007)
Dieter lol

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/Shermanator_42?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Shermanator_42</a> answering these tough questions in stride �� <a href="https://t.co/0RtU85Uw8f">pic.twitter.com/0RtU85Uw8f</a></p>&mdash; Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs/status/1222893336870244352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 30, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

****, i love Tyreek as a player but dude can be so cringe worthy sometimes. His Mahomes impersonation, his "marking his territory" celebration....this interview.

duncan_idaho 01-30-2020 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 14760045)
I actually like his analysis but his conclusion just goes way the !@#$ off the rails, IMO.

Yeah, that's a really smart gameplan - crowd the line with 5, send 4 to confuse the blockign and leave a 5th as something of a spy to cover outlet passes and/or Mahomes legs. If you can get pressure, you can make things difficult. Especially if that 5th guy also has the freedom to attack if Mahomes starts to try to extend the play.

But shit, where's he get the "well it's obviously just gonna shut the Chiefs down" from? It never has before. And yes, the 49er DL is better than the Patriots but the Patriots secondary is better than the 49ers.

He had a lot of interesting information throughout that series but in the end just could not avoid a temptation to hot-take the shit out of it. Why? Couldn't tell ya.

His own analysis doesn't support his conclusion. It's just...odd.

It's a really weird take.

1/2 of the Patriots formula was running a bunch of stunts and twists up front with the DL and crowding the line and muddying up who was coming and who was dropping. The 49ers could do some of that and drop Ford or Bosa or even Armstead into a short zone (though their 43 DEs are not as versatile as the 34 OLBs the Patriots were working with).

The other 1/2 of the formula was having the secondary skill, speed, and depth to match up across the board in man. If I remember correctly, Gilmore primarily covered Kelce man-to-man in that game, and they used the McCourtys to bracket Hill, with Jones covering Watkins and 4th CB matched up on Conley.

First problem for the 49ers is they don't have that type of talent or depth at CB.

Second problem for the 49ers is that the Chiefs have gotten a lot more dangerous at WR with the addition of Hardman. A team trying to play a coverage scheme similar to the one above would have to face the adjustment of the Chiefs putting Hardman on the field. Then either Watkins or Hardman is working solo against a 3rd or 4th coverage guy, and you likely have a single high safety. You're going to be able to force that high safety to pick one. Hardman just destroys angles (even when the pursuit is from Adoree Jackson, one of the fastest corners in the league), and Watkins is so dangerous after the catch, too.

Oh, and then you have a speedy RB out of the backfield to deal with, too. Who is certainly drawing coverage from a LB at this point.

So yeah, that Patriots model works. If you can man up and prevent quick wins from the Chiefs WR. And if you someone in the secondary who can single-cover Kelce and not get pwned. And if you have the depth to stick actual good coverage guys who can run on Watkins and Hardman.


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