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BWillie 08-27-2024 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17650301)
Devils advocate hype train:

He was only a WR for 2 years of his life before getting drafted. Those 2 years were for a small school with small coaching.

He went into one of the toughest systems for WRs to pick up at the NFL level. Couple that with his only 2 years in a small school and it’s probably reasonable to expect him to be a little behind in development.

This shows in his overall field awareness and the amount of time he doesn’t “play fast”. If they can get him to a point he’s not thinking so much (and after the fumbles, probably overthinking everything) maybe we see the kid develop into the player some of us thought he could be coming out (Welker and Edelman).

To the credit of those initial comparisons of “upside” to those 2 greats, here are those 2s stats and Moores over their first 2 seasons in the nfl:

Welker
29 catches, 434 yards. 0 touchdowns

Edelman
44 catches, 444 yards, 1 touchdown.

Skyy Moore
43 catches, 494 yards, 1 touchdown (not counting playoffs.)

If these coaches can turn Skyy into a player that allows us to let Hollywood walk after this season and would allow us to use draft resources at other need positions to further bolster the roster…that would be huge. It would give Veach flexibility to make a big move now or during next years draft when we have the extra pick for Sneed.

Of, as Veach says, take a BIG swing.

What a high quality and positive post about Skyy. Would love to see him not suck but I can't even say we've seen glimpses. I bet the aforementioned players fans saw glimpses in those first two seasons. Obv hope he balls out. Seems like a good kid.

DJ's left nut 08-27-2024 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17650301)
Devils advocate hype train:

He was only a WR for 2 years of his life before getting drafted. Those 2 years were for a small school with small coaching.

He went into one of the toughest systems for WRs to pick up at the NFL level. Couple that with his only 2 years in a small school and it’s probably reasonable to expect him to be a little behind in development.

This shows in his overall field awareness and the amount of time he doesn’t “play fast”. If they can get him to a point he’s not thinking so much (and after the fumbles, probably overthinking everything) maybe we see the kid develop into the player some of us thought he could be coming out (Welker and Edelman).

To the credit of those initial comparisons of “upside” to those 2 greats, here are those 2s stats and Moores over their first 2 seasons in the nfl:

Welker
29 catches, 434 yards. 0 touchdowns

Edelman
44 catches, 444 yards, 1 touchdown.

Skyy Moore
43 catches, 494 yards, 1 touchdown (not counting playoffs.)

If these coaches can turn Skyy into a player that allows us to let Hollywood walk after this season and would allow us to use draft resources at other need positions to further bolster the roster…that would be huge. It would give Veach flexibility to make a big move now or during next years draft when we have the extra pick for Sneed.

Of, as Veach says, take a BIG swing.

No.

All of it.

Just...no.

Dude is hot spiced ass.

Bump 08-27-2024 11:51 PM

Welker was a really good route runner and Edelman had the fast as **** feetwork.

Skyy doesn't have anything.

But I don't think it's a big deal, if they don't want to give up on their 2nd round pick yet then okay. Maybe there's a tiny chance he could improve and give us a 500 yard season in his 4th year or something like that.

The rest of the receiver room looks stacked and it should be way better than last year. Worthy and Rice are going to explode! Then you have some veterans that will be making some plays. This offense is going to look a lot better.

BossChief 08-27-2024 11:52 PM

Devils advocate, continued…

In his third season, Wes had 687 yards on 67 catches and 1 tuddy.

In years 4-5, he caught a combined for 223 catches for 2341 yards and 11 tuddies. 5 consecutive pro bowls and 2 all pro teams.

***

Edelman didn’t start to show promise till his 5th year. In his 5th and 6th years combined, he had 2028 yards snd 10tds.

The best coaches in the league must see something in him to keep him around and im hoping they’re right!

*** devils advocate over

I don’t see what these coaches are with Skyy and I was a fan of the pick. I think he should be cut, along with the rest of the bums.

Buehler445 08-28-2024 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 17650301)
Devils advocate hype train:

He was only a WR for 2 years of his life before getting drafted. Those 2 years were for a small school with small coaching.

He went into one of the toughest systems for WRs to pick up at the NFL level. Couple that with his only 2 years in a small school and it’s probably reasonable to expect him to be a little behind in development.

