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Bambi 06-03-2014 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 10667450)
Say two guys who each have 500+ posts in the thread.

Who is it that can't quit this thread?

You do understand the point of collegiate sports is to win right?

Prison Bitch 06-03-2014 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10667474)
You do understand the point of collegiate sports is to win right?

That's why they beg Kansas all the time to resume play. One win vs Kansas makes a season for each sport there. Norm became a hero there by going 33-41 vs us.

blake5676 06-03-2014 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10667474)
You do understand the point of collegiate sports is to win right?

I do. Mizzou won 12 football games last year. KU has won 14 in the last 5 years COMBINED.

RustShack 06-03-2014 12:11 PM

Not sure how the Big12 schools got "left behind". Big12 made more money per school(again), and other leagues are talking about adding another conference game so they have harder schedules like the Big12. Since you know, they said getting in the playoffs will have SOS factored in more than what it was.

SEC and B1G actually did the dumb thing, where the Big12 now has a great thing going on. We have the perfect sized conference now. We play everyone in football once and truly see who the best team is, not who had the easier schedule. And in basketball we play everyone twice home and away.

RustShack 06-03-2014 01:16 PM

So Saban got an extension, and will make 6.9 mill next year making him the highest paid coach. Aren't there a few basketball coaches who make more?

Bambi 06-03-2014 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10667677)
Not sure how the Big12 schools got "left behind". Big12 made more money per school(again), and other leagues are talking about adding another conference game so they have harder schedules like the Big12. Since you know, they said getting in the playoffs will have SOS factored in more than what it was.

SEC and B1G actually did the dumb thing, where the Big12 now has a great thing going on. We have the perfect sized conference now. We play everyone in football once and truly see who the best team is, not who had the easier schedule. And in basketball we play everyone twice home and away.

I love the 10 team conference. 12 was okay but it had flaws. 10 is mathematically perfect.

TribalElder 06-03-2014 04:45 PM

weak as ****

seriously

weak as ****

10 is better.. Too bad it's like 7.5 members

KU only counts for .5 because they don't participate in football

TCU and WV... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Bambi 06-03-2014 05:07 PM

There's only one thing weak as **** these days... SEC team performance in the NCAA Baseball Tournament.

TribalElder 06-03-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10668402)
There's only one thing weak as **** these days... SEC team performance in the NCAA Baseball Tournament.

LMAO

:facepalm:

Bambi 06-03-2014 06:44 PM

40% of the best league in America reaping. Keep it rollin boys.

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/baseball/d1

Pitt Gorilla 06-03-2014 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10668402)
There's only one thing weak as **** these days... SEC team performance in the NCAA Baseball Tournament.

I didn't know the tournament was happening.

Prison Bitch 06-03-2014 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10668960)
I didn't know the tournament was happening.

That's because Mizzou is a women's softball school.

RustShack 06-03-2014 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10668330)
weak as ****

seriously

weak as ****

10 is better.. Too bad it's like 7.5 members

KU only counts for .5 because they don't participate in football

TCU and WV... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

I don't remember the exact numbers, but wasn't the top SEC teams like 32-0 against the bottom teams either last year or the year before? And you're complaining about the bottom TWO teams in the Big12?

blake5676 06-03-2014 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10668747)
40% of the best league in America reaping. Keep it rollin boys.

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/baseball/d1

It's weird you've now resorted to college baseball smack. I don't really understand it?

TribalElder 06-03-2014 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10668960)
I didn't know the tournament was happening.

It's always basketball season in the mind of Kansas fans ROFL

They forget about other sports like football

KChiefs1 06-03-2014 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 10667516)
I do. Mizzou won 12 football games last year. KU has won 14 in the last 5 years COMBINED.

"Football doesn't count", said every KU fan.

KChiefs1 06-03-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10668028)
I love the 10 team conference. 12 was okay but it had flaws. 10 is mathematically perfect.

Sure it is. That explains why every conference is expanding except one.

Bambi 06-03-2014 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10668960)
I didn't know the tournament was happening.

Of course you don't. You're a mizzou fan and it's Championship season.

