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Sassy Squatch 07-22-2021 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15750362)
Right. That is why last time this came up the Pac12 and B1G came calling asking KU to join up.

MU made a mistake leaving the B12 as did Nebraska and Colorado. None have faired better in their new conferences. Hope the Texas envy was worth it.

Uhh. No, they didn't, judging by what's happening now.

lawrenceRaider 07-22-2021 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15750438)
Uhh. No, they didn't, judging by what's happening now.

This wouldn't be happening now if they had stayed.

Also, it will be a massive mistake for Texas especially to head to the SEC. They can't really compete in the B12.

POND_OF_RED 07-22-2021 11:13 AM

If Oklahoma and Texas join the SEC it’s going to create a comedic free-for-all save yourself landscape for the rest of the teams.
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Sassy Squatch 07-22-2021 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15750448)
This wouldn't be happening now if they had stayed.

Also, it will be a massive mistake for Texas especially to head to the SEC. They can't really compete in the B12.

Disagree. Texas's constant flirtations with the PAC 10/12 back in the early 2010s is what led to this. After that why wouldn't the other schools GTFO and head for greener pastures.

htismaqe 07-22-2021 11:17 AM

Quality of the on-field product is just one facet of the whole picture.

Nebraska is in WAY better shape now than when they were in the B12. Way better.

htismaqe 07-22-2021 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15750448)
This wouldn't be happening now if they had stayed.

Also, it will be a massive mistake for Texas especially to head to the SEC. They can't really compete in the B12.

It would be a massive mistake for Texas to leave the Big 12, period. They essentially run the conference right now. They'd have to actually share and collaborate if they joined another conference.

The teams that left left for good reason. The Big 12 is not a conference, it's a pyramid scheme.

Hoover 07-22-2021 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15750461)
Quality of the on-field product is just one facet of the whole picture.

Nebraska is in WAY better shape now than when they were in the B12. Way better.

Exactly.

Yeah they might not be as competitive in the BIG 10 but at least that conference is solid as a rock. I think we are headed to 3 or 4 large conferences, no more power 5, and in doing so they are going to govern themselves as a league. NCAA is nothing more than a playoff bracket and tournament organizer.

Not to make this political, but the driver in this is just as much COVID than it is TV contracts.

tredadda 07-22-2021 11:52 AM

Not going to be a popular thing to say but I see no reason for the Big 10 to bring in KU. Not really adding much in regards to audience, basketball won't be a driving force as evidenced with the teams in the Big East, and KU is probably going to be saddled with KState.

Sassy Squatch 07-22-2021 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 15750532)
Not going to be a popular thing to say but I see no reason for the Big 10 to bring in KU. Not really adding much in regards to audience, basketball won't be a driving force as evidenced with the teams in the Big East, and KU is probably going to be saddled with KState.

AAU School as well. That along with the Basketball program would probably be enough to make them the most desirable. Assuming this leads to an arms race to 16 teams in each conference, of course.

duncan_idaho 07-22-2021 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 15750448)
This wouldn't be happening now if they had stayed.

Also, it will be a massive mistake for Texas especially to head to the SEC. They can't really compete in the B12.

What is happening now is the reason Missouri left when it did.

Texas was never going to commit to anything other than Texas. Missouri saw an opportunity to secure its own destiny/place, and took it.

Because this was always going to come around again. At some point, UT would decide it could get a better deal for itself elsewhere. And rather than risk getting stuck fighting desperately for a few spot in a new B1G or new ACC or new PAC.

The whole realignment scenario exposed just how fragile the Big 12 was. For the same reasons that led the Big 8 to expand in the 90s.

KU will be fine. Oklahoma and Texas will be fine. It's all the other schools that will be left scrambling. I feel for them and their fans.

sedated 07-22-2021 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED (Post 15750308)
It was eye-opening realizing how far behind the competitive level was in the Big 12 and how little it prepared us for a tough week in-week out real conference

:hmmm: Didn't Mizzou go to the SEC championship game in 2 of its first 3 seasons in the SEC?

If the Big 12 was such a joke of a conference that left teams "unprepared", why did a middling Big 12 team go over and have so much instant success?

POND_OF_RED 07-22-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated (Post 15750565)
:hmmm: Didn't Mizzou go to the SEC championship game in 2 of its first 3 seasons in the SEC?

If the Big 12 was such a joke of a conference that left teams "unprepared", why did a middling Big 12 team go over and have so much instant success?

Because we still had the same coaching staff and recruits without any turnover at that point. The SEC East was pretty weak the first couple seasons we were there with Georgia and Florida. It was like the Big 12 North. Make no mistake, Mizzou lucked into those championship games. They have always been a mid-tier team in football. Pinkel was way overrated by Mizzou fans. He was the Marty Schottenheimer of the Tigers program. Never won anything big, but a consistent winner toward the middle-top of the league. I do think the SEC move and Odom debacle slowed down what the end game was, but I think we’re starting to see what a good coach can do in the SEC with his recruiting already so the future is definitely looking much brighter for them now. They put together another promising season like last year and then get that top 20 recruiting class in here, the wheels could really get turning.

ChiefsCountry 07-22-2021 12:35 PM

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htismaqe 07-22-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15750551)
What is happening now is the reason Missouri left when it did.

Texas was never going to commit to anything other than Texas. Missouri saw an opportunity to secure its own destiny/place, and took it.

Because this was always going to come around again. At some point, UT would decide it could get a better deal for itself elsewhere. And rather than risk getting stuck fighting desperately for a few spot in a new B1G or new ACC or new PAC.

The whole realignment scenario exposed just how fragile the Big 12 was. For the same reasons that led the Big 8 to expand in the 90s.

KU will be fine. Oklahoma and Texas will be fine. It's all the other schools that will be left scrambling. I feel for them and their fans.

Iowa State has the academic pedigree and the in-state relationship with U of I that could make them desirable to the Big 10. In fact, they might be the most likely candidate right now.

Sassy Squatch 07-22-2021 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15750606)
Iowa State has the academic pedigree and the in-state relationship with U of I that could make them desirable to the Big 10. In fact, they might be the most likely candidate right now.

Yeah. Unless Iowa wants to block them for whatever reason KU and ISU just seem to make the most sense. Both AAU with a blue blood Basketball program and emerging football program respectively.


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