This shows in his overall field awareness and the amount of time he doesn’t “play fast”. If they can get him to a point he’s not thinking so much (and after the fumbles, probably overthinking everything) maybe we see the kid develop into the player some of us thought he could be coming out (Welker and Edelman).

To the credit of those initial comparisons of “upside” to those 2 greats, here are those 2s stats and Moores over their first 2 seasons in the nfl:

Welker
29 catches, 434 yards. 0 touchdowns

Edelman
44 catches, 444 yards, 1 touchdown.

Skyy Moore
43 catches, 494 yards, 1 touchdown (not counting playoffs.)

If these coaches can turn Skyy into a player that allows us to let Hollywood walk after this season and would allow us to use draft resources at other need positions to further bolster the roster…that would be huge. It would give Veach flexibility to make a big move now or during next years draft when we have the extra pick for Sneed.

Of, as Veach says, take a BIG swing.


I like the effort. It is a gallant effort.

Now do the corresponding snap counts and targets.

BWillie 08-28-2024 09:34 AM

Skyy Moore has a great smile.

DJ's left nut 08-28-2024 09:57 AM

I still think more of this stuff comes down to "I like that guy" than we think.

With every bizarre coaching hire (or non-hire) I'm more and more convinced that some guys can just get in a room and blow an owners skirt up. They say the right stuff in the right way. May not be able to coach for shit, but by God they can sell.

And when you're looking at the bottom 5-8 spots on a roster, I'm guessing some of it really does come down to "I like that guy". And it's easy to see why Toney would be hard to like.

So you joke, but shit man, "Skyy has a great smile" MAY just be the reason he's on the roster. The coaches like the guy as he's sitting there with a big grin after spending an entire meeting taking notes, making good eye contact and looking really engaged.

He LOOKS the part of someone you want to succeed.

Then comes gameday and it all just disappears.

But man, "Skyy has a great smile" is as close to a sensible reason as actually exists for him to be on an NFL roster at this point. He's done everything possible to lose the job and has blown MASSIVE opportunities in his first two seasons. So what else is left?

Mecca 08-28-2024 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17650757)
I still think more of this stuff comes down to "I like that guy" than we think.

With every bizarre coaching hire (or non-hire) I'm more and more convinced that some guys can just get in a room and blow an owners skirt up. They say the right stuff in the right way. May not be able to coach for shit, but by God they can sell.

And when you're looking at the bottom 5-8 spots on a roster, I'm guessing some of it really does come down to "I like that guy". And it's easy to see why Toney would be hard to like.

So you joke, but shit man, "Skyy has a great smile" MAY just be the reason he's on the roster. The coaches like the guy as he's sitting there with a big grin after spending an entire meeting taking notes, making good eye contact and looking really engaged.

He LOOKS the part of someone you want to succeed.

Then comes gameday and it all just disappears.

But man, "Skyy has a great smile" is as close to a sensible reason as actually exists for him to be on an NFL roster at this point. He's done everything possible to lose the job and has blown MASSIVE opportunities in his first two seasons. So what else is left?

I mean possibly, he's lucky the guy he was competing with did stupid things off the field because his biggest plus is well Skyy Moore won't say anything, he won't post stupid shit online.

-King- 08-28-2024 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17650757)
I still think more of this stuff comes down to "I like that guy" than we think.

With every bizarre coaching hire (or non-hire) I'm more and more convinced that some guys can just get in a room and blow an owners skirt up. They say the right stuff in the right way. May not be able to coach for shit, but by God they can sell.

And when you're looking at the bottom 5-8 spots on a roster, I'm guessing some of it really does come down to "I like that guy". And it's easy to see why Toney would be hard to like.

So you joke, but shit man, "Skyy has a great smile" MAY just be the reason he's on the roster. The coaches like the guy as he's sitting there with a big grin after spending an entire meeting taking notes, making good eye contact and looking really engaged.

He LOOKS the part of someone you want to succeed.

Then comes gameday and it all just disappears.

But man, "Skyy has a great smile" is as close to a sensible reason as actually exists for him to be on an NFL roster at this point. He's done everything possible to lose the job and has blown MASSIVE opportunities in his first two seasons. So what else is left?

This is what I figured with Clyde. I was watching some superbowl celebration videos and players clearly love the hell out of him and he seems like a guy people like having around. Hes like a big brother to guys like Pacheco and a little brother to guys like Kelce. And the Chiefs media and social media people clearly like him. I bet he has the same effect on coaches and FO.