Bambi 06-03-2014 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 10669254)
Sure it is. That explains why every conference is expanding except one.

Please…knock yourself out. There's nothing better than places like College Station and New Brunswick, lol.

kchero 06-03-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10668747)
40% of the best league in America reaping. Keep it rollin boys.

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/baseball/d1

So you do root for your conference brethren...funny how you make fun of others supporting the SEC in earlier arguments. Typical of you though, only using arguments when they push one of your reeruned arguments.

Setsuna 06-03-2014 09:20 PM

Lady Gators won Softball Championship Series!!! Represent!
http://i814.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps03a1b1de.jpg

Bambi 06-03-2014 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kchero (Post 10669286)
So you do root for your conference brethren...funny how you make fun of others supporting the SEC in earlier arguments. Typical of you though, only using arguments when they push one of your reeruned arguments.

oh no no my friend. The conference banner supporting came in with the SEC, SEC, SEC chants by the mizzou fateful over the past 3 years.

Ironic isn't it that once mizzou joins the SEC begins to falter in all sports?

Setsuna 06-03-2014 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10669295)
oh no no my friend. The conference banner supporting came in with the SEC, SEC, SEC chants by the mizzou fateful over the past 3 years.

Ironic isn't it that once mizzou joins the SEC begins to falter in all sports?

We just won in Softball and we repeated in Gymnastics and I think we won in Lacrosse too. Womens. So our women own while our men fail hard.

Edit: No Lacrosse.

Bambi 06-03-2014 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Setsuna (Post 10669299)
We just won in Softball and we repeated in Gymnastics and I think we won in Lacrosse too. Womens. So our women own while our men fail hard.

That's pretty cool. We won the outdoor track and field National Championship last year so I definitely have pride in the women's programs.

RustShack 06-03-2014 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 10669254)
Sure it is. That explains why every conference is expanding except one.

Well teams have approached the Big12, and we've elected to stay at ten. But yeah.

nychief 06-03-2014 09:37 PM

Wow this is a boring thread.

Titty Meat 06-03-2014 09:38 PM

Name a program that was all around more successful than Nebraska athletics this year?

Prison Bitch 06-04-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10669313)
Name a program that was all around more successful than Nebraska athletics this year?

Dunno, haven't followed them in years. I remember a long time ago, they were actually known as a "football school" if you can believe it.

Prison Bitch 06-05-2014 05:02 PM

2013 Revenues by School:

23. Kansas 93.1m
35. Mizzery 76.3m
39. KSU 70.4m
186. UMKC 11.2m

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...?fullsite=true

Bowser 06-05-2014 09:49 PM

Kansas is still using Lew Perkins' accountant, I see.

Bambi 06-05-2014 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10673059)
2013 Revenues by School:

23. Kansas 93.1m
35. Mizzery 76.3m
39. KSU 70.4m
186. UMKC 11.2m

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...?fullsite=true

Nice post PB. Every year I look forward to this list.

Mover and Shakers

SPchief 06-06-2014 12:22 AM

Just a quick glance, but 22.5M>18.7M correct? (ticket sales) And that's for all sports I believe.

Bambi 06-06-2014 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10674177)
Just a quick glance, but 22.5M>18.7M correct? (ticket sales) And that's for all sports I believe.

I would hope mizzou would get more tickets sold. They are in a state with more than twice the population of Kansas and have no other in-state BCS schools to compete with unlike KU.

Actually that's surprising, I figured mizzou would have much more $$ coming in from ticket sales.

Kansas dominates in licensing $$ which is more a of a measure of how attractive your brand is nationwide. As a KU fan this is where I want to have more coming in to be honest.

duncan_idaho 06-06-2014 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10673059)
2013 Revenues by School:

23. Kansas 93.1m
35. Mizzery 76.3m
39. KSU 70.4m
186. UMKC 11.2m

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/colle...?fullsite=true

The amount of revenue Kansas is getting from donations is a very nice figure.

Is that all just general donations, or does that include donation money for projects as well?

blake5676 06-06-2014 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10674409)
I would hope mizzou would get more tickets sold. They are in a state with more than twice the population of Kansas and have no other in-state BCS schools to compete with unlike KU.

