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Hey guys, if the kicker makes that kick Josh Allen would have a chance to MAYBE win...maybe.
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LMAO Remember when Allen almost lost a QB duel to Skylar ****ing Thompson? In the playoffs?
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What did Mahomes do in the AFC championship when Hardman gifted the bills a 9-0 lead? Won the rest of the game 38-15. What did he do in the 13 second game which would have been over long before the end if Butker didn’t leave 4 points on the field? Kept on scoring. How many scoring drives did Allen lead last season in the second half once the Chiefs took a 27-24 lead? Zero. Only one even got into Chiefs territory. |
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And his kicker duffed it anyway. What I know is that in 3 drives in the 4th quarter of a game he was losing by 3, Allen managed zero points. DickLix wants to bitch about Tyler Bass but neglects to mention that Mecole Hardman fumbling at the 1 yard line was all that kept that from being a coronation for the last 10 minutes of the game either way. Allen had plenty of opportunities to win that game before Bass lost it. He failed. |
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It wasn't going to overtime. If Bass hits the kick, Mahomes takes it down the field and finishes what he started. Unlike Allen. Who's claim to fame is almost winning a playoff game before the better QB nipped him at the line. Again. |
Don’t want to listen to me? Fine. Listen to MVP voters;
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Listen to the MVP voters?
How many MVPs has Josh Allen won? |
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Last season Mahomes beat three higher seeded teams in one playoff including the Bills of course. Something Allen has still never done. Keep coping in fantasy land. |
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Yeah, this isn't even fun anymore. It's pretty clear by your pathetic attempts to fantasize about Allen on the Chiefs and this appeal to authority to Emmanuel ****ing Ocho that your heart just really isn't into it.
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Or the fact that on two consecutive plays prior to the missed field goal Allen tried really hard to give us a defensive TD. On second down he threw a for certain pick 6 to Sneed that McDuffie broke up. The very next play he had a terrible fumble which was so close to being recovered, perhaps for a TD. |
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Jim Johnson was Andy's DC in Philly at the time, he actually passed away prior to 2009\2010(?) season. Most at the time pointed to him (Jim) being the required piece that Andy needed and was instrumental in a lot of the success Andy had at the time. Are we forgetting the 2015 season already!? Alex Smith and the Chiefs taking on Bobby Hoyer and the Houston Texans in Houston and whooping them 30-0? Knile Davis taking the opening kickoff 100 yards to a TD! A lot of us old-timers were in tears after that game washing away the 0-8 playoff record since 1993 season. Mahomes did end up breaking the 'Home Playoff' drought but let us not forget our humble beginnings. I've checked on the "You're a ****ing moron." part and it appears you are correct on that one so carry-on. |
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The Chiefs were getting the ball back with, at worst, 90 seconds left, and two timeouts. They would have just gone and gotten into FG range and ended it that way, even if Bass makes it. |
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When the only thing that kept us from putting up a TD was clock management. Mahomes was winning that game. It's why I say I wish that Garapollo would've actually hit that throw to Emmanuel Sanders. Mahomes would've come back down the field and taken the lead back. I'm sure of that. I wouldn't have cared if Diggs would've caught that ball and housed it - Mahomes wasn't losing that game. He'd have marched them down the field for the winning TD if he had to. All some of these things have ever done is take away chances for more Mahomes greatness. |
LMAO Yep. That's why it's so hilarious to see Diqlix in here whining about Bass when Allen was ****ing up repeatedly on that drive.
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Josh Allen is too stupid to win a Super Bowl, Diqlix. And you know it.