I guess if you can't produce, you might as well be the most friendly guy and overall good guy to be around. It works in regular life so why wouldn't it work in football.

Bowser 08-28-2024 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17650757)
I still think more of this stuff comes down to "I like that guy" than we think.

With every bizarre coaching hire (or non-hire) I'm more and more convinced that some guys can just get in a room and blow an owners skirt up. They say the right stuff in the right way. May not be able to coach for shit, but by God they can sell.

And when you're looking at the bottom 5-8 spots on a roster, I'm guessing some of it really does come down to "I like that guy". And it's easy to see why Toney would be hard to like.

So you joke, but shit man, "Skyy has a great smile" MAY just be the reason he's on the roster. The coaches like the guy as he's sitting there with a big grin after spending an entire meeting taking notes, making good eye contact and looking really engaged.

He LOOKS the part of someone you want to succeed.

Then comes gameday and it all just disappears.

But man, "Skyy has a great smile" is as close to a sensible reason as actually exists for him to be on an NFL roster at this point. He's done everything possible to lose the job and has blown MASSIVE opportunities in his first two seasons. So what else is left?

Gehrig Deiter v2.0

FloridaMan88 08-28-2024 10:19 AM

It is definitely First World problems to fret over a WR7.

Warpaint69 08-28-2024 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FloridaMan88 (Post 17650805)
It is definitely First World problems to fret over a WR7.

Problem is you spent a 2nd for a 3rd year WR7. These guys should be starters and bare minimum productive, he's not productive.

Bl00dyBizkitz 08-28-2024 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17650809)
Problem is you spent a 2nd for a 3rd year WR7. These guys should be starters and bare minimum productive, he's not productive.

Eh, I'd personally say cut bait and get over it.

Veach whiffed on this guy, same with CEH. It happens. Just gotta move on.

JohnnyHammersticks 08-28-2024 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 17649954)
Skyy must have a secret hyphenated name we don’t know about

Skyy Chance-Moore

Skyyvarius Moore-Chances

ToxSocks 08-28-2024 10:46 AM

Moore is on this roster because after 3 seasons, Ross still couldnt figure out where to line up and KT is often injured, aloof air head, which makes him inconsistent.

And if im being fair, Moore looked faster and more twitchy than Remigio.

So here we are.

Bowser 08-28-2024 10:48 AM

Well, he's here, so I'll cheer him on.

Hopefully the switch gets thrown for him mentally and he becomes a reliable option for Mahomes.

RealSNR 08-28-2024 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Warpaint69 (Post 17650809)
Problem is you spent a 2nd for a 3rd year WR7. These guys should be starters and bare minimum productive, he's not productive.


Which gets counterbalanced by all the late round lottery tickets Veach finds.

I’d rather the occasional 2nd round whiff than having a GM who is just completely incapable of finding any quality contributors in the 4th through 7th.

RunKC 10-08-2024 07:20 AM

Only 4 snaps last night. 8 receiving weapons had more.

He’s benched!

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Hell yeah!

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TEX 10-08-2024 07:23 AM

Worthless

Sofa King 10-08-2024 07:23 AM

That's still too many snaps for him.

Bl00dyBizkitz 10-08-2024 07:29 AM

https://media.tenor.com/wjS2sXen8iMA...-up-stongs.gif

Rainbarrel 10-08-2024 07:29 AM

He'd still be better than Edelman at a sports desk

dirk digler 10-08-2024 07:34 AM

I don't understand why is he on the roster at this point as we need contributors. Bring up Remigio and cut Skyy or send him to the practice squad.

RunKC 10-08-2024 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 17735073)
That's still too many snaps for him.

I just checked. They were all at the end of the game when it was over LMAO

Pasta Little Brioni 10-08-2024 07:38 AM

Yes Skyy has been a disaster BUT Can we please stop pining for Remigio? Good lord

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17735086)
Yes Skyy has been a disaster BUT Can we please stop pining for Remigio? Good lord

Nobody is pining for remigio other than it finally ends the skyy experiment. And unlike skyy he can actually return kicks, which would have been useful last night. And because unlike skyy we know you can try the kid out without any emotional attachment. He will have a short leash that probably ends the second we bring in wr help. In other words, there is no downside given that the guy you’re playing in front of him is a road cone on the field and even on the bench.

dirk digler 10-08-2024 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brioni (Post 17735086)
Yes Skyy has been a disaster BUT Can we please stop pining for Remigio? Good lord

I bet he would catch more passes than Skyy which isn't saying alot but Skyy is absolutely a waste of a roster spot.