Actually that's surprising, I figured mizzou would have much more $$ coming in from ticket sales.

Kansas dominates in licensing $$ which is more a of a measure of how attractive your brand is nationwide. As a KU fan this is where I want to have more coming in to be honest.

Was waiting to see how one of the village idiots would spin this one. Now it's that you don't care that ticket sales are not as high as Mizzou, because selling gear is a bigger accomplishment? Nevermind the actual GAME, we'd rather see more people wearing that stupid bird t-shirt. What a joke.

And you most certainly didn't "dominate" in licensing $$. The difference is 34.4M to 30.7M. If that is dominating, then I guess Mizzou wiped the floor with you in ticket sales. After all, they are nearly identical margins when comparing the two.

Am I wrong?

kchero 06-06-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10669310)
Well teams have approached the Big12, and we've elected to stay at ten. But yeah.

Devry doesn't count as a team.

WhawhaWhat 06-06-2014 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kchero (Post 10674539)
Devry doesn't count as a team.

Gordon Gee is President at WVU now and I heard he has a connection to Little Sisters of the Poor.

Bambi 06-06-2014 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 10674444)
Was waiting to see how one of the village idiots would spin this one. Now it's that you don't care that ticket sales are not as high as Mizzou, because selling gear is a bigger accomplishment? Nevermind the actual GAME, we'd rather see more people wearing that stupid bird t-shirt. What a joke.

And you most certainly didn't "dominate" in licensing $$. The difference is 34.4M to 30.7M. If that is dominating, then I guess Mizzou wiped the floor with you in ticket sales. After all, they are nearly identical margins when comparing the two.

Am I wrong?

Look at the last 6 years. It's total domination

blake5676 06-06-2014 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10674628)
Look at the last 6 years. It's total domination

Your ability to move the goalposts everytime your BS gets called out is just uncanny. You should honestly be in politics.

Pitt Gorilla 06-06-2014 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10674409)
I would hope mizzou would get more tickets sold. They are in a state with more than twice the population of Kansas and have no other in-state BCS schools to compete with unlike KU.

Actually that's surprising, I figured mizzou would have much more $$ coming in from ticket sales.

Kansas dominates in licensing $$ which is more a of a measure of how attractive your brand is nationwide. As a KU fan this is where I want to have more coming in to be honest.

Both schools have venues that hold a finite number of people. Given that the capacities are minuscule when compared to the state populations, I'm not sure how this matters.

Bambi 06-06-2014 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10674646)
Both schools have venues that hold a finite number of people. Given that the capacities are minuscule when compared to the state populations, I'm not sure how this matters.

lol, you're kidding right?

Pitt Gorilla 06-06-2014 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10674628)
Look at the last 6 years. It's total domination

Wins/losses?

Pitt Gorilla 06-06-2014 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10674653)
lol, you're kidding right?

If it's a desirable product, you have more than enough people to fill the venues, no?

Bambi 06-06-2014 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10674658)
If it's a desirable product, you have more than enough people to fill the venues, no?

Either that or companies are willing to pay you more for your licensing. Who knows, I'm not an expert.

Pitt Gorilla 06-06-2014 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10674661)
Either that or companies are willing to pay you more for your licensing. Who knows, I'm not an expert.

Why the need to switch topics? You seemed to be on your way to making a solid argument for disbanding ku football.

blake5676 06-06-2014 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10674661)
Who knows, I'm not an expert.

This is the first legitimate and truthful post I've ever seen out of you.

Bambi 06-06-2014 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10674665)
Why the need to switch topics? You seemed to be on your way to making a solid argument for disbanding ku football.

Who's switching topics? You're ticket sales are higher than KU's for having so many people and so little competition.

My stance hasn't changed.

blake5676 06-06-2014 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10674646)
Both schools have venues that hold a finite number of people. Given that the capacities are minuscule when compared to the state populations, I'm not sure how this matters.

This doesn't fit his argument so therefore...NOT TRUE. And as an added point, Lawrence is much closer to a major metroplis (30-60 minutes) than Mizzou (2 hours).