It wouldn't surprise me at all if he had a Brett Favre moment where he asked one of the backup QBs, "Okay, wait... what's a nickel defense again?" If the situations were reversed and Allen played for Andy, I think it'd be like Favre in Green Bay. MAYBE Andy carries his dumb ass to one ring. But as for all of these tight close games where Mahomes has HAD to be great? You really think Josh has the smarts to make the right decision with the ball that quickly and also the mental courage to not psych himself out? And if you think that, show me ANY other "gotta have it game" where Josh Allen came through for you in the clutch other than 13 seconds (a game he ****ing lost lol). As for basically winning all of Mahomes' rings? All three? ****ing miss me with that shit. Josh has Stupid QB Syndrome, diqlix. I'm very sorry. |
He had his chance in January to slay that demon and beat Mahomes in a playoff game. The best he could muster was a game tying FG attempt with over a minute and a half left of game time for the Chiefs to respond
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And in a perfect world Burro has the higher IQ and ceiling but he's a notoriously slow starter that's pretty beat up. Wouldn't shock me if he went full Andrew Luck in a few years. Oddly enough Allen's body has held up to the insane beating he's been putting it through. That won't last forever but it has surprisingly well so far... |
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Big, athletic, strong-armed, erratic accuracy, questionable decision-making. Reid can do a lot with a guy like that. And yeah, he's probably better now than he was then. He'd probably do MORE with Allen than he did with McNabb. But how much? Get to 2 Super Bowls instead of just 1? Win one of the two instead of lose the one he actually made it to? Okay. I can buy that. If the Bills had taken Mahomes and the Chiefs Allen, perhaps the resumes would be a bit closer. I do think Reid probably gets a championship done with Allen. And I question just how much McDermott could've won with Mahomes. But I absolutely think the Bills manage a title in 2020 or 2021 with Mahomes. They damn sure don't lose to the friggen Texans in 2019. They don't turtle up and quit against the Bengals in the Divisional round in 2022. Undoubtedly the question is CLOSER if the two guys switched sides. But if you put Allen on the Chiefs, the team isn't as good as it is with Mahomes on the Chiefs. It just isn't. And if you put Mahomes on the Bills, they win MORE than they've won with Allen. Do situations have something to do with how WIDE the resume gap between the respective players is? Sure. But ceteris paribus, Patrick Mahomes is going to give you better outcomes every time than Josh Allen. |
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I've said it repeatedly - Allen is the only guy in the NFL who's A game is on par with Mahomes A game. He can trade punches with Mahomes over a 1-game sample size. And one day it might even be enough to beat him when it matters. But how you play on your B, C and D games matters. Or in Allen's case, his F games (because Mahomes has had one F half in his entire career). And in that regard, it's Mahomes in a walk. |
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The difference between Josh and Lamar last playoffs was the Buffalo coaching staff was smart enough to not have Josh passing much against the Chiefs D. They knew Allen would get confused and make too many dumb mistakes if he was asked to play like a Mahomes. So Allen was instructed to just dump the ball off if he was confused and that was one of the great last gifts Daboll left the Buffalo B team offensive coaches with regards to Allen. |
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Cam Newton was also a big, physical QB who ran for a lot of tough yards and goal line carries like a fullback.
His career ended fast once he was past age 30. |
If Hardman does not fumble, it's a boat race daquix, so cry about the FG all you want
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Don't forget the missed illegal forward pass in the first quarter.
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Run him like a dog, we got Tribsky -cud chewers
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HAHAHA! Nice bump.
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You know damn well daquix uses that aging software on a Mahomes picture to cosplay Allen being NFL king
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Joshua will have his stinkers as the season rolls on. Remember, he played against a lousy cards defensive line so he felt no pressure throughout the game. We all remember how invisible he was against the Rams a couple of years back only to revert to his old mistake-prone self. Guy is hot and cold. And a mixture of both. This is the least talented roster he's been a part of. We will have a clear picture of where the Bills stand these next five weeks with games against: Dolphins, Jags, Ravens, Texans, Jets.