Bl00dyBizkitz 10-08-2024 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17735085)
I just checked. They were all at the end of the game when it was over LMAO

Victory formation specialist.

dirk digler 10-08-2024 07:48 AM

I read this weekend both Remigio and Ross were getting 1st team snaps. I don't care which one comes up but they need to bring one up and send Skyy on his way.

Rainbarrel 10-08-2024 08:19 AM

The Hollywood injury didn't create the JuJu signing. Like the Pacheco injury created the Hunt signing. Good things can come from bad

Pasta Little Brioni 10-08-2024 08:22 AM

Imagine being worse than Skyy and you get Remeggio

farmerchief 10-08-2024 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17650777)

I guess if you can't produce, you might as well be the most friendly guy and overall good guy to be around. It works in regular life so why wouldn't it work in football.

Then release him and hire him back as morale coach, Moore could be his assistant.

BWillie 10-08-2024 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17735070)
Only 4 snaps last night. 8 receiving weapons had more.

He’s benched!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> snap counts against the Saints on Monday Night Football. <a href="https://t.co/Q3bVWiApbD">pic.twitter.com/Q3bVWiApbD</a></p>&mdash; Nick Jacobs (@Jacobs71) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jacobs71/status/1843564154667639228?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hell yeah!

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This is the key to the season. It was also the key to last season as well.

DJ's left nut 10-08-2024 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16273040)
I know people are going to hate this pick, but they’ll come around to it

Skyy Moore is going to be a good WR.

I promise.

YOUR PROMISES DON'T MEAN SHIT, STAYLOR!

Womble 10-08-2024 09:06 AM

Every week we see Skyy Moore **** up and think 'well that's gonna get him benched'. And yet he's still there every following week finding new ways to **** things up.

The only way we don't see him out there is if he gets a season ending injury. Fingers crossed that happens sometime soon.

Sassy Squatch 10-08-2024 09:07 AM

Nah, he's pretty well done on offense. Although seeing Skyy Moore and Carson Steele as the two return men irrationally angered me. What the **** is that nonsense?

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 09:09 AM

Honestly I am pining for even a ham sandwich to be elevated in place of skyy. Only because it means we will finally stop trying to make skyy Moore happen.

A ham sandwich would not be marched out week after week for 3 years.

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17735242)
Nah, he's pretty well done on offense. Although seeing Skyy Moore and Carson Steele as the two return men irrationally angered me. What the **** is that nonsense?

It’s almost as if there was one guy some of us wanted elevated who could have taken the same meaningless 4 snaps but actually contributed as an experience returner.

Sassy Squatch 10-08-2024 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17735249)
It’s almost as if there was one guy some of us wanted elevated who could have taken the same meaningless 4 snaps but actually contributed as an experience returner.

Good ****ing GOD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE MOORE WITH ANOTHER SCRUB. Holy ****ing shit, what is wrong with some of you?!

You fix the Moore issue by bringing in a receiver with the slightest modicum of talent, not by replacing him with a different smelling hunk of shit

RunKC 10-08-2024 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17735242)
Nah, he's pretty well done on offense. Although seeing Skyy Moore and Carson Steele as the two return men irrationally angered me. What the **** is that nonsense?

What’s wrong with Steele? Actually think he’s done a nice job as a kick returner tbh. Had a return to the 32 last night.

Don’t think he’s had any gaffe’s there so far

Sassy Squatch 10-08-2024 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17735271)
What’s wrong with Steele? Actually think he’s done a nice job as a kick returner tbh. Had a return to the 32 last night.

Don’t think he’s had any gaffe’s there so far

His issues with ball security.

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17735260)
Good ****ing GOD. YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPLACE MOORE WITH ANOTHER SCRUB. Holy ****ing shit, what is wrong with some of you?!

You fix the Moore issue by bringing in a receiver with the slightest modicum of talent, not by replacing him with a different smelling hunk of shit

Nobody said that remigio fixes skyy moore. Nobody.