Bambi 06-06-2014 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 10674673)
This doesn't fit his argument so therefore...NOT TRUE. And as an added point, Lawrence is much closer to a major metroplis (30-60 minutes) than Mizzou (2 hours).

KU also has a major BCS school barely an hours drive to the west.

Mizzou? Nothing close.

Prison Bitch 06-06-2014 05:03 PM

It's real simple. Kansas is known as the birthplace of college basketball:

http://img.fanbase.com/media.fanbase...ebef6aac22c49c




Mizzou is known as the place where gay football players smash cake into their lover's face and then lick it off:

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...bwlqxdkcjn.png

TribalElder 06-07-2014 08:42 PM

Ten Kansas State and seven Missouri football players were mentioned on Phil Steele’s 2014 preseason all-conference teams.

In the Big 12, K-State senior defensive end Ryan Mueller of Leawood was a first-team pick along with receiver Tyler Lockett, center B.J. Finney and guard Cody Whitehair.

Wildcats quarterback Jake Waters was a second-team pick and linebacker Jonathan Truman and defensive backs Randall Evans and Dante Barnett were third-team selections. Defensive linemen Terrell Clinkscales and Travis Britz made the fourth team.

Kansas receiver Nick Harwell, tight end Jimmay Mundine, guard Ngalu Fusimalohi and defensive backs Dexter McDonald and Isaiah Johnson were second-team picks.

In the SEC, Mizzou senior defensive end Markus Golden was a second-team selection along with senior punt returner Marcus Murphy, who also features prominently at running back.

Junior linebacker Kentrell Brothers, who is coming off labrum surgery, was picked for the third team.

Three Kansas City-area players — junior center Evan Boehm, a Lee’s Summit West graduate, junior defensive end Shane Ray, a Bishop Miege graduate, and junior kicker Andrew Baggett, a Lee’s Summit North graduate — made the fourth team.

Senior safety Braylon Webb also made the fourth team.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy

Bambi 06-08-2014 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10677355)
Ten Kansas State and seven Missouri football players were mentioned on Phil Steele’s 2014 preseason all-conference teams.

In the Big 12, K-State senior defensive end Ryan Mueller of Leawood was a first-team pick along with receiver Tyler Lockett, center B.J. Finney and guard Cody Whitehair.

Wildcats quarterback Jake Waters was a second-team pick and linebacker Jonathan Truman and defensive backs Randall Evans and Dante Barnett were third-team selections. Defensive linemen Terrell Clinkscales and Travis Britz made the fourth team.

Kansas receiver Nick Harwell, tight end Jimmay Mundine, guard Ngalu Fusimalohi and defensive backs Dexter McDonald and Isaiah Johnson were second-team picks.

In the SEC, Mizzou senior defensive end Markus Golden was a second-team selection along with senior punt returner Marcus Murphy, who also features prominently at running back.

Junior linebacker Kentrell Brothers, who is coming off labrum surgery, was picked for the third team.

Three Kansas City-area players — junior center Evan Boehm, a Lee’s Summit West graduate, junior defensive end Shane Ray, a Bishop Miege graduate, and junior kicker Andrew Baggett, a Lee’s Summit North graduate — made the fourth team.

Senior safety Braylon Webb also made the fourth team.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt...#storylink=cpy


Ben Heeney is also first team Big 12.

WilliamTheIrish 06-08-2014 09:51 PM

Pre season All Big XII?

Never put much stock in that.

Bambi 06-09-2014 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10679282)
Pre season All Big XII?

Never put much stock in that.

I don't think many do but it's a bit lazy by the star on missing a local player on the 1st team if they're going to report on it.

Bambi 06-10-2014 09:25 AM

A bit of realignment news...

"We would love to be in the Big 12," BYU head coach Bronco Mendenhall told Brian Davis of the Austin American-Statesman last Thursday. "I would love to be a member of that conference. I think that would make a lot of sense."

http://www.mwcconnection.com/2014/6/...-to-join-big12

WilliamTheIrish 06-10-2014 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10681726)
A bit of realignment news...

"We would love to be in the Big 12," BYU head coach Bronco Mendenhall told Brian Davis of the Austin American-Statesman last Thursday. "I would love to be a member of that conference. I think that would make a lot of sense."

http://www.mwcconnection.com/2014/6/...-to-join-big12

Any background to this story, wicked?