I see at best a 2–4 team on the horizon. |
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Best Bills team ever? LMAO Thanks for providing a solid post to bump when you and the rest of your fanbase are once again crying that "Superman" has to do everything himself (this sentiment is typically widely adopted immediately following the annual playoff loss to the Chiefs). |
Imagine having to resort to designed QB runs to beat the Cardinals. I get Lamar going all out on KC but to need every ounce of it to beat one of the 3 worst teams in the league? Allen injured running around like an idiot after 1 game? Uh oh
Meanwhile KC will take it slow all season and have juice left for a 3 peat... |
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When Chiefs fans want change, they make it happen (banners, blackouts). Bills Mafia just sobs and continues forking over their paychecks. 17 years without a playoff appearance? A fanbase that accepts mediocrity deserves mediocrity. |
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Who cares about what they inherited? That was 7 years ago. Allen's teams have been just as talented or more so the last few years. Nothing but early exits for Allen and two SBs in that span for Mahomes. Unbiased sources rated several of Allen's rosters as comparable or better to several of KC's. Sure, Mahomes had a loaded offense his first few years, but Allen sucked at that point anyway and couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. Allen's defenses have always been far better than Mahomes' until last season. And last season Allen's offensive talent was better. You claim that Allen inherited one of the worst situations eVEr, and yet that roster went to the playoffs the year before, with TYROD TAYLOR. In Mahomes' first season, he doubled Alex Smith's numbers (after Smith had by far his best stats ever). Allen's numbers were far WORSE than Tyrod Taylor's the year before. As mentioned, nobody considered Reid a genius or a massive advantage before Mahomes arrived. He was considered a solid offensive mind who was very flawed in other areas, and a postseason choker. Oh, and there's that little detail that he was fired by Philadelphia. Usually you don't fire HOF coaches that give you a massive advantage over other teams. Last I checked anyway. Verdict: EPIC FAIL |
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One of his leaps is going to meet an upward thrust of an arm or hand. One too many times
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Imagine living during the time of an actual NFL dynasty in the Kansas City Chiefs and you have to pretend the shitty Bills are good.
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So who wins tomorrow night?
Should be a great game. |
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I find it amusing that Buffalo fan will take a massive shit on their team while defending Josh Allen.
"Josh Allen would have XXX titles if the Chiefs drafted him" Well, yeah. Thanks for admitting our team is better, and has been the whole time. |
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They know they aren't winning shit so they are now Josh super fans and are creating their own storylines about how he is better than Mahomes, just needs better coaching, players, defense, etc Of course if he really was even equal to Mahomes they should have zero excuses. Mahomes has won with weapons and without. With no defense and last year with defense. Josh Allen normally chokes. |
Buffalo has declined so much it took running like an idiot getting himself hurt hero ball for Joshy to beat Kyler and the worst roster in football at home...wow
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Remember these are normally teams Buffalo runs up the score on...Remember them bragging about "point differential"?
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Alex Smith had many apologists. Is it really surprising that Josh has them too?
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They're fixated on his physical traits while forgetting that the mental aspect is equally important. And he's way behind there. Cracks me up that they blame every Bills failure on the supporting cast when Allen is one of the most mistake-prone QBs in recent history. |
Did Miami's defense get better? If not they lose, again.
Beta Tagovagiola I'd be so ****ing pissed off if we had Tyreek Hill and were wasting him on that guy. Alex Smith would be better. |
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Just trying to keep your logic consistent. Allen failed to get them into the endzone and was forced to depend on a shitty kicker in a high pressure situation. You can't tell me that anyone in that stadium had faith in that kick. Hard to say Allen did his job on that drive. Not to mention he even tried to give the game away with a fumble and was damn lucky it was recovered, thanks to a Chiefs blunder. Also, remember when he led his team to 10 points at home the year before, and got blown out? Remember when he threw 3 INTs in 2 playoff games in '22? Or when he completed just 52% of his passes in 2019? Mahomes has rarely been supported by a good running attack, rarely been supported by good defense, and his offensive supporting cast has made numerous mistakes in playoff games. Turnovers, drops, etc. This narrative is so desperate and laughable. |
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1) A well-respected coach who couldn't win the big one and was a renowned playoff choke artist. 2) One of the best Tight Ends in the game, but definitely not Hall-of-Fame bound yet. 3) Also one of the best WR's in the league, but definitely not Hall-of-Fame bound yet. 4) Correct, but our playoff record in that time was 1-4. We were the doormat of the NFL for the actual playoff contenders. We were pretenders. 5) ONE (1) playoff win against Brain Hoyer. Mahomes was drafted to what was considered a good, but not great team. Once he became the starting QB, everything changed. 1) Andy went from a playoff choke artist to the best Head Coach in the league destined for the HOF 2) Kelce's playoff heroics with Mahomes quickly had fans considering him next to Gronk as one of the GOAT Tight Ends. 3) Same with Tyreek. Mahomes exploited his speed and ability to stretch defenses like no other. Tyreek went from one of the best WR's in the game to one of the most dangerous offensive threats of all time. 4) We went from regularly being one-and-done losers in the playoffs to only ever going to Super Bowls and Championship Games w/ Mahomes. 5) The Chiefs playoff record from 2013-2017 was 1-4. The Chiefs playoff once Mahomes became starting QB is 15-3. Those numbers don't make themselves up. Mahomes was the one that changed everything. |
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Doesn't quite jive with "one of the absolute worst situations." And McDermott is a very solid coach, despite making a few questionable decisions in the playoffs. The extent to which they throw him under the bus to prop up Allen is kind of sick. |
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Anytime you want to have the conversation, we can put down the three Lombardi trophies from the last five seasons and have it. I guess? *edit - I see others have educated you, and there never really was a conversation to begin with |
This conversation happens every era.