But until we have a viable option from the outside there is ZERO value with skyy. He is wasting space. There is at least value in remigio because he can return kicks and mecole was questionable going into the game. If skyys role has been reduced to nothing then bring in the guy who does nothing, maybe has a small glimmer of hope for upside, but can actually contribute on special teams while he wastes away on the bench. This is way more about cutting the cord on skyy than it is about thinking Nikko is anything close to a long term solution

Remigio does not stop us from aggressively shopping for a new wr. Unlike skyy the chiefs don’t have any emotional attachment and will both actively seek a replacement and also giving a very short leash. Which is what they should’ve done to skyy years ago

Sassy Squatch 10-08-2024 09:29 AM

There's no ****ing value in Remigio. None. Whatsoever. This team is DESPERATE for help at WR currently. You think they're leaving Remigio on the practice squad for shots and giggles while elevating Jody ****ing Fortson. No, they did that BECAUSE HE ****ING SUCKS AND THEY KNOW IT.

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17735299)
There's no ****ing value in Remigio. None. Whatsoever. This team is DESPERATE for help at WR currently. You think they're leaving Remigio on the practice squad for shots and giggles while elevating Jody ****ing Fortson. No, they did that BECAUSE HE ****ING SUCKS AND THEY KNOW IT.

You literally laughed at the chiefs for tossing skyy and Steele out there on returns. Remigio does have value over skyy because while he rots on the bench he can return kicks for a team that does not have options.

If skyy is relegated to a role of doing nothing then there is no risk. You can’t downgrade a player who we don’t even want to play.

This team is desperate for WR help and yet they are actively keeping a roster spot for a WR who they don’t want to play and is a complete dud on special teams. The core of the problem isn’t that remigio is worse than skyy (he’s not gonna hurt anyone on the bench). It’s that a team desperate for WRs is so emotionally attached to one of their WRs that they not only refuse to cut the cord, they STILL insist on forcing him into roles just so they can get him going. The refusal to elevate remigio over more makes absolutely no sense and most of us can see it is for emotional reasons, not logical ones

dirk digler 10-08-2024 09:44 AM

I actually agree with Zilla on this one. I would rather have Remigio in there for ST then Skyy. Skyy is supposedly the best blocking WR yet he only played 4 snaps, all at the end during the kneel down.

The only thing I can think of why they keep trotting him out there is the almost $2 million dollar cap hit. He is in the top half on the team in that regard.

Otherwise I can't think of a reason why he continues to be active at this point. Really strange.

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 09:45 AM

Also fortson elevation makes perfect sense for a team that has to change its identity to running the ball a shit ton. He is a really good option for 13 personnel. There is zero justification for skyy in this offense. None.

Mecca 10-08-2024 09:47 AM

It's probably just time to admit you ****ed up the 2nd round pick and move on.

Sassy Squatch 10-08-2024 09:47 AM

LMAO Remigio had 3 kickoff returns in the preseason. 2 of them didn't make it to the 30 yard line.

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17735342)
LMAO Remigio had 3 kickoff returns in the preseason. 2 of them didn't make it to the 30 yard line.

He was a returner throughout college. Including punts which are even more difficult. He was a good one but more importantly he is very experienced

Sassy Squatch 10-08-2024 09:54 AM

LMAO He couldn't even cut it against insurance agents and car salesman but by golly, he knew what he was doing while he sucked.

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17735354)
LMAO He couldn't even cut it against insurance agents and car salesman but by golly, he knew what he was doing while he sucked.

This is a really weird hill to die on. He has plenty of credentials as a returner. And skyy literally cannot catch a punt or kickoff. Purely on returns this isn’t even a debate

Sassy Squatch 10-08-2024 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17735360)
This is a really weird hill to die on. He has plenty of credentials as a returner. And skyy literally cannot catch a punt or kickoff. Purely on returns this isn’t even a debate

So is pining for Ross or Remigio.

O.city 10-08-2024 10:00 AM

You don't think Andy and company would have the guy on the field if they thought he was an improvement?

This is dumb

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17735363)
You don't think Andy and company would have the guy on the field if they thought he was an improvement?

This is dumb

You don’t think Andy would have seen that skyy moore isn’t any good before they keep incorporating him into plans and continue to insist that they have big plans for him and he just needs to break out? I love Andy Reid but we know from time to time he makes the decisions based on emotion. There is zero logic whatsoever to skyy being rostered in week 5 let alone this season at all.