Bambi 06-10-2014 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10681758)
Any background to this story, wicked?

I think he's a good coach. I read The System and it seemed like he pulled that program together after some really bad criminal activity by players.

If he''s saying things publicly then I'd bet the school is behind him.

Prison Bitch 06-10-2014 11:12 AM

BYU is th only decent school left. They'd probably generate close to the 21m payout they'd take back. When once proud conferences like the BIG are reduced to slumming for Maryland and Rutgers, pickins be slim.

blake5676 06-10-2014 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10681977)
BYU is th only decent school left. They'd probably generate close to the 21m payout they'd take back. When once proud conferences like the BIG are reduced to slumming for Maryland and Rutgers, pickins be slim.

But you'd be opposed to this, correct? Because I could swear that you and Bambi have gone on and on about how 10 is the perfect number and everyone else is taking the "easy" way out.

Prison Bitch 06-10-2014 11:31 AM

Where did I say I wanted an 11th?

blake5676 06-10-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10682004)
Where did I say I wanted an 11th?

I didn't say you had. Just looking to get you on record to being opposed based on your ramblings from the past about 10 being the only right way to do it, thus making the Big 12-4+2 more legitimate than others.

Prison Bitch 06-10-2014 12:30 PM

Cite where I said 10 is ideal. You might be thinking of Bambi or RustShack.

Bambi 06-10-2014 01:49 PM

10 is ideal. It's the only way to produce a true champion in football and basketball.

I would only be in favor of adding BYU if it could be proven that the current Big 12 schools would maintain their current payout from the conference and not be forced to reduce what they bring in every year like the SEC has been forced to do.

blake5676 06-10-2014 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10682121)
Cite where I said 10 is ideal. You might be thinking of Bambi or RustShack.

It's possible I mixed up tweedle dee and tweedle dum....not going to go searching through all your posts to figure that one out. My apologies if that's the case.

blake5676 06-10-2014 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10682258)
10 is ideal. It's the only way to produce a true champion in football and basketball.

I would only be in favor of adding BYU if it could be proven that the current Big 12 schools would maintain their current payout from the conference and not be forced to reduce what they bring in every year like the SEC has been forced to do.

In your opinion, is making the most money more important than having a good program in a good conference? I don't quite understand your obsession with the school payouts. They all make a sh%t-ton of dough, dude.

Bambi 06-10-2014 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 10682274)
It's possible I mixed up tweedle dee and tweedle dum. My apologies if that's the case.

wow, name-calling. You represent your alumni so very well.

Bambi 06-10-2014 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 10682278)
In your opinion, is making the most money more important than having a good program in a good conference? I don't quite understand your obsession with the school payouts. They all make a sh%t-ton of dough, dude.

When did I ever say that? The Big 12 is as good as any conference. Just look at the results.

3 teams currently in the CWS

#1 Conference RPI in basketball in 2014

2 teams represented in the 2013 BCS, outclassed only by the ACC

Prison Bitch 06-10-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 10682274)
It's possible I mixed up tweedle dee and tweedle dum....not going to go searching through all your posts to figure that one out. My apologies if that's the case.

Then why did you ask me the question to "get me on record"? Sounds to me like you value my opinion way too much. Since I don't value yours one bit.

blake5676 06-10-2014 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 10682336)
Then why did you ask me the question to "get me on record"? Sounds to me like you value my opinion way too much. Since I don't value yours one bit.

I value your opinion about as much as I value one of those shits where you ate something spicy and it burns like hell coming out.

I was hoping you would commit to either liking or disliking the idea of BYU getting added to the Big 12, so that you couldn't flip flop on it or change your argument down the road. Nothing more, nothing less.

Pitt Gorilla 06-10-2014 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10682283)
When did I ever say that? The Big 12 is as good as any conference. Just look at the results.

3 teams currently in the CWS

#1 Conference RPI in basketball in 2014

2 teams represented in the 2013 BCS, outclassed only by the ACC

How many of those teams made title games?