“If John Elway was on those 49er teams they win at least 5 rings” “If Jim Kelly or Dan Marino was on those Cowboys 90’s teams he’d win 3 rings minimum” “If Peyton Manning was the QB for the Patriots instead of Tom they’d have won as many or more rings than Tom Brady” I agree that the Bills are holding Josh Allen back with bad coaching and bad drafts but that’s the reality. |
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If you can't win a championship, you're a lesser player. If we've learned NOTHING over the last 2 years, we should've learned that. Mahomes willed this team to those titles. Maybe Allen wins one of 'em...but I kinda don't think he does. Mahomes had to be so precise and so timely in his efforts that I think it gets overlooked just how incredible he was in those games. That Eagles game may be the best Super Bowl ever played in terms of pure quality of play by both sides. And Mahomes came out on top. Marino wouldn't have. Kelly wouldn't have. Allen, IMO, wouldn't have. Winning a ring doesn't put you in the conversation with the all time greats {cough}Aikman{coughcough} but not winning one keeps you out of it. Mahomes would've won a championship in Buffalo by now. Because he's that !@#$ing good. |
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Daboll is a very good offensive coach who developed Josh and he’s likely to be fired for the same reason Nagy did: his QB is among the worst in the league and chaining him down. Doug Pederson is a really good offensive coach that might be cut loose and would be a huge upgrade. Ben Johnson and Bobby Slowik Jr look like excellent up and coming offensive coaches that could be poached. Josh Allen is undoubtedly QB2 in this league right now and could get them to come coach you. Frank Smith and Wes Phillips are also good options who have done a hell of a job for their teams offenses. There’s no excuses anymore. Bills can either change or choose to stay the same wasting Allen’s career. |
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If Mahomes is with Buffalo, McDermott would be considered a top coach in the league with multiple championships. If Allen is with KC, Reid’s reputation of choking in the playoffs would still be a thing. |
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If (when) he gets fired, he'll deserve it. The league writ large needs to move on from Doug Pederson: Head Coach. It's not gonna happen. |
Allen was drafted into one of the absolute WORST situations.
This is so stupid it demonstrates someone who knows nothing about the NFL or the other teams in it besides the BEELZ. You want worse? Try going to the NY Jets. If Darnold went to Buffalo and Allen went to NY there is a good chance Darnold gets the big contract and Allen is a new Blake Bortles. Daboll was the best possible developer for Allen. He built an offense for him when Allen had major flaws and weaknesses. |
Allen had a top defense multiple times and STILL pissed down his legs in the postseason and that's a fact daquix
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There’s a GOAT level defensive coach available: Belichick. His defense unquestionably played a major role in winning 8 rings as HC & DC. |
It's time to stretch those table muscles down around Hard Rock Stadium
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"Why does our #1 defense get fisted in the playoffs?" Well, your answer is shown above. |
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Didn't seem to get them any hardware, though. This ain't NASCAR fellas - you don't get any points for the post-season because you won a game in the regular season. |
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Now we know. |
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