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17735362)
So is pining for Ross or Remigio.

Nobody is pining for him. It is literally recognizing that there is one guy who is complete deadweight and another who can at least contribute a single thing. Everyone would be overjoyed if we brought in a new wr and got skyy off there and removed remigio and Ross from not a single person would be hurt if they were scraped from any future plans.

Sassy Squatch 10-08-2024 10:10 AM

He can't contribute though. No matter how many times you repeat the false narrative it isn't going to make it true. He's not an NFL caliber returner.

RunKC 10-08-2024 10:13 AM

Yeah Km with Sassy here. Remigio and Ross aren’t good. They need to go make a trade to replace Skyy, not bring anybody up

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17735377)
He can't contribute though. No matter how many times you repeat the false narrative it isn't going to make it true. He's not an NFL caliber returner.

This is totally ridiculous. Where does this come from? He has done nothing to show that he is incapable except for not having actual game reps, which he had plenty of in college. And he did plenty well in limited PR reps including almost running one for a td in the preseason.

irafreak 10-08-2024 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17735366)
You don’t think Andy would have seen that skyy moore isn’t any good before they keep incorporating him into plans and continue to insist that they have big plans for him and he just needs to break out? I love Andy Reid but we know from time to time he makes the decisions based on emotion. There is zero logic whatsoever to skyy being rostered in week 5 let alone this season at all.

Maybe the cost of replacing your 5th or 6th wide receiver wasn't worth it for a minor upgrade. I don't know but maybe the team just decided to allocate those resources elsewhere instead of cutting skyy, eating the dead money, then paying his replacement on top of that when there weren't good options for the cost, all to improve the absolute basement of the wide receiver room.

Skyy is lousy yes, but to act that andy and veach are morons for keeping the guy that already had salary cap space sunk into him, knows the playbook, and is maybe a good teammate....is some pretty low faith in those two.

They already ate toney's cap but he was also making stupid videos bashing the team and actually turning the ball over to cost us games. Sometimes you just can't fix everything in one off-season.

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17735381)
Yeah Km with Sassy here. Remigio and Ross aren’t good. They need to go make a trade to replace Skyy, not bring anybody up

Yes that is what they need to do. Nobody is on the trade bandwagon more than me. But there is zero rationale for having skyy out there against Nola especially put in a role where he may be asked to return punts despite being a complete liability . This isn’t about remigio being a long term answer. As long as skyy is on the roster it makes zero sense for him to be on above remigio.

dirk digler 10-08-2024 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17735381)
Yeah Km with Sassy here. Remigio and Ross aren’t good. They need to go make a trade to replace Skyy, not bring anybody up

I am good with that but if they aren't going to do that then I would rather see one of the other guys honestly.

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by irafreak (Post 17735395)
Maybe the cost of replacing your 5th or 6th wide receiver wasn't worth it for a minor upgrade. I don't know but maybe the team just decided to allocate those resources elsewhere instead of cutting skyy, eating the dead money, then paying his replacement on top of that when there weren't good options for the cost, all to improve the absolute basement of the wide receiver room.

Skyy is lousy yes, but to act that andy and veach are morons for keeping the guy that already had salary cap space sunk into him, knows the playbook, and is maybe a good teammate....is some pretty low faith in those two.

They already ate toney's cap but he was also making stupid videos bashing the team and actually turning the ball over to cost us games. Sometimes you just can't fix everything in one off-season.

I don’t think it’s low faith that guys who are spectacular at their jobs have some minor faults. They’ve done a brilliant job with this roster. Think most of us would agree that they are way too emotionally invested in skyy. I get not paying for a replacement. We brought in Hollywood and worthy and that might have finally been enough to squeeze skyu out of brown stays healthy.

But now this is no longer a financial decision. We have the in house option to use somebody in his place. Someone who also knows the playbook, doesn’t cost anything and was liked enough to stick around for 2 years. So at this point the decision seems way more emotional than it does logical

DJ's left nut 10-08-2024 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by irafreak (Post 17735395)
Maybe the cost of replacing your 5th or 6th wide receiver wasn't worth it for a minor upgrade. I don't know but maybe the team just decided to allocate those resources elsewhere instead of cutting skyy, eating the dead money, then paying his replacement on top of that when there weren't good options for the cost, all to improve the absolute basement of the wide receiver room.