Bambi 06-10-2014 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 10682432)
How many of those teams made title games?

Who knows. As a fan of a team that makes title games all the time I can tell you they don't mean all that much unless you win.

Prison Bitch 06-10-2014 03:22 PM

So Blake doesn't care about my opinion, but he wants to get my opinion down on record. Is that classic Mizzouchebag logic or what?

RustShack 06-10-2014 03:32 PM

BYU wants in, Big12 does to want then. They are still content with staying at ten. BYU has been trying to get in since this all went down a few years ago, and still haven't been invited.

Discuss Thrower 06-10-2014 06:21 PM

Quote:

@NicoleAuerbach
Georgetown & Syracuse announce they'll renew basketball rivalry. 4-year home-and-home series begins in 2015-16 in DC.
But.. but Syracuse forfeited the rivalry by leaving the conference!

Pitt Gorilla 06-10-2014 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bambi (Post 10682443)
Who knows. As a fan of a team that makes title games all the time I can tell you they don't mean all that much unless you win.

by that reasoning, final fours mean even less, yet you folks tend to keep track of those pretty closely. It also appears to render your previous post fairly meaningless.

Pitt Gorilla 06-10-2014 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10682814)
But.. but Syracuse forfeited the rivalry by leaving the conference!

Literally nobody is butthurt enough to suggest such nonsense.

WhawhaWhat 06-10-2014 07:29 PM

Obviously the Big 12 would have to find another team to invite with BYU, who is left at this point?

Getting BYU would be huge though because they have a lot of fans.

DaWolf 06-11-2014 10:24 AM

Interesting story on how it could have shaped up if Texas had gone to the Pac 12:

Quote:

While conference expansion has slowed considerably, Luck revealed a plan he had three years ago that would have merged teams from the Big 12 and Big East conferences.

In September 2011, the Big East was stunned by the departures of Pitt and Syracuse, and the Big 12 was in danger of losing four schools to the Pac-12.

"My favorite story that hasn't been written," Luck said. "After Syracuse and Pittsburgh (announced they were leaving for the ACC), that was in the same time frame that Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State were playing footsie with (Pac-12 commissioner) Larry (Scott) and the Big East was a mess."

So Luck began cold-calling athletic directors at Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State and Iowa State with a proposal.

"I didn't know those guys from Adam," Luck said. "I knew the schools. I told them, 'Your conference may fall apart. You guys look like you might get left behind. Why don't we take all of you and TCU, which was kind of homeless."

Luck's plan, which also had the support of Louisville athletic Tom Jurich, was also to add UCF for a 12-team Big East divided into two divisions: West: Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, TCU and Louisville; East: UConn, Cincinnati, Rutgers, West Virginia, South Florida and UCF.

"I remember thinking: 'That's not a bad conference,'" Luck said. "And we would have kept the affiliation with the (Big East) basketball schools, because they loved the addition of Kansas. They (the Big 12 schools) also liked it. They were nervous as hell, too. We had a series of phone calls. That was sort of our best option."

Luck said he had three or four phone discussions with the Big 12 schools. Then-Big East commissioner John Marinatto was not involved in the discussions and no formal offer was extended, but the Big 12 schools -- if left behind by the schools headed to the Pac-12 -- were prepared for the merger.

"At that point in time, we were ready to flip the switch," Currie said.

Of course, the merger never happened. Although Texas A&M and Missouri left the Big 12 for the SEC, Texas and Oklahoma remained in the Big 12. The Big 12 survived, but the Big East eventually lost a number of schools, including -- ironically -- West Virginia to the Big 12 a year later.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ions-expansion

Prison Bitch 06-11-2014 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10682814)
But.. but Syracuse forfeited the rivalry by leaving the conference!

Looks like both teams want to play, a condition not present with KU-Mizzou, Duke-Maryland, or Texas-A&M.

WhawhaWhat 06-11-2014 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 10684130)
Interesting story on how it could have shaped up if Texas had gone to the Pac 12:



http://espn.go.com/college-football/...ions-expansion

Big East would still have had an amazing basketball conference. I wonder if the tournament would still have been permanently in MSG or if they would alternated between NYC and KC.


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