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duncan_idaho 07-22-2021 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 15750565)
:hmmm: Didn't Mizzou go to the SEC championship game in 2 of its first 3 seasons in the SEC?

If the Big 12 was such a joke of a conference that left teams "unprepared", why did a middling Big 12 team go over and have so much instant success?
The issue wasn't the Big 12 not preparing Missouri.

The issues were:

1) Missouri's coaching staff did a poor job adjusting it's recruiting strategy. It overreacted to the SEC move and moved into Georgia and Florida too quickly. It also didn't effectively adopt a strategy to sell Midwest kids (Missouri, Iowa, Kansas, Illinois, Chicago) on the idea of playing in the SEC (Kentucky has had great success with this in Ohio, amongst kids left behind by Ohio State).

2) The university replaced the mostly competent AD with a complete buffoon who mishandled the difficult 2015 protests, and made several bad decisions in the wake of that (forcing Pinkel out then; hiring Barry Odom; forcing Odom to agree to dismantle the player development system in place and also forcing the strength coach behind that program out).

3) Odom was a failure in recruiting and as an on-field coach.

All indications are they got it right with Drinkwitz, and he's rapidly changing the picture/scene.

Basketball is an example of what happens when you make a bad hire, then double down on it with the worst hire in the past quarter century in your sport, then come back from it by overpaying for a really mediocre guy.

ChiefsCountry 07-22-2021 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15750606)
Iowa State has the academic pedigree and the in-state relationship with U of I that could make them desirable to the Big 10. In fact, they might be the most likely candidate right now.
Iowa State is very attractive if you think like an University president would. Very good academic school with research. Great fan base, good facilities all around.

Matrix 07-22-2021 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15750362)
Right. That is why last time this came up the Pac12 and B1G came calling asking KU to join up.

MU made a mistake leaving the B12 as did Nebraska and Colorado. None have faired better in their new conferences. Hope the Texas envy was worth it.
Look at a Kansas fan trying to rationalize his place in a dying conference.

ntexascardfan 07-22-2021 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15750371)
It’s all about eyes added.
I'm willing to bet adding Texas to the SEC adds more eyeballs than all the teams that were mentioned in the post I quoted combined.

You're lying to yourself if you don't believe this isn't being driven by ESPN wanting to form a super conference that's going to blow revenue out of the water.

This decision isn't made without the blessing or instigation of the mothership.

Kellerfox 07-22-2021 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ntexascardfan (Post 15750850)
I'm willing to bet adding Texas to the SEC adds more eyeballs than all the teams that were mentioned in the post I quoted combined.

You're lying to yourself if you don't believe this isn't being driven by ESPN wanting to form a super conference that's going to blow revenue out of the water.

This decision isn't made without the blessing or instigation of the mothership.
Building on that...

ESPN already controls UVA and UNC's exclusive media rights through 2035. Right now they share UT/OU's rights with Fox. ESPN gains a LOT more adding UT than any school from the ACC.

Sassy Squatch 07-22-2021 02:43 PM
Not even ESPN. Mickey Mouse

Kiimo 07-22-2021 02:48 PM
I would be totally fine with KU in the Big 10, Self would own Chicago recruiting and the games against Michigan, MSU, Indiana, etc would be amazing.

It also opens up an whole new avenue of football recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt that Leipold has history all over Wisconsin and Nebraska

RustShack 07-22-2021 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 15750873)
I would be totally fine with KU in the Big 10, Self would own Chicago recruiting and the games against Michigan, MSU, Indiana, etc would be amazing.

It also opens up an whole new avenue of football recruiting. It certainly doesn't hurt that Leipold has history all over Wisconsin and Nebraska
I’d love KU and ISU going to the B1G. I think Iowa and Iowa State fans would also enjoy not playing each other non-con every year, and giving the game more meaning being a conference game. We’d get to beat on Nebraska too, so that would be fun.

RustShack 07-22-2021 03:31 PM
This moving fast, as I'm getting calls, texts and e-mails now saying #Pac12 wants to add #OKState, #TexasTech, #KState and #ISU to go to 16 teams and those four in division with #SunDevils, #BearDown, #Utes and #Buffs.

Edit- This was from “Swain” on Twitter, whoever that is.

RustShack 07-22-2021 04:23 PM
Texas and Oklahoma were not in attendance for the emergency Big12 meeting today.

Buckle up boys.

POND_OF_RED 07-22-2021 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 15751042)
Texas and Oklahoma were not in attendance for the emergency Big12 meeting today.

Buckle up boys.
Not sure a seat belt is gonna help much at this point. RIP Big 12.
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GloucesterChief 07-22-2021 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Kellerfox (Post 15750370)
IF UT + OU leave and IF the PAC decides to add schools, Texas Tech has a seat at that table. Tech has a strong history and partnership with the two AZ schools (shared a conference for decades) as well as CU (hours up the road and Big12 history). Geographically, that cluster of 4 would be easy travel. Tech has forged pretty strong relations with other PAC leaders over the last few rounds of re-alignment conversation. Tech has been deliberately scheduling non-con games with PAC teams. Tech also adds quite a bit of value in track, baseball, and basketball… all areas that the PAC wants to shore up. Tech isn’t big enough or strong enough to force realignment like OU and UT… but with a drastic shift in the landscape I think they have a life raft out of the Remnants of the Big12.

So, if the PAC does expand and we assume Tech is in… that leaves 1-3 spots depending on if they go to 14 or 16. There aren’t a lot of great candidates. BU, TCU, and BYU are hard no’s due to religious affiliation (non starter for the PAC).

Maybe they pull from Houston, Colorado State, San Diego State, Boise State, or UNLV…

But some combo OSU, KU, KSU, and ISU just feels better if I’m the PAC despite the geographic distance. That assumes that those schools are available. Certainly understand the BIG being a lot more appealing to KU/ISU/KSU if the offer is there.
PAC wants tier 1 research universities with strong graduate programs. It is the reason why Air Force was never considered to join the PAC.

sedated 07-22-2021 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 15751067)
Not sure a seat belt is gonna help much at this point. RIP Big 12.
If Texas and Oklahoma left, its better if the Big 12 dies anyway - they would never be considered a P5 conference no matter who they add.

sedated 07-22-2021 04:52 PM
I remember before the last realignment there were strong rumors that Florida State and Clemson were interested in jumping to the Big 12. Louisville was available too, I believe. One more and that would have made a hell of a conference.

Prison Bitch 07-22-2021 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 15750963)
This moving fast, as I'm getting calls, texts and e-mails now saying #Pac12 wants to add #OKState, #TexasTech, #KState and #ISU to go to 16 teams and those four in division with #SunDevils, #BearDown, #Utes and #Buffs.

Edit- This was from “Swain” on Twitter, whoever that is.

The idea Cali schools want these crappy Plains programs is too laughable for me to believe.

If Kansas ever did leave, I’d lose a lot of interest in their games. Playing long term opponents in our region is half the fun of watching and I know a lot of folks from all these local schools.


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