Skyy is lousy yes, but to act that andy and veach are morons for keeping the guy that already had salary cap space sunk into him, knows the playbook, and is maybe a good teammate....is some pretty low faith in those two.

They already ate toney's cap but he was also making stupid videos bashing the team and actually turning the ball over to cost us games. Sometimes you just can't fix everything in one off-season.

Nobody thinks they're morons - they just think they're wrong.

And ultimately, this idea that you don't want to upgrade your 6th WR slot because it takes effort just runs contrary to everything we've seen from Veach. He's always looking to refresh/replace the bottom of the roster.

And ultimately we just learned that your 5th WR can become your WR3 as quick as a hiccup.

So I hope (and expect) that Veach learned from this. Next year, we won't see any more of these damn charity case roster spots. If you have a guy you don't think you can trust if he moves 2 spots up the depth chart, you shouldn't have him on the roster. The end.

The problem isn't that Moore can't step in and play WR1 if we need him to - nobody expects that. The problem is that we can't trust him to play WR3 now that we've had a couple of injuries. He simply cannot play the position and the team clearly has no interest in asking him to.

That means he never should've been on this roster to begin with. It should've been someone like Noah Brown -- a guy who CAN actually contribute if/when called upon.

Moore clearly ain't that guy.

dirk digler 10-08-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17735451)
Nobody thinks they're morons - they just think they're wrong.

And ultimately, this idea that you don't want to upgrade your 6th WR slot because it takes effort just runs contrary to everything we've seen from Veach. He's always looking to refresh/replace the bottom of the roster.

And ultimately we just learned that your 5th WR can become your WR3 as quick as a hiccup.

So I hope (and expect) that Veach learned from this. Next year, we won't see any more of these damn charity case roster spots. If you have a guy you don't think you can trust if he moves 2 spots up the depth chart, you shouldn't have him on the roster. The end.

The problem isn't that Moore can't step in and play WR1 if we need him to - nobody expects that. The problem is that we can't trust him to play WR3 now that we've had a couple of injuries. He simply cannot play the position and the team clearly has no interest in asking him to.

That means he never should've been on this roster to begin with. It should've been someone like Noah Brown -- a guy who CAN actually contribute if/when called upon.

Moore clearly ain't that guy.

Yep yep. It was pretty telling that when Hollywood got hurt they went out and signed JuJu. They obviously didn't trust Skyy to move up the depth chart.

Then we hear that Veach was pissed when Skyy drops an easy 1st down pass last week and he hardly sees the field after that. I am not saying that Remigio or Ross are world beaters but I bet they could give us more than Skyy could.

I am all for doing what is necessary to upgrade our WR depth I would just love for someone to tell me why Skyy is still active at this point.

chiefzilla1501 10-08-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 17735480)
Yep yep. It was pretty telling that when Hollywood got hurt they went out and signed JuJu. They obviously didn't trust Skyy to move up the depth chart.

Then we hear that Veach was pissed when Skyy drops an easy 1st down pass last week and he hardly sees the field after that. I am not saying that Remigio or Ross are world beaters but I bet they could give us more than Skyy could.

I am all for doing what is necessary to upgrade our WR depth I would just love for someone to tell me why Skyy is still active at this point.

Same here. And while I don’t think remigio is anything special, I also would rather let him sink or swim on the field. He is the only WR on our roster who really hasn’t been given chances. When there is really no risk (the guy he’s replacing is to the point of being a liability) it just feels like there’s nothing to lose from trying.

And of course if we bring in outside help and I hope we do, then relegate him again.

TLO 10-08-2024 11:11 AM

You know it was a good game last night when this is the topic dominating the coversation today

dirk digler 10-08-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17735508)
Same here. And while I don’t think remigio is anything special, I also would rather let him sink or swim on the field. He is the only WR on our roster who really hasn’t been given chances. When there is really no risk (the guy he’s replacing is to the point of being a liability) it just feels like there’s nothing to lose from trying.

And of course if we bring in outside help and I hope we do, then relegate him again.

I am wondering now if it is because of the practice squad call up rules. Since it is so early in the season with an early bye week, they didn't want to waste one. Both Ross and Remigio were getting first team reps this week in practice, so I almost bet that was it.

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Teams can use a "standard elevation" to make as many as two practice squad players available to play in a regular season game without moving them to the active roster. However, the elevation can only be used a maximum of three times on a single player. To make a player available for a fourth regular season game, he would need to be moved to the active roster.

Rainbarrel 10-08-2024 11:22 AM

Skyy's errors must be the devil they know they can withstand. Not a lot of room for errors

chiefzilla1501 12-09-2024 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17735377)
He can't contribute though. No matter how many times you repeat the false narrative it isn't going to make it true. He's not an NFL caliber returner.

Just gonna bump this up here. Remigio proved what we all saw in the preseason. Even if we don't know what we have in a WR he is a solid returner. Its mind boggling that earlier in the year when we were desperate for KR/PR help we asked skyy to return kicks which he predictably was terrible at. We werent willing to give up on skyy because of draft position. Ain't no other way to explain it.

Sassy Squatch 12-09-2024 08:11 AM

Yep, I was wrong. Coaching staff has made some baffling personnel choices on all three units this year

O.city 12-09-2024 08:16 AM

Remigio looked better with the ball in his hands than Sky Moore ever has.

Graystoke 12-09-2024 08:19 AM

Sky who?

chiefzilla1501 12-09-2024 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17850354)
Yep, I was wrong. Coaching staff has made some baffling personnel choices on all three units this year

It makes me wonder if we're doing the same with FAU because I just don't understand healthy scratching Uche

DJ's left nut 12-09-2024 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17850372)
It makes me wonder if we're doing the same with FAU because I just don't understand healthy scratching Uche

Even FAU looked more effective than Danna.

I really don't understand what we're doing there at all. Danna is bringing nothing.

ThaVirus 12-09-2024 09:06 AM

Unfortunately we just extended Danna so he’s going to have a longer leash.

Just have to hope the injuries are affecting his production because he’s legitimately invisible out there.

DJ's left nut 12-09-2024 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17850433)
Unfortunately we just extended Danna so he’s going to have a longer leash.

Just have to hope the injuries are affecting his production because he’s legitimately invisible out there.

And we always rotate him in on 3rd downs as though he's some pass-rush ace.

It's really strange.

Dunerdr 12-09-2024 09:11 AM

I don't understand the Danna 3rd down package. Maybe they just want him in there if CJ wants to go outside? They feel okay about danna at 3 tech on pass downs? And as far as FAU I saw him putting good work in on Slater and crushing the packing into Herpbert twice. I was pleased with that I thought he'd only ever be a speed kind of guy.

RedandGold 12-09-2024 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17850350)
Just gonna bump this up here. Remigio proved what we all saw in the preseason. Even if we don't know what we have in a WR he is a solid returner. Its mind boggling that earlier in the year when we were desperate for KR/PR help we asked skyy to return kicks which he predictably was terrible at. We werent willing to give up on skyy because of draft position. Ain't no other way to explain it.

Remigio is a JAG, and this just confirms what we already knew in that Skyy isn’t even JAG level talent.

Rainbarrel 12-09-2024 09:15 AM

Did Nikko have the game balls. Special teamers need them

Fish 04-10-2025 12:49 PM

[VERY QUESTIONABLE SOURCE]

(But I want it to be true..)

Chiefs Cut Rookie WR After Failing to Meet Expectations

The Kansas City Chiefs have dropped the axe, cutting wide receiver Skyy Moore after three underwhelming seasons, sources confirmed to ESPN on Saturday. The move, a stunner for a 2022 second-round pick once pegged as a Tyreek Hill heir, ends a tenure that never ignited—leaving Chiefs Kingdom buzzing and relieved.

Moore, 24, arrived with hype from Western Michigan, touted for speed and route-running. But the spark never came. In 2024, he mustered just 23 catches for 316 yards and zero touchdowns—his worst stat line yet (ESPN). Across three years, he totaled 43 receptions, 494 yards, and 1 TD, a far cry from the dynamic WR2 Chiefs craved post-Hill trade. Rashee Rice and Xavier Worthy soared; Moore floundered.

“Skyy didn’t meet the bar we set,” GM Brett Veach said curtly. With Marquise Brown re-signed for 2025 and rumors of draft targets like Isaiah Bond, Moore’s roster spot evaporated. His $1.5 million cap hit for 2025 (Spotrac) wasn’t steep, but KC’s patience ran dry after a 40-22 Super Bowl LIX loss to the Eagles exposed offensive gaps.

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